For All Cap Ebb and Grow Users

i thought all my fellow E&G growers would like this bit of info.

http://www.greners.com/hydroponics/systems/ebb-flow.html

they sell separate inner and outer buckets. this is nice because I'm going to pick up a few extra outer buckets for two reasons.
#1 ever tried to take a plant out of your room or move it away from the rest to inspect it? there issue is you cant sit it down! now with a extra outer bucket i can set it anywhere.
#2 far fetch but I've heard of people ripping the outer bucket when putting the hose on. i obviously didn't do this but if i ever have to replace a bucket and do rip it I'll have a replacement.

at $4 ea it's worth it to pick up 2 just to have IMO.

Are these still available??? I can't find them.
 

GHOPZZ

Well-Known Member
can you grow big plants in the ebb and grow system ? they come with only 2 gallon buckets?? do you just veg yes time?? how big can the plants get in the buckets? can you change them to 5 gallon buckets?? is it possible to customize this system?
 

boxing119

Active Member
Please help me with some advice, so i woke up this morning at 9 am and my lights are supposed to go off at 6 am. somehow my fucking timer got messed up and didnt shut shit down. i am in the flower stage and just not really sure what to do now, are my plants fucked for yeilds or what should it do.. i could figure out a way for the lights to stay off till 9? but would that even make a difference? how much will the plants react to this mistake?
 

smokingrubber

Well-Known Member
3 hrs isn't that bad. Its a little stressful, but at least it wasn't longer. Now the bad part is: youre gonna have to get up at 6 every day and double-check the lights!
 

xceptional

Active Member
Are these still available??? I can't find them.

lol i just went to the link and i can not find them either! crazy thing is they were just there like a week ago and have been there for sale for months. i would give them a call i'm about to call because i want a few and had not ordered them yet!
 

shnkrmn

Well-Known Member
It's doubtful they will react at all to one episode of prolonged light. Just make sure they get 12 hours of dark. And replace your timer or figure out why it failed or you will have a repeat.
 

boxing119

Active Member
thanks for the help guys and yeah definitely going to get some new timers, should i change my water cycle so they don't get watered or should i keep that the same and than go back to 6pm on and 6 am off OR should i now make it off at 9am offand on at 9pm because thats what its going to do tonight because thats the only way it will get 12 hrs dark cycle?
 

morrisgreenberg

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boxing you run 1000 watters right? i forget how many you have, but if you use the hydro times i know they are shitty and some are just defective
 

boxing119

Active Member
yeah i am running 2x1000w it was my fault that it had messed up i guess we had lost power and it just needed to be rest. i figured i would just switch the light cycle to 9pm on and 9am off so they could get the full 12 hrs of darkness. the ballast im running is Xtrasun, if thats what you were referring to, thanks for all the help
 

cooley150

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I have 24 clones that are now showing roots out of the bottom of the 3in rock wool cubes. I have now transferred them into my Ebb & Grow system. I am starting them out on 1/4 strength nutes for the first week and then bump it up to 1/2 the second week. How often should I feed them? They're on 18/6 light cycle and currently I'm feeding 3 times a day. Once at 6am(when the lights turn on) again at noon and the 3rd time at 6pm. Lights turn off at midnight. Is this a good schedule??? Should I be feeding at night??? Seems too me like my rock wool cubes are really wet all the time. Oh and I have a 1000 watt light (The "Ocho") about 3 feet above the plants. The light DOES NOT get hot at all with the fan cooling the lights. Temp in the room stays at a constant 75 degrees 45-50% humidity..
I have 3 different strains...Purple Kush, AK-47, and Blue Cheese.
 

morrisgreenberg

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cooley everything sounds just right, so far you have a feeding taking place every 6 hours, try to put a piece of poly over your cubes, if they are always wet expect to see some algae groeth on them. i would wait for some roots to grow to the bottom of the pots to change the floods to every 3-4hours and bump up in nutrients
 

cooley150

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cooley everything sounds just right, so far you have a feeding taking place every 6 hours, try to put a piece of poly over your cubes, if they are always wet expect to see some algae groeth on them. i would wait for some roots to grow to the bottom of the pots to change the floods to every 3-4hours and bump up in nutrients

Thank you very much for the info.
 

xceptional

Active Member
anyone running tomato cages on their buckets? i'm planning on going to buy 30 tomato cages tomorrow and zip tie them to the lip of the top buckets. anyone had any expierence with this? my plants can not hold theirself up and to tie them up is a pain in the ass. also with the cages going from wider to narrow i think i can do some sick ass lst work on the outside of these cages ?!?!?!?
 

