7xstall
Well-Known Member
Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
The Bill of Rights
Clearly, the aim of this first Amendment, even the symbolic positioning of this Amendment above all others, envelopes a crucial part of the vision the Founders had for this country. Expression. Acknowledgment. Worship. These are a few of the things which fueled so many to abandon Europe with it's various networks of restriction, or endorsement, of what people can and can not think, believe, want, say and even feel. Those who braved the crossing of the Atlantic found that liberty here, in America, and they helped build the greatest nation to ever exist. Liberty is the greatest catalyst for human innovation and the design of our country was meant to foster and create liberty for all.
What do we do when this liberty is accessed by those who preach violence and hate?
When is the fire of liberty out of control?
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=325_1174980110
In the U.K. we witnessed a sort of train wreck in slow motion regarding the way islamic mosques of hate were "protected" by the government. Their message of murder, violence and hate was ignored, which is in essence a quiet nod of 'yes, carry on' from the government. Look what it got them. In Germany, just the other day, a judge ruled that an islamic woman could not divorce her husband for beating her because the koran prescribes this treatment of women. The woman was a muslim and therefore she subjected herself to this lifestyle voluntarily and the state has no grounds to trespass upon her right to be "just a woman" as it should be according to proper islam. France has bowed to the muslims. Australia has been very "polite" in regards to the way muslims have been viciously attacking people on the street. Why does the world, as a whole, have this obligation to pretend that islam is anything more than a political system with religious attributes?
Let's define religion according to Webster's Dictionary:
religion
1 a : the state of a religious <a nun in her 20th year of religion> b (1) : the service and worship of God or the supernatural (2) : commitment or devotion to religious faith or observance
2 : a personal set or institutionalized system of religious attitudes, beliefs, and practices
3 archaic : scrupulous conformity : CONSCIENTIOUSNESS
4 : a cause, principle, or system of beliefs held to with ardor and faith
Does islam even fall into this definition? As I understand it, this definition does not include prescribed violence and killing of people, am I missing something?
Should liberty be so contorted and so perverted as to consider the methodical destruction of civilization a "religion"?
I for one believe that islam is not a religion, it is a cauldron of hate, a vehicle for the slightly charismatic to deliver the very desperate into fields of dying for no purpose other than to consolidate the world for exploitation; inefficient and totalitarian exploitation at that (as evidenced by the islamic states).
Does this "religion" deserve our liberty? We are sacrificing our liberty by allowing the practitioners of islam to continue under the guise of religion rather than labeling it for what it is. We tread so soft but what does Amendment I say to you?
.
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
The Bill of Rights
Clearly, the aim of this first Amendment, even the symbolic positioning of this Amendment above all others, envelopes a crucial part of the vision the Founders had for this country. Expression. Acknowledgment. Worship. These are a few of the things which fueled so many to abandon Europe with it's various networks of restriction, or endorsement, of what people can and can not think, believe, want, say and even feel. Those who braved the crossing of the Atlantic found that liberty here, in America, and they helped build the greatest nation to ever exist. Liberty is the greatest catalyst for human innovation and the design of our country was meant to foster and create liberty for all.
What do we do when this liberty is accessed by those who preach violence and hate?
When is the fire of liberty out of control?
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=325_1174980110
In the U.K. we witnessed a sort of train wreck in slow motion regarding the way islamic mosques of hate were "protected" by the government. Their message of murder, violence and hate was ignored, which is in essence a quiet nod of 'yes, carry on' from the government. Look what it got them. In Germany, just the other day, a judge ruled that an islamic woman could not divorce her husband for beating her because the koran prescribes this treatment of women. The woman was a muslim and therefore she subjected herself to this lifestyle voluntarily and the state has no grounds to trespass upon her right to be "just a woman" as it should be according to proper islam. France has bowed to the muslims. Australia has been very "polite" in regards to the way muslims have been viciously attacking people on the street. Why does the world, as a whole, have this obligation to pretend that islam is anything more than a political system with religious attributes?
Let's define religion according to Webster's Dictionary:
religion
1 a : the state of a religious <a nun in her 20th year of religion> b (1) : the service and worship of God or the supernatural (2) : commitment or devotion to religious faith or observance
2 : a personal set or institutionalized system of religious attitudes, beliefs, and practices
3 archaic : scrupulous conformity : CONSCIENTIOUSNESS
4 : a cause, principle, or system of beliefs held to with ardor and faith
Does islam even fall into this definition? As I understand it, this definition does not include prescribed violence and killing of people, am I missing something?
Should liberty be so contorted and so perverted as to consider the methodical destruction of civilization a "religion"?
I for one believe that islam is not a religion, it is a cauldron of hate, a vehicle for the slightly charismatic to deliver the very desperate into fields of dying for no purpose other than to consolidate the world for exploitation; inefficient and totalitarian exploitation at that (as evidenced by the islamic states).
Does this "religion" deserve our liberty? We are sacrificing our liberty by allowing the practitioners of islam to continue under the guise of religion rather than labeling it for what it is. We tread so soft but what does Amendment I say to you?
.