First Time Grower, G13 Feminized

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couple days ago, watered w/ second half (64oz) of that previous gallon. saw no insects.

flowerday 61 today. just watered it down w/ 64oz tap water, 1 tbsp molasses mixed in, adjusted up to 6.5pH. some of the lower buds are getting even more red, darn close to being chop-worthy. upper buds still whiter.

yesterday i did spot 2 more ultra thin almost invisible spiderweb strands near top bud. inspected pretty closely, saw no offenders...

right before i went to water, i noticed dark mold on the bottle i use for watering. it was a 16oz plastic water bottle w/ plastic lid. i had cut 3 round holes in the lid & inserted 1/4"-wide air lines in the lid & had 'em about 6" long, as a way of reaching all areas of dirt easily. the mold was mostly inside the air lines. i had neglected to rinse it clean, & honestly, hardly ever thought to. i know that molasses is sugar, sugar is acidic, acidic is low pH, & mold thrives in low pH. needless to say, scrapped that whole setup, quickly reproduced it w/ new parts, & went on to water the plant. i'm just noting this in case i encounter mold problems w/ plant, but right now everything looks clean.

got about 3 more full size fan leaves dehydrating & getting ready to be pulled. that'll be virtually the last of those bigger/older ones. there might be 1 or 2 like that left on the older/symmetric part of the plant. all the upper/newer/asymmetric/smaller full-size fan leaves are all still full green. numerous smaller/deeper leaves that normally wouldn't droop & dry are drooping & drying, ready to pull too. coz i stopped nutes? dunno.

a couple more bud sites down low are getting white spots just like the most recent pic i posted. fairly sure it's nute toxicity or deficiency, i.e. not bugs, but i'll inspect up-close to be sure. at this late stage in the game, i don't even care to make any adjustments. will keep on keepin' on with water&molasses at roughly 2 tbsp a gallon.

i have a diagram i found online called "When To Harvest" that shows 4 stages of pistils, and that is primarily what i will be using to determine when to remove branches. diagram shows stage 1 - full white pistils, stage 2 - whitish/rusty pistils, 3 - fully red pistils, 4 - dark/shriveling pistils. already, some of the buds are at stage 3 or darn close to it. i think i will chop a few on day 63 (2 more days!) as a trial run, and then probly pull the majority of everything else over the next week

on closer inspection, many leaves throughout the plant are just barely starting to lose their full green-ness. some have spots, some are changing to green/yellow, some have a random "stain" which i dunno what that is, and overall the plant has stopped adding size and might even be losing density, so it's definitely the final cycle of its life coming up. i feel bittersweet about it. i almost have a relationship with the plant, kinda like it's my friend, and sooner than later it'll be gone. too bad i didn't get clones. i just didn't have enough of a setup for that.

pulled off 4 smaller leaves that had dried up

razored off a small bud mini-branch. 3rd one i've pulled so far. got some pics of that. gonna hang it up to dry for a while.

watered w/ 64oz water, 1 tbsp molasses, mid-to-high 6's pH. my pH meter is going crazy again. pulled off half a dozen leaves that had gone dry

i chopped various baby buds & smaller branches near bottom of plant, judging by pistil color, just to see if i can start getting used to a harvest system. i dunno how other people separate useful from useless, but i do it sort of like, any size flower is useful, and if leaves have any trichomes on em at all they're useful. i discard the tips of the leaves where there's no trichomes and most of the stem. gonna leave the useful stuff to dry for a few days & keep an eye out for visual changes etc.

the stuff i chopped today was relatively underdeveloped tiny little buds that never did get much light, but the pistils had maxed out in color so it seemed like the right time. it sort of makes me sad seeing all those mini leaves and all those nodes that never got a chance to mature because there wasn't enough light! maybe i'd be better off letting someone else grow my other 2 seeds... can't decide yet...

watered 64oz, the last 1.5 tbsp of molasses, and didn't even check pH. it's over, man... harvest time!

can't believe it's choppin' down time for my baby. sigh... wow, i feel like a killer, haha. flowerday 65 i think. got 2 smaller colas pulled, trimmed, & hung already. mostly fully red hairs on those. i'll be workin on more harvesting from now on until i have it all done. "colas" is kind of a stretch for these first two. they're basically longish branches with popcorn bud sites. yep once again the problem is - you guessed it - not enough light. the further up you go on the plant, the whiter the pistils, so i'm pulling the bottom first. i'm leaving quite a bit of leaf on the buds. generally if there's any sign whatsoever of trichomes, those sections stay, coz remember, i don't sell weed... i just grew it for myself & friends, and it just so happens i don't mind a little extra leaf on there coz i'm not after "designer" highs... just nice relaxation & pain relief. this is an exciting time but also a bittersweet time.

more later.

