For Child's Eyes Only

I don't start many threads only due to the fact that most fail miserably, but I had to start a fresh one for this subject material, in hopes that this doesn't fall by the wayside, I would like to ask that you chime in on how you feel about this.

Do you feel this is effective?
Do you feel this is just a gimmick?

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ehhh idk...sucks that kids are afraid to speak up. for that matter, it sucks that adults are afraid to speak up. i don't think kids will see it and understand it in the short amount of time he/she is walking by it. why do they have to hide the message from adults? i'm gonna say it's a gimmick. i mean it's not like the back of a milk container

I personally like the idea.
And if it rescues even one child from the horror of that existence then it has served it purpose.

MojoRison said:

I don't start many threads only due to the fact that most fail miserably, but I had to start a fresh one for this subject material, in hopes that this doesn't fall by the wayside, I would like to ask that you chime in on how you feel about this.

Do you feel this is effective?
Do you feel this just a gimmick?

[video=youtube_share;6zoCDyQSH0o]http://youtu.be/6zoCDyQSH0o[/video]

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big brother, thought police

god knows that children do not need to be abused but most children i know think a stern lecture is abuse . . . .

save a child . . . . .um do you know what cps does . . . . .they dont save they destroy and create a revolving door system of abuse and resentment . . . .

want to save a child, have a conversation with one once and a while and dont expect them to know right and wrong like an adult, but listen and pay attention

thats how you save a child, treat them as if you care, not some random advertisement like a cigarette ad

great idea, but totally 1984 status and imho not a means to an end at any rate

omfg i have tears in my eyes.........

so beautiful

I like the concept, for use in THIS type of situation. However, once it's mainstream it'll be mostly McDonalds ads. That's a shame.

Samwell Seed Well said:

great idea, but totally 1984 status and imho not a means to an end at any rate

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if it saves 1 child id be happy

Samwell Seed Well said:

big brother, thought police

god knows that children do not need to be abused but most children i know think a stern lecture is abuse . . . .

save a child . . . . .um do you know what cps does . . . . .they dont save they destroy and create a revolving door system of abuse and resentment . . . .

want to save a child, have a conversation with one once and a while and dont expect them to know right and wrong like an adult, but listen and pay attention

thats how you save a child, treat them as if you care, not some random advertisement like a cigarette ad

great idea, but totally 1984 status and imho not a means to an end at any rate

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uhhhh ok...seems to have struck a nerve, i don't think it's meant to be THE solution but some other way to reach our most vulnerable citizens Sam and that can't be a bad thing

I don't really understand how that could be effective. I mean, to me it looks like they are only focusing on abuse that leaves marks. Wouldn't a teacher or neighbor be able to notice those marks?

I agree that if it saves only one child it is worth it. It takes courage for a child to report abuse and that's what most of them can never gain due to the emotional abuse that accompanies the physical. The add does draw attention to the subject though. This might make other people more aware of the issues and recognize signs of abuse in children they are in contact with. I don't believe it would be harmful unless is the concept was used for marketing as Quetz suggested.

Flaming Pie said:

I don't really understand how that could be effective. I mean, to me it looks like they are only focusing on abuse that leaves marks. Wouldn't a teacher or neighbor be able to notice those marks?

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it takes away responsibility of the adults, who are mature and knowledgable, and puts it squarly onthe shoulders of the children who are already in a bad situoion

not only do they get abused but they have to deal with the guilt of sending there parents to jail, if you have any idea of how victim sof abuse work it is often hard to confront and understand as a child ....imho its adutls responsibilty to look out for kids, not the kids responsibility

imho this idea takes away 100% from the responsibility of every person here to be an active and positive role model for the youth in their lives, families and neighborhoods

and CPS breaks up familes corrently for all sorts of BS to to rely on the system that is currently influencing social environments where kids get abused(circle of abuse kids grow up abused and then get marginalized and trivialized by a bureaucratic system, kids are like sponges as soon as they realize that the punishment of adults comes first to helping of the child they get resentful aka prisoners of the US judicial system get treated way better then kids foster care)

