For Mammath: VEG your plants!
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aknight3
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I do however think that NO veg period such as 12/12 from seed can influence the sex of regular seeds, (produce males), and may influence hermie action in fem' seeds.
i also agree with this statement, 12 and 12 from seed is not only unnatural for marijuana but i could definitley see potential stress occuring during the veg period
i also agree with this statement, 12 and 12 from seed is not only unnatural for marijuana but i could definitley see potential stress occuring during the veg period
svchop889
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unless of course it was something that originated near the equator where the longest natural photo period would be 13hrs
Blue Moonshine1
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i just had to hermies and im pissed i had three feminized seeds, one is doing lovely as you can see in my album, any way i had to transplant one twice and the other one kept getting the leaves plucked... (not my doing) and those two hermied..... i feel the stress caused by the transplants and ignorant leave plucking made them herm..... so with that i think any thing stress full can cause herms, not every time but i would think it would increase the chances for sure.... i deserve rep just cause two of three of my KaliMist seeds hermed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Shit Fuck!
Blue Moonshine1
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man there are so many good points.... this is like fuckin politics..... we could go back and forth for ever!!!!!!!!!
svchop889
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there is also the debate that feminized seeds are increasing the amount of herms considering genetically they are either xxx or xxy and when that happens in humans it produces a retard, i personally dont like fem seeds yes they are convenient but there also possinly detrimental to our favorite plant so i plaed with you dont try to breed feminized plants unless you enjoy getting more herms than Chernobyl Russia
svchop889
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politic is all bad points mostly bull i dont like government thoughman there are so many good points.... this is like fuckin politics..... we could go back and forth for ever!!!!!!!!!
theloadeddragon
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interesting you brought it up....... the different stresses causing hermies..... could that be an acclimatization issue in regards to their different natural climates and having different tolerances to different forces of nature i.e. wind, water, earth, fire/heat?? and then mixing the differing strains with the dominant traits passing into the next generation producing stronger plants, or plants with specific weaknesses and strengths at least.... for example larger yield but less mold resistant (South African x Himalayan)...... and then the different reactions to the stresses chlorosis vs nechrosis vs hermie
svchop889
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that and also would recessive traits resurface if introduced to a different environment?
Mammath
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Wow this is a great discussion.
Not really like politics because we all have the same agenda, we don't want hermies! lol
I understand what your saying though moonshine.
Consider it a board meeting or community pow wow so to speak.
Let me also make mention that I think even a true female will naturally throw out at least one male flower during her life because of her weed background.
She will always try to reproduce, period.
I don't consider this scenario to be in the hermie league we are discussing here.
Most of us will never notice that one flower other than the odd seed we find in a our smoke.
One male flower does not signify the plant is hermie.
Feel free to comment about this.
I'm sure there's one seed co, that I can't remember at the moment, induces male flowers by letting the plant go past it's used by date.
This is of course the method they use to produce female seeds.
This is where MJ's natural 'weed like' reproductive tendencies play a part and are exploited wisely.
What this says is that it's not the 12/12 from seed that causes hermies it's the stress of it.
Stress, stress, stress.
I also think a plant with it's heritage around that latitude would not suffer the stress of 12/12 from seed and do well grown in that way.
Like moonshine mentioned with the way he got hermies from the plants in his plot that had undergone some form of stress.
Stress is paramount, therefore a good environment is also.
But will the perfect environment ensure hermie free females?
Or does it not matter the environment if you have shit genetics or a breed not suited to such conditions?
How long does it take through crossing, and breeding, to change the 'happy photo period' that out of a hybrid?
Is this why some seed companies have more stable strains, because they've been around longer?
Not really like politics because we all have the same agenda, we don't want hermies! lol
I understand what your saying though moonshine.
Consider it a board meeting or community pow wow so to speak.
Let me also make mention that I think even a true female will naturally throw out at least one male flower during her life because of her weed background.
She will always try to reproduce, period.
I don't consider this scenario to be in the hermie league we are discussing here.
Most of us will never notice that one flower other than the odd seed we find in a our smoke.
One male flower does not signify the plant is hermie.
Feel free to comment about this.
I'm sure there's one seed co, that I can't remember at the moment, induces male flowers by letting the plant go past it's used by date.
This is of course the method they use to produce female seeds.
This is where MJ's natural 'weed like' reproductive tendencies play a part and are exploited wisely.
Classic statements fellaz.
What this says is that it's not the 12/12 from seed that causes hermies it's the stress of it.
Stress, stress, stress.
I also think a plant with it's heritage around that latitude would not suffer the stress of 12/12 from seed and do well grown in that way.
Like moonshine mentioned with the way he got hermies from the plants in his plot that had undergone some form of stress.
Stress is paramount, therefore a good environment is also.
But will the perfect environment ensure hermie free females?
Or does it not matter the environment if you have shit genetics or a breed not suited to such conditions?
How long does it take through crossing, and breeding, to change the 'happy photo period' that out of a hybrid?
Is this why some seed companies have more stable strains, because they've been around longer?
Mammath
Well-Known Member
Yeah absolutely.
It's something that needs to be taken into consideration.
So how long does it take to stabilize and breed that out of a strain by crossing it?
Is it possible?
greenfirekilla420
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ya wouldn't that be nice.