14 stumps on the g13 trunk, all on the bottom end, which is now fully bare for about 7". i have 12 branches hung up: 4 from yesterday & 8 more today. plus the test cuts i made the first chopday, that didn't have many buds, that's 14. the 12 hung-up ones range in size from about 10" to almost twice that. several branches still on plant are 2 or more feet long, but they get shorter toward the top like a christmas tree shape, where they're closer to 4" or 6". about 25 more to chop, plus the main stem. hopefully i can be done in a few more days. have not seen any disease or mold yet. there are occasionally spots or stains on leaves that i think are more recent nute probs from flushing but they go into the vegetation jar with everything else that'll be dumped, hopefully outdoors somewhere, i.e. not a dumpster. i'll feed plant w/ some straight tap water tomorrow & keep cutting. i'm done for tonight

watered w/ 64oz tap water. pulled/trimmed/hung 8 more branches including all the biggest ones. only the top third or quarter of the tree remains. possibly will be done harvesting tomorrow or next day.

stop watering

yep no more water

as i'm sittin here manicuring some of the last branches near the top of the stem, it struck me what a fucking gorgeous plant this is. i'm actually crying on and off and i'm sentimental or something, at the realization that i'm killing my good friend. the top of the plant matured beautifully with stiff leaves full of goosebumps and blood red stems, while many of the underside branches were lighter green with less crunch.

anyway hope to be done tonight or early tomorrow with hanging things up...

4 branches first day, 8 2nd day, 8 yesterday, 10 or more today. will have grand total & maybe pics soon

flower day 68. main cola chopped at about 17 1/2". an almost 26" stump remains under the red light. that's just how the sizes worked out. trimmed off a few excess-size leaves & some rusty spots & leaf tips & various other stuff (plus accidentally nipped a bud off main cola) but i'm keepin most of the leaves for smoking, or attempts to make hash.

overall i have 35 branches hung. grand total is 37 i think. the closer you get to the top, the more fractal it gets, so it could've been plus or minus a couple. only tonight did it hit me how much of a growth difference there was between the matured and the undermatured areas. considering just the total length of branching available, i think this *could've* been easily a one-pounder. i'll figure the weight when the time comes but let's say 4oz wild guess for now.

i was thinking how nice it would be if marijuana was legal and you could give a blooming flower or cola to someone you love or to the special person in your life. not even dried up, but fresh straight off a g13 tree. with our fucked up leaders in office, we'll never know... i can still dream though...

and earlier i was reading about how the hole in the ozone layer above the north pole is now as big as the one over antarctica (or vice versa but i doubt it), and instantly the answer came to me... hemp biomass to infuse new oxygen into the atmosphere, to diffuse the ozone depleting pollution we throw up, but once again, shitty leadership equals shitty world

i'll be interested to pull the roots and visually check 'em out just to see if i can learn anything. also, i'm gonna smoke a chunk of main stem to see if there's anything to that.

can't believe it's over. my first plant ever! i'll never forget it. no plan to start another one now. i'm sad / i'm happy / i don't know how to feel tonight

is anyone interested in growing my other 2 g13 seeds? just throwing it out there...

more later

harvest pics probably coming soon, within a day or two i hope

hmm... something insignificant, now, but noteworthy: i just noticed a hole in the dirt! yeah an actual hole, right on the edge, where dirt meets the plastic of the 5 gallon bucket. this has never happened before throughout the grow. first thing that came to mind: ants. i dug it up a little and there were numerous microscopic things walking around in there. not ants, though. much smaller, and their bodies looked like they had one segment, instead of ants that have like about 3 segments. this is weird, because i used to water the dirt about every 2 days and covered every square inch and there was no chance for dirt based insects to gain a foothold. maybe they sensed a weakness lately since i began harvesting the plant from the bottom up? i don't know. i sprayed Don't Bug Me in there just for good measure. tomorrow at some point i need to tear down the grow room, as it's directly in the middle of the main room. having that space back and having a free ceiling fan again will be nice.

supersymmetry said:

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all pics above (14) from 9/15/2011, flower day 51
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all pics above (3) from 9/15/2011, flower day 51
1 - typical wilted full-size fan leaf
2 - bud site with unusual nute burn
3 - zoom-in on crunchy trichomes

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That thing has honestly been flowering for 51 days at the time you took the pictures??? I'm just trying to figure out why its so young looking. I mean, I can't see any maturation of not ONE single pistil, which makes me wonder.

All of my personal growing experience.. all 5 years of it, I can't remember of any grow that I grew.. where I didn't see at LEAST a few pistils that had turned color by day #51 of flowering.

