freedom of thought, which amendment protects that?

burgertime2010 said:

I am not familiar with Occams Razor

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DNAprotection said:

well i didnt read the summation at the link below, but to me its always kinda meant look for the simplest answers especially when things seem the most complicated:
http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/General/occam.html

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burgertime2010 said:

The simple way? Good advice....I always make complicated what does not need to be.

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burgertime2010 said:

start at the end? define goals, motives, major issues? describe yourself?

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DNAprotection said:

i would actually start with 'gravity' itself and that whether we fully understand it or not we can presumably all agree that such exists...
from there i would prolly skip to the human law of 3's (if you will)
3 minutes with no air and your in trouble...
3 days with no water and your in trouble...
3 weeks without food and your in trouble...
and im guessing we can mostly all agree on that...
then i might prematurely skip to this poll:
https://www.rollitup.org/politics/773992-your-personal-view-possessing-seeds.html
and suggest that we maybe need to look in that direction next etc...

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burgertime2010 said:

no Captchas or corpsgov for me. I don't know my rights.

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burgertime2010 said:

The simple way? Good advice....I always make complicated what does not need to be.

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canndo said:

Occams Razor

Means that when looking for an answer, to a question, the simplest answer is most often the more correct one. In other words, if you see your toast laying on the ground and your dog looking at you, it could be that the dog did something to cause the toast to fall off the table, or it could be that aliens came down, wondered what the toast was, and finally put it on the ground as an experiment.

While the second could be accurate, Occam's razor has one tend to pick the first explaination. it has nothing to do with "making" something more or less complicated.

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burgertime2010 said:

I understand and will keep it simple if possible

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burgertime2010 said:

In the poll it made me type in a code and said something that my feelings about this issue could be acted upon by corpsgov? Just going to avoid it and assume you know where I stand. I am disabled and medically I feel it is too safe and effective to remain illegal

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canndo said:

Occams Razor

Means that when looking for an answer, to a question, the simplest answer is most often the more correct one. In other words, if you see your toast laying on the ground and your dog looking at you, it could be that the dog did something to cause the toast to fall off the table, or it could be that aliens came down, wondered what the toast was, and finally put it on the ground as an experiment.

While the second could be accurate, Occam's razor has one tend to pick the first explaination. it has nothing to do with "making" something more or less complicated.

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DNAprotection said:

sorry if i implied that in my notion of what it means because its not what i meant...i was trying to say that for me the 'razor' part has worked especially well for cutting to the root of whatever circumstance i have faced that appears very complicated etc...

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burgertime2010 said:

It was unusual and fishy so fuck it. You know where I stand.

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canndo said:

I don't think so actually.

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DNAprotection said:

ok well heres one idea...
we take a poll question like that and transform it into a civil suit for permanent injunctive relief based on simple logic connected to the 9th amendment that anyone can understand.
obviously theres more to explain about that, but the whole thing would necessarily be as simply stated as possible etc...
at least 9 plaintiffs from coast to coast and north to south etc filing such 'human rights' cases simultaneously would surely at least make the news and have the possible effect of changing the framework of the national 'debate' etc and at best someone wins at the district court level and 'we' move on to the appeals process etc but all the while changing the public question from 'should we legalize weed or not' to a fundamental question that effects all humans and that the 'cannabis laws' afford us the standing to ask...
ps...such standing basically evaporates as soon as feds pass new laws to grant whatever they deem to be 'reasonable' access to the plant etc

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DNAprotection said:

ok well heres one idea...
we take a poll question like that and transform it into a civil suit for permanent injunctive relief based on simple logic connected to the 9th amendment that anyone can understand.
obviously theres more to explain about that, but the whole thing would necessarily be as simply stated as possible etc...
at least 9 plaintiffs from coast to coast and north to south etc filing such 'human rights' cases simultaneously would surely at least make the news and have the possible effect of changing the framework of the national 'debate' etc and at best someone wins at the district court level and 'we' move on to the appeals process etc but all the while changing the public question from 'should we legalize weed or not' to a fundamental question that effects all humans and that the 'cannabis laws' afford us the standing to ask...
ps...such standing basically evaporates as soon as feds pass new laws to grant whatever they deem to be 'reasonable' access to the plant etc

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