Samwell Seed Well said:

it takes away responsibility of the adults, who are mature and knowledgable, and puts it squarly onthe shoulders of the children who are already in a bad situoion

not only do they get abused but they have to deal with the guilt of sending there parents to jail , if you have any idea of how victim sof abuse work it is often hard to confront and understand as a child ....imho its adutls responsibilty to look out for kids, not the kids responsibility

imho this idea takes away 100% from the responsibility of every person here to be an active and positive role model for the youth in their lives, families and neighborhoods

and CPS breaks up familes corrently for all sorts of BS to to rely on the system that is currently influencing social environments where kids get abused(circle of abuse kids grow up abused and then get marginalized and trivialized by a bureaucratic system, kids are like sponges as soon as they realize that the punishment of adults comes first to helping of the child they get resentful aka prisoners of the US judicial system get treated way better then kids foster care)

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I think instead of putting the responsibility on the childs shoulders, it tells the child there is help out there, and someone can help you. I was an abused child by my fathers wife , and I think that had I seen an ad like that back then I wouldve called and no i wouldve not felt guilty for sending her to jail or for telling somone. However I never seen any ad's like that, but my father did put me in martial arts and I sure the fuck kicked her ass when I was 12 when she decided to start up her shit with me. I got in a lot of trouble but she never touched me again.
I think aside from the horrible horror stories of CPS (at least in my country cannot account for others) CPS is able to determine who is just getting a quick bum smack and who is actually abusing their children. Here AT LEAST they do throughout work to find out / view and advise to make sure they are not "tearing" apart families or putting people away for a kid who got pissed off he wasnt allowed to have cookies after dinner and called CPS.

Furthermore I know about a lot of teenage/young mothers in this city, I'd say 90% of them had their kids taken away not because of abuse but because the moms lived in crack houses, cared about parting and doing drugs over their children, and because they could not properly care for their children with clean clothes , good shelter, food, water, ect

the first thing i thought is what happens when people start hiding...... less politically correct messages in signs that only children will notice.... i imagine this is only the stage 2 of selective advertising, use it for benevolent purposes first to gain public trust, then apply to other purposes.

but then again i am always cynical when it comes to humans.....

Thank you for the replies.

I'm still on the fence with this one to honest, I agree with all here who've spoken.

The Pros as stated: It can help those who have no other way of getting help and it's a step forward {though a small one} in bringing this subject more attention.

The Cons as stated: It can lead to other subversive ads targeted at the youth, and the responsibility for such a thing is given to those who don't know how to use this knowledge correctly.

Children's trust is inexplicably linked to their love of a parent/s and if that parent/s is an abuser then the point being put forth by Samwell is a very poignant one.

I dont get why it needs to be hidden from adults? Wouldnt it be better if both adults and children can see it?

millie said:

I dont get why it needs to be hidden from adults? Wouldnt it be better if both adults and children can see it?

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the point I believe is if the child is with the abuser then the abuser doesn't realize the child is getting a message for help

really is a tough issue ,

obviously the sign would help,

but what problems would the actions of the signs over time have, state foster systems are messed up, more oftenthen not kids victims of abuse are not in situations where famiuly will take care of them say if one or both parents are jailed, or family option are just as bad, these kids end up in foster care, and or wards of the state, look that up before you think a tough life is worse them state jails for kids due to insubordination and or ripple effects of abuse(not uncommon to a child of abused that is swept under the carpet in a state run foster system)

idk . . tough one

Kite High said:

the point I believe is if the child is with the abuser then the abuser doesn't realize the child is getting a message for help

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I still think it would be more affective if adults can see it too. In child abuse cases it is the responsibility of other adults to help the child not the child him/herself. If they really want to decrease child abuse they need to put pressure on the government to increase child protective laws. That means advertising needs to be focused at adults too because at the end of the day they are the ones who are capable of substantial change.

millie said:

I still think it would be more affective if adults can see it too. In child abuse cases it is the responsibility of other adults to help the child not the child him/herself. If they really want to decrease child abuse they need to put pressure on the government to increase child protective laws. That means advertising needs to be focused at adults too because at the end of the day they are the ones who are capable of substantial change.

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i would imagine than if the adult seen it, they would beat the child and hover over the phone to make sure the child doesnt call for help. any other concerned adult for the child can easily pick up a phone book and know what number to call

millie said:

I dont get why it needs to be hidden from adults? Wouldnt it be better if both adults and children can see it?

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best response yet!