First time grower. LED + Hps grow in 4x4 tent

Recommendation is for no more than four plants @ 1 meter/ 3.4 feet tall. I think they said around 30 grams possession in public.... I'm thinking tho with 4 plants and 3 tents anyone could pull off a perpetual harvest and pull at least 1 lbs a month, so yeah the government is clueless..... Clearly they have never heard of scrog as they want to keep the height low to keep yields down but scrog works amazing

Also by keeping plants low and limiting number to four (personal) it prevents the way license producer's grow. Aka sea of green. But the legal producer's stay in the guidelines.

Tha5d awesome man hell yeah
We don't have size restrictions in oregon s9 you can go as big as you want

Update: end of week 2 of flowering and everything seems to be going pretty good! My gorilla glue #4 Is showing some weird symptoms though. The outside edges of the leaves are slightly curling inward. Also the curled parts have white texture to them. The leaves that shows these characteristics feel waxy almost. Tempts are stable at 75-80 degrees. Humidity is 50-60%. Not sure what's going on. None of the other 3 plants show any of these symptoms. Gorilla glue still looks healthy for the most part and still have some decent sized buds starting! Here are some pics! The quicksand kush is doimg amazing. Almost wish i had done all 4 quicksand kush. I just purchased a blueberry kush cut so hopefully next batch I want to do 2 quicksand kush. And 2 blueberry kushes. I'll try to get pictures of the gorilla glue . But for reference. The grape ape is in back left corner. Og ghost train haze is back rigjt corner. Quicksand kush is front right corner and gorilla glue #4 Is front left corner

So here are the pics. I also noticed some of the buds have much much shorter pistols. And upon closer inspection, there are even some hairs that are orangush redish.....huh??. Only thing I can think of is i had my humidifier on the floor underneath the canopy. Noe the grape ape is showing same signs. And it's on the same side as humidifier as well. I'll try removing it and just using bowls of water instead. Wonder of constant cool moisture being fanned up underneath them is whats causing ot

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So here are the pics. I also noticed some of the buds have much much shorter pistols. And upon closer inspection, there are even some hairs that are orangush redish.....huh??. Only thing I can think of is i had my humidifier on the floor underneath the canopy. Noe the grape ape is showing same signs. And it's on the same side as humidifier as well. I'll try removing it and just using bowls of water instead. Wonder of constant cool moisture being fanned up underneath them is whats causing otView attachment 3996172 View attachment 3996173 View attachment 3996174

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A few pistols changing color is alright, it may even be because of the strain, but at this stage lots pistols turning color is usually a nutrient problem.

I think it actually may be related to heat stress . I noticed i had my thermometer on the floor of the tent which is probably the coolest part. After setting it at canopy level I saw temps rose to 86-87 degrees. So i turned my cfls off and temps are about 82 now which should help. I have plenty of circulation. I think I'm goimg to ease back on the nutes and just do bio bud , ca mag and botanicare raw sweet

You see those white specks on the leaves? I hope it not mites....i can wipe them off the leaf no problem but wonder what you think ...

Also o Checked under neath leaves. They look perfectly fine. And I don't see any webs anywhere what so ever. I sprayed straight neem oil the other night. Should I only spray on underside of leaves?

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Also o Checked under neath leaves. They look perfectly fine. And I don't see any webs anywhere what so ever. I sprayed straight neem oil the other night. Should I only spray on underside of leaves?

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I think you got mites from those pics you posted, neem oil aint gonna do shit against those it's more of a deterrent. Good luck.

Aren't white spots from mites caused by bite marks. Meaning the white spots wouldnt be able to be wiped away? Because if I take my thumb and put some moisture on it and wipe the leaf. The spots disappear

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Aren't white spots from mites caused by bite marks. Meaning the white spots wouldnt be able to be wiped away? Because if I take my thumb and put some moisture on it and wipe the leaf. The spots disappear

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Get some mother f**king diatomaceous earth asap buddy....if you don't know what it is or does read the link... It's more for prevention but will kill most bugs within 48 hrs of contact. It's a dust so top dress and if in veg u can spread on plant leaves lightly. It's a wiki link couldn't find a good one on riu https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diatomaceous_earth

I was considering of getting those no pest strips. Setting it up in tent during 12 hours of lights off and turn off exhaust fan. I've heard it will kill damn near everything . I cut off alot of infected plant for gorilla glue and grape apeNot happy about it. But havent seen any damage on my other two. I may just cut my scrog screen and pull my plants outside and rinse them and then bug bomb my tent

Here some pictures of small branches I cut due to how unhealthy they looked. I have another gorilla glue clone im veg I can throw into flower in a week or two of this one goes to shit. I still didn't find a single mite. Or egg or any noticable bite marks on the undersides of leaves. I sprayed neem oil and insecticide soap last night. Fuckers are frustrating. I'm always good about working in tent in just my underwear so I don't being mites in. Mesh screen over intake. Always wash my hands before going into garden. I did find out that my ph was pretty high only on the 2 plants that seem to be having issues. I flushed e
With straight water ph6.0. Finally brought it down to acceptable range of 6.5-7 ph. Hoping when I get home tonight thinhs look a little better

All I gotta say is fuuuuuuuuck.....haha. so after researching im 99% positive its not spider mites.....I wish it was lol. symptoms match up to russet mites! For fucks sake lol. they don't leave webs or bitemarks. Just lay eggs and suck the life out of my plants. So im pulling the grape ape and gorilla glue out and leaving them outside. If they die. fuck it. Im going to vaccum and then bleach the floors and walls of my grow tent. Then I will be placing a no pest strip inside the tent sealed off. Then bug bomb the room my tent sits in to kill anything outside the tent. My quicksand kush and og ghost train haze may be salvageable. If not, well....I geuss I cut my losses and start over. Frustrating but now I know I need to be even more careful when tending to the garden. I still have my outdoor plants to harvest atleast. will keep yall updated

Verify it for sure, you can get a microscope on Amazon for like 40$.

I brought the two sick plants outside to finish off. There new growth looks much healthier. The two I left in the tent don't show any symptoms. I bleached and vaccumed inside of tent.also will be buying ladybugs after work today. Buds on the quicksand kush are looking really good for being only 16 days into flowering! Sugar leaves are getting pretty sticky!

Coming up on the end of week 3 of flower. Unfortunately the 2 infected plants I took out the tent aren't doin much. Granted they havent been getting any worse outside. But there definetly im shock and not doing much growth wise. The two left in the tent seem to still be going strong. I've got a x30-x60 jewlers loupe now so I can inspect regularly for mites. Here's some pics!

So not sure if anyone is still followi ng this thread but I'm curious about something. So...out of the 4 plants i started out with in the tent. The two plants that became infected woth russet mites both had fairly large branches broke off about 2 weeks before flipping into flower. The other two never had a branch break and both seem to still not show any signs of russet mites. Question is, does a stressed plant become more susceptible to pests and mites vs healthy thriving plant ?

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So not sure if anyone is still followi ng this thread but I'm curious about something. So...out of the 4 plants i started out with in the tent. The two plants that became infected woth russet mites both had fairly large branches broke off about 2 weeks before flipping into flower. The other two never had a branch break and both seem to still not show any signs of russet mites. Question is, does a stressed plant become more susceptible to pests and mites vs healthy thriving plant ?

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If when you say stressed plant you mean unhealthy plant then yes, it is natures way of removing the weakest and sickest genetics, sick plants are tastier to bugs. This allows the healthy plants near the sick plants to finish flowering while the sick plants get devoured.