Floralicious Plus And Liquid Karma

lilroach

lilroach

Well-Known Member
I'm an odd bird as I use Happy Frog and Jack's Bloom Booster (10-30-20) from beginning to finish. I've been doing this for six years and have healthy plants from beginning to end.

Here's a video of my grow from several years ago growing as I described above:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=66Wr4BRTeY8

As you can see, I did OK with this soil/nute set-up.

Then......last May or June I decided to add F+ to my feed. Since then my plants are turning brown around the 5-6th week in flower. To me it makes no sense why this is happening, and I only am just now pointing to F+ as the possible culprit since it's the only added variable from my normal growing style.

Even though I've been growing for some time now, I do not profess to be an expert, or even an above-average grower. I just stumbled on a consistent way of growing nice plants and am caught by surprise F+ may have a negative affect on my plants. If someone here can share how and why F+ is doing something funky with my grow, I'd appreciate it.

NOTE: I stopped using F+ a few weeks ago, and so far no new browning has been going on. It's too soon to say F+ is responsible though.
 
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The pipe chap

New Member
xtsho said:
Just more worthless bottles of watered down stuff anyone can buy and mix themselves. $20 for a 1 liter bottle of kelp tea? No thanks.
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Its much more then just "kelp" tea, i think you are thinking of florablend and its 35$ cad for 3.79L i have a bottle with the price tag from last month i fined it cheap but yeah mixing tea is fine but the person who started this topic seems to be new at this so mixing tea in correct strength can be overwhelming and 35$ is not much sell 4 clones to a acmpr holding buddy and its much more worth your time to just buy it imo unless you are 100% organic and have some experience i suggest just to buy it. I mean you guys have "well knowen member" to me you should figure hey this guy is new i can suggest to make tea in the future but for now florablend and floraliciuos plus are amazing even for me still i use tea in my greenhouse i wont give up my secret but it involves bat guano and one animals poop that is amazing and from my own farm so i even know whats going into the animal also kelp but local kelp i gather as store shit is sprayed for pests and bacteria after they dry it so if you want true organic it takes work and time to acucumulate the stuff needed to mainline it
 
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Kaydeejay#1st

Member
panhead said:
The average grower will see zero benifit from either product,there is alot more to getting results from additives than reading manufacturer instructions & just dosing the plant with higher ppm.

If you are not able to tailor the npk ratios as the plants needs change beyond reading the lable,then feeding X fertilizer durring veg & Y fertilizer durring bud with standard nutes than realisticly additives such as floraliscous will add nothing to overall plant vigor,or harvest weights.

Btw brother,ive been growing soil over 20 years & hydroponics for allmost 5 years now so i consider myself a well versed grower,but on the odd occasion i need help with my grows i ask the 2 best growers i know on this site,one is my hydro mentor Albfuct & the other is the man you flipped off,if homebrewer gave you advice you can take that shit to the bank as 100% fact,also fyi homebrewer has spent countless hours experimenting with & testing many additives,including the ones you asked about,he even goes out of his way to doccument the tests & letting the membership here benifit from seeing the results 1st hand.

Your a newb here so try n show some respect & not start shittin on our members, especially our best educated members,thanks.
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Good afternoon, I'm Kevin a first time grower in the most true sense of the word.
New tent: 2x4x5
New lights: 2 - Mars Hydro 600w LEDS
everything new... lol
I'm pretty smart
I learn fast
I'm off to a good start...
But I need help...
I was wondering if you would Mentor me as I learn and get better? I'm asking because of the way you handled the exchange with the noob and Homebrew... well done i might add.
But ... i just don't want to grow " weed at home" I want to become a " Microgrower"
But I need help.. will you..

Not going to be weird, but I just needed to have someone to go to and not feel like I'm being a bother ... someone to remind me to check my PH no matter how lazy I get lo lo l. I won't get lazy though.. lol
Someone who can help me cut through all the maze of information that is out there ( I know that I have to learn by making mistakes but ... i want to kinda limit them... will ya be my mentor
I'm 50
Married
Male
Michigan
???
 
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Kaydeejay#1st

Member
Kaydeejay#1st said:
Good afternoon, I'm Kevin a first time grower in the most true sense of the word.
New tent: 2x4x5
New lights: 2 - Mars Hydro 600w LEDS
everything new... lol
I'm pretty smart
I learn fast
I'm off to a good start...
But I need help...
I was wondering if you would Mentor me as I learn and get better? I'm asking because of the way you handled the exchange with the noob and Homebrew... well done i might add.
But ... i just don't want to grow " weed at home" I want to become a " Microgrower"
But I need help.. will you..

Not going to be weird, but I just needed to have someone to go to and not feel like I'm being a bother ... someone to remind me to check my PH no matter how lazy I get lo lo l. I won't get lazy though.. lol
Someone who can help me cut through all the maze of information that is out there ( I know that I have to learn by making mistakes but ... i want to kinda limit them... will ya be my mentor
I'm 50
Married
Male
Michigan
???
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Here are a few stats:

*Tent 2x4x5 (good quality)

*Lights: 2 - MARS HYDRO 600w (good coverage) + 3 sets of small supplimental 40w red/ blue leds

Ventilation: 4" ducting w/ strong inline fan
1 tall vertical fan ... a humidifier... and ... thats it. Lol

Medium: Hydroponics (3 - 5 GALS DWC /w bubblers)

Right now as this email comes to you, I have 3 ladies... 2 cream Cookie Autos... and 1 Pineapple Photo.

Nutes: Primary.. GH 3 part flora series + koolbloom
Botanicare cal-mag
Botanicare silica
Botanicare hydroguard
(Im think all of this will be retired when the new release of MEGA crop comes out )
 
J

jnacci

Member
panhead said:
The average grower will see zero benifit from either product,there is alot more to getting results from additives than reading manufacturer instructions & just dosing the plant with higher ppm.

If you are not able to tailor the npk ratios as the plants needs change beyond reading the lable,then feeding X fertilizer durring veg & Y fertilizer durring bud with standard nutes than realisticly additives such as floraliscous will add nothing to overall plant vigor,or harvest weights.

Btw brother,ive been growing soil over 20 years & hydroponics for allmost 5 years now so i consider myself a well versed grower,but on the odd occasion i need help with my grows i ask the 2 best growers i know on this site,one is my hydro mentor Albfuct & the other is the man you flipped off,if homebrewer gave you advice you can take that shit to the bank as 100% fact,also fyi homebrewer has spent countless hours experimenting with & testing many additives,including the ones you asked about,he even goes out of his way to doccument the tests & letting the membership here benifit from seeing the results 1st hand.

Your a newb here so try n show some respect & not start shittin on our members, especially our best educated members,thanks.
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You’re the man and handled this really well!!
 
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nOname_james

Member
I like running Floralicious Bloom 1-1-1 at half strength in veg and flower. I prefer this over Floralicious Plus and LK. Half strength FB gives you twice as much humic as Liquid Karma does at the recommended rate.and it is a balanced npk ratio.

Floralicious Bloom has all the same goodies (vitamins, aminos, trace minerals, carbs) minus the animal products that are in Liquid Karma. Floralicious Bloom is simply protein hydrolysate and kelp,.with 1% humic. It is a few more $ a bottle but you feed it at half the rate. Works great as a foliar spray too. A lot cleaner than other kelp products on the market.

I would also recommend to anyone looking for an "enzyme" product or beneficial microbe product to look into SLF-100. Main ingredient is 4 strains of bacteria @ 1.2 billion cfu per ml. Way more concentrated than recommended feeding of Hydroguard, at just 1ml.
 
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