FlowaMasta's Methodology @ How to Grow Monster pound plants!!! ( Jack H X Skunk )

EasyPound

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Flow I hope you have small hands or I am gonna have to redefine my hero list :) Seriously though man, looks good-BUT never had a doubt! Looking at the title of this thread. difference between bragging and producing results and sir you did produce! bongsmilie Congrats my online friend!
 

flowamasta

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The drip rings are shit, better to drill 1/4" or 1/2" (Convert to metric yourself meh! :)) To your liking in my experience. I think hes talking bout Dj shorts strain FLO... I had one back in the day that I was gifted. I had heard really intresting things like great and unpredictable color changes and a super Psychedelic high plus was told that she preffered to be multi harvested, like that every few weeks you could pluck off a substantial amount of buds and she would repay you with more flowers in a few weeks time. This is not what I found at all. Either that, or my phenotype was a bit anti social cause no matter what I did to her (The whole garden could be happy as tits and she would be having a temper tantrum ) I found the yeild and quality to not be worth the effort I was devoting to her, the color changes lack luster. Honestly when it came time to multiharvest her I culled her and put her directly into a slow cooker with a couple # of butter.-S0uP
Thanx Soup :) all feeding fine now, got some nice burnt tips, and she's going to have to recover from the stress of tearing some roots from the smaller tub. A 600 HPS is also alot more output than a 11 watt fluro lol but best to throw in the deep end in my books, to get her immunity up and strong fast!

Sometimes the pickier strains can often be the best, Temperature and Climate in general can mean the difference in average and top shelf provided you have plenty of fresh air also. Some will just want to throw pollen sacks out trying to reproduce so it hopefully can seed elsewhere in a better environment. These strains from experience have often been top notch grade, strange when you think about it!

Cheers Mate ! .. that's sum serious chit Mon. Great run .. now let's see it SCROG'd ! :fire:
lol :) not far away! got so many things happening at the moment :p

do you ph solution at normal 5.5 ish area or? sorry if u already mentioned this stuff, are you using organic or? my buddy always used g h with good results and I had good results with general organics, only difference was somehow he had his ppms up to 1700 on established clones but had to flush often, I never go past 1000 ppms but never "flush" with less than 500 ppms and still don't get burns just explosive growth. Curious but I guess the organic gh stuff though smelly isn't as easy to burn with for sure
- what are you feeding with?
I would actually say ' the normal ' ph range for hydro nowadays is around 5.8-6.0. But no i don't usually ph adjust, except for week 3 vegging with cyco's XL booster. but if things are out of whack and im lost, i will check the ph level. 6 is better suited in my opinion as more available nutrients are at the ready, and less chances of locking out the essential nitrogen and magnesium, which are the most common deficiencies.
I usually use Cycoflowers pro-kits. Minus their zyme and uptake. Explosive growth from 2nd week onwards. Freakishly fast growth LOL!

Flowa, you sir are the epitome of someone with pure quality growing skills hey, i didnt think you could get much better but god damn you have! Damn fine work as always and this strain looks amazing, just looking at that resin nearly makes me stoned hahaha. Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge and the truly unbelievable bud porn! I would love to see an article written on you and your method because it just bloody works so well! Hats off to your sir :D
Maaaaate!!! Thats an awesome compliment! i love your compassion and with that you will grow great ganja! :)

You're most welcome! may the ganja gods always be with you :blsmoke:

Flow I hope you have small hands or I am gonna have to redefine my hero list :) Seriously though man, looks good-BUT never had a doubt! Looking at the title of this thread. difference between bragging and producing results and sir you did produce! bongsmilie Congrats my online friend!
lol im nearly 6 foot :) thankyou kindly! i hadn't realized until now that my title sounds big-headed! my intentions are merely to entice the everyday newbie or even the odd grower out there having issues looking to try something easy and reliable.. AND AFFORDABLE! this really is a no fail system, i haven't had a mess up yet, touch wood. I try to say, if u can buy weed, then its worth cuttin back to save pennies in order to setup :) 3 weeks vegging and a hlf lb? no need for maths there at todays prices.

Have to agree man, he walks the walk and talks the talk hey :D
lol thankgod i'm only 1s an 0s on a computer............ hehe
 

Chipper Pig

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Bloody nice numbers with that Amtserdam Gold mate:clap: Cant wait to see round 2, with a some of your lovely training methods I am sure you will be pushing the pound!!!
Not sure if you have used those water rings before mate, but from my experience with them is their little water holes block up very easily. I still find them great though and may drill mine out a wee bit on the next run.