shnkrmn

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anyone running tomato cages on their buckets? i'm planning on going to buy 30 tomato cages tomorrow and zip tie them to the lip of the top buckets. anyone had any expierence with this? my plants can not hold theirself up and to tie them up is a pain in the ass. also with the cages going from wider to narrow i think i can do some sick ass lst work on the outside of these cages ?!?!?!?
dagambler is using sections of no-climb fencing rolled into cylinders and stuck in the top on his buckets. Looks like they work pretty good. Seems to me that regular tomato cages get wider as they go up so they would create a lot of shade down below. Maybe if you could use them upsidedown?
 

morrisgreenberg

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tomato cages are the way to go, forget trellis systems and nets, the cages allow you to keep your pots independant. used as you would normally do will not cause any shading, they are thin wire! sick LST work can be done, like spiral limbs along the outside of the cage or traditional tie down, you can pick up at garden shops rolls of twist tie string, very cheap and makes things easy. i love to fold the center cola down and tie her to train to go on the outside while trying to get some outer colas into the center. definitly increases production
 

L.A.RAIDER

Member
Has anyone besides me had a problem with the controller bucket malfunctioning ???
I have had 2 now and both have had the same problem. made by C.A.P.
My first controller bucket worked perfect for about 2 and a half months and about
10 or so days befor harvest I went in to check on my girls and noticed they had not
drained after there first watering cycle. they just sat there soaking for hours. NOT GOOD.

I unpluged the controller bucket and that seemed to get them to start draing back to the resivor
and then I ralized I would have to get up evey 4 hors to maually drain these lil bitches every 4 hours
until I harvest and can brake down the system and get it replaced by warantee. Which they did no problem.

But now after all that crap my new controller bucket is doing the same thing just 3 weeks in. sonofabitch,

I talked to the guys about it at the corp. offices and basicly they have tried a few diffrent things to fix the
problem but odviously its not working. but they will keep replacing them for me. well thats swell but
braking this thing down is not fun or easy when you got 12 fat biches in your way and now you got
nutriant soluton everywhere.
When its time to drain back to the res the light clicks to drain cycle and I hear it click but it doesnt start draing
until I either unplug it and plug it back in or spin the timer around and that can get it to drain also.
But what a pain in the ass.

What I dont understand is how I have had both of my controller buckets have the same problem
and the company is more than aware of the problem there having with there controller buckets.
But NOT 1 of you on this post have said 1 thing about having this problem or any other problem
with this contoller bucket.
Have any of you had this problem or heard of this happening to anyone else ?




















 

redduke

Member
I have had similar issues but the problem is not with the controller it is with the pumps getting air locked. I make sure everytime I clean res or start new to stand by for the first cycle of watering to make sure it cycles. Many times the system has flooded and not ebbed. I will actually use my mouth to blow or suck from one end or the other to assure the pumps prime and start. Once I know the system is effectively cycling it will work for week/s until I clean again. I hope this helps.
redduke.


Has anyone besides me had a problem with the controller bucket malfunctioning ???
I have had 2 now and both have had the same problem. made by C.A.P.
My first controller bucket worked perfect for about 2 and a half months and about
10 or so days befor harvest I went in to check on my girls and noticed they had not
drained after there first watering cycle. they just sat there soaking for hours. NOT GOOD.

I unpluged the controller bucket and that seemed to get them to start draing back to the resivor
and then I ralized I would have to get up evey 4 hors to maually drain these lil bitches every 4 hours
until I harvest and can brake down the system and get it replaced by warantee. Which they did no problem.

But now after all that crap my new controller bucket is doing the same thing just 3 weeks in. sonofabitch,

I talked to the guys about it at the corp. offices and basicly they have tried a few diffrent things to fix the
problem but odviously its not working. but they will keep replacing them for me. well thats swell but
braking this thing down is not fun or easy when you got 12 fat biches in your way and now you got
nutriant soluton everywhere.
When its time to drain back to the res the light clicks to drain cycle and I hear it click but it doesnt start draing
until I either unplug it and plug it back in or spin the timer around and that can get it to drain also.
But what a pain in the ass.

What I dont understand is how I have had both of my controller buckets have the same problem
and the company is more than aware of the problem there having with there controller buckets.
But NOT 1 of you on this post have said 1 thing about having this problem or any other problem
with this contoller bucket.
Have any of you had this problem or heard of this happening to anyone else ?




















 
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