Are you counting the days from when you switched the lights to flowering?? That's the only possible explanation I could think of...

either way, she's looking might fine IMO. Great job man!

peace..

cannabisguru said:

That thing has honestly been flowering for 51 days at the time you took the pictures??? I'm just trying to figure out why its so young looking. I mean, I can't see any maturation of not ONE single pistil, which makes me wonder.

All of my personal growing experience.. all 5 years of it, I can't remember of any grow that I grew.. where I didn't see at LEAST a few pistils that had turned color by day #51 of flowering.

Are you counting the days from when you switched the lights to flowering?? That's the only possible explanation I could think of...

either way, she's looking might fine IMO. Great job man!

peace..

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yeah i think those pics were taken sep 15th. that's 51 days from when i switch to 12/12 light, or (about) 121 days from when the seed came to life (may 17).

here's the main problem, i think: not enough flower power! some things you don't know until you try, and fail, and live & learn. so basically next time i need to have WAY more lights for flowering. this time all i had was a 90-watt UFO LED Illuminator light because i didn't know any better. this light was actually very nice for building vegetation in the first 2 months, especially with the mirrors i was using. the amount of branches is amazing... maybe even more than dr.gruber's. but as soon as it was time to flower, i had a feeling that i might be getting ready to fall way behind, and that's exactly what happened. i hope to grow another seed around february or march, after the dead of winter, and if i do, i will get more lights for flowering

*** i do have more recent pics, but not right now...

ok i haven't updated in forever, because there's not really much going on anymore. here is a small rundown...

- before 9/29 - test pull about 1 or 2 branches to get a "system" going

- 9/29 - pull 4 branches from bottom of plant

- 9/30 - pull 8 branches from mid-bottom of plant

- 10/1 - pull 8 branches from middle of plant

- 10/2 - pull 15 branches from top of plant, including main stem

that's all folks... R.I.P., my first plant ever! code name "Nature". seed #2 = "Peace", seed #3 = "Tolerance". (seeds #2 & #3 are hibernating in my fridge)

anything useful from test branches was smoked fairly early on, uncured. took a long time to burn.

- 10/3 - 10/5, branches hanging in bathtub

next up, i nipped all the useful/smokable buds off the branches and loosely jarred them...

- 10/6 - (+/-2 days) jar about 4 branches (from 9/29)

- 10/9 - (+/-1 day) jar about 8 branches (from 9/30)

- 10/12 - jar about 8 branches (from 10/1)

i've been taste-testing throughout the past several days

- 10/14 - removed rootball from dirt

- 10/14 - there are still 15 branches hanging in my bathtub. maybe i will jar them tomorrow.

observations of final configuration of chopped stem & bucket of dirt... on 10/2, stem was chopped about 26" above dirt line. when i looked at it today 2 weeks later, the top half was covered in white moist mold. i dug in the dirt to tear apart some roots, emptying about a third of the 5 gallon bucket into an empty one. both buckets will be dumped outside soon. there were tiny little bugs all in the upper dirt ... smaller than ants, single body section, unlike ants that have 3. they weren't there when my plant was growing, so i don't care what they are... it's irrelevant now. chopped moldy top half of stem (about a foot) for dumping outside. bottom half of the stem (about a foot) still smells potent. i dug it out along with about a rootball smaller than a fist. cut it in half, into 2 chunks about 6" each, washed 'em down with tap water, and stuck 'em in freezer for future observation and then dumping outside. the roots in the original bucket with 2/3 of the dirt still in it, they seem to be everywhere inside the bucket from top to bottom. it used all the available space.

i don't know if i will do a full "review" and i doubt i will buy a digital scale just to weigh out my stash, but suffice it to say that even the tiniest bud will knock me out for several hours on an empty stomach, and a wild guess is between 2 and 3 dried ounces, which will last me for months.

that's all for now. everyone who helped me along, both on this website and elsewhere, i appreciate your help on my first ever grow!

i will post pics some time soon! ...

it's been a while, but the long & the short of it, is: this was the cleanest smoke I have ever experienced. the pleasance, the connectivity, the mind expansion aspect of this G13 output has never been equaled by another plant I have known, before or since. I got between 2 and 3 ounces of dry product overall, which I think is excellent considering the tiny little LED grow light! I will leave it at this for now. thanks to everyone on rollitup who helped me on this most awesome experience in my life

supersymmetry said:

it's been a while, but the long & the short of it, is: this was the cleanest smoke I have ever experienced. the pleasance, the connectivity, the mind expansion aspect of this G13 output has never been equaled by another plant I have known, before or since. I got between 2 and 3 ounces of dry product overall, which I think is excellent considering the tiny little LED grow light! I will leave it at this for now. thanks to everyone on rollitup who helped me on this most awesome experience in my life

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Glad to hear you had a great experience growing and smoking the G13!!!