Cheers Chipper

That bud your holding is a monster. Great pic;)
 

Oo S0uP oO

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Bloody nice numbers with that Amtserdam Gold mate:clap: Cant wait to see round 2, with a some of your lovely training methods I am sure you will be pushing the pound!!!
Not sure if you have used those water rings before mate, but from my experience with them is their little water holes block up very easily. I still find them great though and may drill mine out a wee bit on the next run.

Cheers Chipper

That bud your holding is a monster. Great pic;)
Running a small amount of dextrose should also aid in the combustion of salts I usually run 1tbl/liter for weekly flush but dont know the amount to use in a continuous recirc any thoughts???-S0uP
 

flowamasta

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Bloody nice numbers with that Amtserdam Gold mate:clap: Cant wait to see round 2, with a some of your lovely training methods I am sure you will be pushing the pound!!!
Not sure if you have used those water rings before mate, but from my experience with them is their little water holes block up very easily. I still find them great though and may drill mine out a wee bit on the next run.

Cheers Chipper

That bud your holding is a monster. Great pic;)
thanx mate! i did scrape some holes out with some scissors ;)

Actually that 'bud' i'm holding is a bunch of curing buds that stuck together lol, its very sticky stuff, mrs Flowa thought it was worth a snap ;) after an hour or so they fall apart and begin to dry more. Still a careful process only to let them fall apart as if you were to pull them apart it would damage trichs. It did pass my mind that someone may think that though lol

Running a small amount of dextrose should also aid in the combustion of salts I usually run 1tbl/liter for weekly flush but dont know the amount to use in a continuous recirc any thoughts???-S0uP
i dont recommend dextrose in a recirc at it could cause slime and maybe breakdown essential salts, i think dextrose might like organics more so... thing is with dextrose is its like glucose, and it binds to salts and can render them useless. Something to do with the ph level. I think the ring got blocked with tiny bits of hydro clay and perlite. Sorted now though :)
 
Hey flow,
Missed a bit of your action from the past few months, but looks like your doing great. I am now following in your footsteps, having changed one of my systems to the hemp bucket. Watched my rdwc system side by side for only a week and ripped out the rdwc. The health of my hempy plant was so drastically noticeable I was sold.
Ps if you feel your ears burning don't worry, it's just me saying to friends- this dude on the Internet...
 

Oo S0uP oO

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i dont recommend dextrose in a recirc at it could cause slime and maybe breakdown essential salts, i think dextrose might like organics more so... thing is with dextrose is its like glucose, and it binds to salts and can render them useless. Something to do with the ph level. I think the ring got blocked with tiny bits of hydro clay and perlite. Sorted now though :)

It works wonders on my flush sessions, I have never run it continuously but thanks for explaining why its not a good idea to do so. Do you or any body else know what the working ingredient is in drip clean? I would like to make some of that for cheap, Ive heard really good things. Thanks for settin me straight bout the dex, I guess it would in a sense be like adding carbs or molasses to a sterile res and sure to feed the bad guys and give you slime:( Glad everything worked out with the ring! How long before she gets put in the main tent?-S0uP
 

flowamasta

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Hey flow,
Missed a bit of your action from the past few months, but looks like your doing great. I am now following in your footsteps, having changed one of my systems to the hemp bucket. Watched my rdwc system side by side for only a week and ripped out the rdwc. The health of my hempy plant was so drastically noticeable I was sold.
Ps if you feel your ears burning don't worry, it's just me saying to friends- this dude on the Internet...
good to see you back! great to hear also on your new method of growing ;)

