For All Cap Ebb and Grow Users
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doogleef
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www.htgsupply.com has good prices on valueline fans.
Correct, lumens don't add. If you have 2 flashlights and put the beams together they don't get any brighter. Penetration! Ladies like it deep
Correct, lumens don't add. If you have 2 flashlights and put the beams together they don't get any brighter. Penetration! Ladies like it deep
morrisgreenberg
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i was just gonna say, i got mine from HTG, rock solid for 2 yrs now....as for light penetration i totally agree, but i used to run 1000's and at 12 inches away i would get bleeching, at the same time i did get longer spear shaped colas, now i'm into stout baseballs, i guess to each his own since i do an extreme prune job before flower, i basically lollipop each side branch till theres about 8inches left
shnkrmn
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www.htgsupply.com has good prices on valueline fans.
Correct, lumens don't add. If you have 2 flashlights and put the beams together they don't get any brighter. Penetration! Ladies like it deep
Wow. I never noticed that cheap fan at HTG. CAN and vortex fans are nearly twice as expensive. Are the cheap ones reasonably quiet?
morrisgreenberg
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Al B Fuct did the lumens meter test and i believe he even tried flashlights and cfls
morrisgreenberg
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not at all, they are like jet engines....strapped onto larger jet engines....they sell $25 fan speed controllers that help bigtime
morrisgreenberg
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you get what u pay for with the vortex, thats quiet operation and you got a good warrentee right? i think my fan has 1yr. anyhows for $190 from HTG you get the fan/filter combo...but for anything larger than a closet that filter does not work well
shnkrmn
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Yup, the Vortex has a ten year warranty and it is real quiet. I like that. I guess I'll just spend the dough on a 6 inch vortex. Ah well, don't have to worry about that now. My grow room is 63 degrees.
I just got 2 6inch Wind Tunnel fans which are reasonably price and are not too loud at all. Im gonna throw a speed controller to make them even quieter. I have gl145 tent and my exhaust fan sucks the hell out of the tent. Lots of negative pressure. Another plus is that the housing is all plastic. Its light. I have one hanging with the filter and the other is to cool my 1000w light. That fan is on top of the tent. Im happier with them than I expected.
Question Ebb & Gro users who are using tents. Do you keep your controller bucket inside or outside the tent?
cannabistro
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THe pics I see mostly have the controller inside. How noisy is the ebb and gro 12?
cannabistro
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Whoops, my last quest was already answered, my short term memory is affected, I wonder why?.... lol
smokingrubber
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Since you're talking about fans and such, here's a good tip... adjusted for a 4x4 tent.
1. Buy a reasonable size fan to run the light exhaust. (150+ cfm)
2. Buy an oversized fan to handle the primary exhaust through the carbon filter. (400+ cfm)
3. Buy a variable speed thermostat controller http://aeroponicsnmore.com/climate-...an-speed-control-variable-idle-setpoint-p-181
That way, the lights are run seperate and you can put them on a timer or a temp trigger. They're seperate though. The primary exhaust will run at your set idle speed (100-180 cfm) when the temps are normal. If your temeratures gets above your set number, the fan kicks up higher to get the temps down automatically. The controller is about $140 but thats cheaper than an AC.
The controller is very quiet. A couple clicks now and then. The controller is inside the tent because the feed lines to the pots all have to be run along the flat ground. Any hump in the line will dam up the flow. Raising the buckets 1" off the ground helps negate this problem also.
The only real sound comes from the bucket. When the system is filling there is a small dribble from the syphon break. As loud as a good leak from about a foot above the water. When the system is draining it will sound like a waterfall unless you put a piece of curled up hose on the inside nipple. Direct the hose toward the barrel wall so that it's peeing on the wall instead of pissing in the middle of the barrel.
EDIT: Be sure the curled hose isn't long enough to reach down to the filled water level. That would cause a backward syphon.
morrisgreenberg
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you know i was recently racking my brain to choose another nutrient company, then i realize botanicare PBP is the SHIT! i just hate the liquid karma so i only use it for the first rez after x-plant. all you need is PBP and cal-mag and if your a baller like me you use sweet for energy boost, throughout my whole career i always had deficiencies and burns, i recently tried a rez of BC nutes and quickly learned how good PBP is. when i first chose PBP i looked at ingredients, nice seabird guanoa kelps fish/bone meals and extra chemical ferts, this is not 100% organic...then the non plant ingredients put this product over the top, you have raw cane sugar, silica and humic acid .....these are 3 seperate bottle you would have to buy if using another brand. so what it can get a little messy and stinky and you might never get your hosing fully cleaned, the plants love it
morrisgreenberg
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Cal-mag plus is made by botanicare, but many others make a calmag supplement for thier own lines, its usually a 2-0-0 so the extra nitrogen boost is great for all phases, especially if in flowering, using bloom nutes and you see some early yellowing, you can run calmag at full strength and sort that out, it also has iron in it. most people who run R/O systems need to use cal-mag or they will go deficient. GreenT, we had a pretty large discussion about pot numbers, go back a few pages in this thread, if you thumb thru this thread you will have every single question answered
doogleef
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PBP would be SO much better if it had some Mg in the base nute. It pisses me off to be forced into buying additives to make a complete feed.
Dynagro makes nice complete nutes.
I used lucas for a long time. It works ok. I got the occasional nitrogen and micro def so watch for that and up the N accordingly.
Dynagro makes nice complete nutes.
I used lucas for a long time. It works ok. I got the occasional nitrogen and micro def so watch for that and up the N accordingly.
morrisgreenberg
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i been blessed with good big city tap water(40ppm) and even before i tried PBP i always had cal-mag in the arsenal. one thing i used to stress to people that always complained about yellow leaves falling off during the first 2 weeks of flower was to use veg nutes until 3 weeks flowering for the plants still need that nitro, but you can start feeding flower nutes the day of the flip with added calmag. all too often noobs would change to bloom nutes to early and go thru dead yellow leaves, this kills the yield. one other thing in hydroponics thats overlooked is iron deficiencies, hydro growers rely on magdrive pumps, people who run chillers have to have an extra pump on 24/7, over time without the use of cal-mag the iron falls out
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