It works wonders on my flush sessions, I have never run it continuously but thanks for explaining why its not a good idea to do so. Do you or any body else know what the working ingredient is in drip clean? I would like to make some of that for cheap, Ive heard really good things. Thanks for settin me straight bout the dex, I guess it would in a sense be like adding carbs or molasses to a sterile res and sure to feed the bad guys and give you slime:( Glad everything worked out with the ring! How long before she gets put in the main tent?-S0uP
ahh, flush sessions, i get you now. Drip clean is basically the same as flora-kleen, very hard to find ALL the active ingredients even on the msds site. BUT there is a little garden secret..... But i'm not good at keeping them. Obviously. So... I think the key to 'flushing' the excess salts is to change the molecular form surrounding the root zone. Putting it simply, going from a nitrogen rich zone to a phosphorous and potassium rich zone, the phosphorous will increase girth and help fatten the flowers ( calyxs ) and the potassium ripens and finishes things off. As far as my experience goes anyway ;) It's the Nitrogen you MOSTLY don't want, which gives the dark green in leaves, but its ok to have some! (Nitrogen rich buds are often harsh or hotter to smoke.) More importantly though Phos & Pot help salts break down and when you give the plant an excess of this to its maximum availability it will try to finish. Too much and she may want to seed but get it JUST right and you get the point... Phosphorous and potassium are flushed from a perlite system VERY easily, i've see the results, tasted, tested so i say rule of thumb if you get the right change over points with the nutrient path ie: going from nitrogen rich ( for vegging ) then to a potassium for flowering the plant, then you want the flowers to get fat right? so we goto phosphorous, this is the magic i like to say :) so (swell) if in cycos schedule.

sorry for the long reply, but i think there's some info in there useful to a few perhaps, the active ingredients are PHOSPHORIC ACID (same as your ph up) or already formulated WITH added bonusses ( SWELL from cyco ) and potassium oxide.... sounds very similar to your ph up doesn't it now .... sodium HYDROXIDE, but its actually POTASSIUM HYDROXIDE which is NOT primarily taken up by a plant, BUT aids in cleaning roots of salt. There you go :)

This is basic plant horticulture for most soft cell plants.

EDIT : oh yeah, shes in the tent already :) getting burnt tips and all :p and i'm calm as chong and my inspection is tomorrow. I love life, and weed helps with that so much!! i get a bit of a rush now, i think its nerves but i set things up so it looks inconspicuous and the next day comes along :)
 

lordjin

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I can't believe all this. You know waaaay more about growing than me. You should have your own blog.
 

flowamasta

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I can't believe all this. You know waaaay more about growing than me. You should have your own blog.
I don't know about that Lordjin!!?? You subconsciously know inside out what you're doing in your garden :p you know what the plants want, when they want. You're product speaks for itself in photographs. I wish i were so lucky to sample even your lower popcorn! let alone your primo frost cakes!! A blog... a little too much attention perhaps! people know where to find me ;)

Like this stuff?
http://mbferts.com/Potassium-Hydroxide-KOH_c88.htm

Check this out if you have a chance.....thats a whole lotta swell in that box!-S0uP

http://mbferts.com/Haifa-Mono-Potassium-Phosphate-MKP-Soluble-Fertilizer-1-Pound-535.htm
Good stuff, thats VERY expensive for what it is, there are much more affordable sources. Even bunnings now stock pure form nutrients. Very high grade. But you have to use caution and use gloves, because slot of these become dangerous only when wet.

That's an excellent idea lordjin :D would make for one very perfectly detailed blog too!!
lol i shouldn't :p
 

Oo S0uP oO

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Good stuff, thats VERY expensive for what it is, there are much more affordable sources. Even bunnings now stock pure form nutrients. Very high grade. But you have to use caution and use gloves, because slot of these become dangerous only when wet.
5.00$ EXPENSIVE??!?......I thought I was thrifty??? ;)-S0uP
 

flowamasta

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5.00$ EXPENSIVE??!?......I thought I was thrifty??? ;)-S0uP
that is only 500 grams roughly... not going to make much soluble food with that much. ;) $ 20 bux should get you a 25kg bag. There are some that you just can'r get without a chemical license, like pure phos acid... probably used for making other substances.... I know i wouldn't buy anything like that off the net. Customs will likely get you investigated. :(
 

Oo S0uP oO

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that is only 500 grams roughly... not going to make much soluble food with that much. ;) $ 20 bux should get you a 25kg bag. There are some that you just can'r get without a chemical license, like pure phos acid... probably used for making other substances.... I know i wouldn't buy anything like that off the net. Customs will likely get you investigated. :(
Agreed, Phosphates = BOMBS and while half the people smart enough to turn raw material into something destructive are smart enough to not, the other half make the nightly news. Neither one of us need to be confused for the latter by our respective governments right? ;)-S0uP

Edit; Im thinking you might only need 2-3 grams a week for our size reservoir though...food for thought
 

lordjin

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You're a walking encyclopedia. What you really need to do is sit down with an editor and write a book. I think you're giving away too much on Rollitup. They don't pay you.
 

eastcoastmo

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But he does it for the love of it man, if he wrote a book he'd go all commercial on us lol. I would definitely buy the book though, id probably buy them all just so no one else had it :lol:
 
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