burgertime2010
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One mind is easier to close in on, it could be advantageous this way....luck of the draw plays more into it.
freedom of thought, which amendment protects that?
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burgertime2010
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We defend for the most part so if anything we kept you out of jail.i come from a family of immigrants and defendants (sicilian), lawyers have been putting my folks in prison etc for 80-90 years now...they had a field day during alcohol prohibition and of course have continued the tradition with growing plants etc...
my folks (sicilians) are world renowned gardeners and wine makers...
DNAprotection
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lol i appreciate your folks and the sentiment, but im sorry to say your folks must have been assigned to other cases because my folks usually got the shaft...
courts were quite bought and paid for in those days and judges had to play along whether they wanted to$ or not because they were simply killed otherwise...
(i could tell you some personal family stories in that respect that might shock you)
imo we are fortunate in that even though today its still 'the corpsgovs court', much of the 'corruption' of yore has been removed...though it has been replaced with more systemic 'corruption' from the top down etc...but the good news is that the court room is more reachable now for opps like we are discussing then they ever were before...
courts were quite bought and paid for in those days and judges had to play along whether they wanted to$ or not because they were simply killed otherwise...
(i could tell you some personal family stories in that respect that might shock you)
imo we are fortunate in that even though today its still 'the corpsgovs court', much of the 'corruption' of yore has been removed...though it has been replaced with more systemic 'corruption' from the top down etc...but the good news is that the court room is more reachable now for opps like we are discussing then they ever were before...
burgertime2010
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We were still in Europe, I am a 1st generation American.
DNAprotection
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back then it was local 'gangsters' that bought the courts and my family tried to (for the most part) stay clear of to much involvement with the 'families', but everyone knew each other and when 'fall guys' were needed, such usually came from families like mine in effort to protect the 'wise guys' of the ruling 'families' etc...
you can be thankful you missed all that
burgertime2010
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I am thankful that my grandparents escaped from Auchwitczback then it was local 'gangsters' that bought the courts and my family tried to (for the most part) stay clear of to much involvement with the 'families', but everyone knew each other and when 'fall guys' were needed, such usually came from families like mine in effort to protect the 'wise guys' of the ruling 'families' etc...
you can be thankful you missed all that
DNAprotection
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my polish side was lucky to escape such fates as well...and now here we are because of them living, i hope we can live up to the gift of that responsibility...
burgertime2010
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This is the academy as well as the consciousness defense council...you are welcome to join.
burgertime2010
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Read the Taboo Topics Thread.
DNAprotection
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i wrote this today with something old and something new, something borrowed and something blue...it took less than a half hour to put this together so no doubt it needs improvement, so i was hoping some here might help in that respect or just give an opinion in general because i'm considering an effort to get this or something similar on the ballot as a measure to be voted on in my california county
When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for people to reaffirm and reestablish the fundamental human rights that they are endowed, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's origins entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of humankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to come forward in reestablishment.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all humans are created equal, that they are naturally endowed with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to re-declare and reestablish the inherent human rights that would intrinsically correct such governmental negligence, and to reconstitute such in a form as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness, and in accordance with the 9th amendment of the constitution of the United State of America:
Amendment IX
"The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people."
Whereas disregard and contempt for certain human rights have resulted in barbarous acts which have outraged the conscience of humankind, and the advent of a world in which human beings shall enjoy freedom of speech and belief and freedom from fear and want has been proclaimed as the highest aspiration of the common people, it has become necessary to reaffirm and specifically constitute that humans are naturally endowed with the fundamental right to partner with and grow the plants of this earth for their own uses as individuals in pursuit of life and in effort to live, and that such basic human rights exist and are held in perpetuity outside of the constitutional responsibility of government to protect an individuals right to engage in commerce.
Any and all existing County, State or Federal laws where such conflicts may arise with the herein declared human rights are to be set aside depending on if the individual circumstance determines that such conflicts are occurring outside of a 'commerce' related activity as defined herein, and so for the expressed purposes of this document the word "commerce" shall be taken to mean:
'The buying and selling of goods in any form, as between individual humans, and in direct reference to the exchange of United States currency for such goods or services.'
When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for people to reaffirm and reestablish the fundamental human rights that they are endowed, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's origins entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of humankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to come forward in reestablishment.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all humans are created equal, that they are naturally endowed with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to re-declare and reestablish the inherent human rights that would intrinsically correct such governmental negligence, and to reconstitute such in a form as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness, and in accordance with the 9th amendment of the constitution of the United State of America:
Amendment IX
"The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people."
Whereas disregard and contempt for certain human rights have resulted in barbarous acts which have outraged the conscience of humankind, and the advent of a world in which human beings shall enjoy freedom of speech and belief and freedom from fear and want has been proclaimed as the highest aspiration of the common people, it has become necessary to reaffirm and specifically constitute that humans are naturally endowed with the fundamental right to partner with and grow the plants of this earth for their own uses as individuals in pursuit of life and in effort to live, and that such basic human rights exist and are held in perpetuity outside of the constitutional responsibility of government to protect an individuals right to engage in commerce.
Any and all existing County, State or Federal laws where such conflicts may arise with the herein declared human rights are to be set aside depending on if the individual circumstance determines that such conflicts are occurring outside of a 'commerce' related activity as defined herein, and so for the expressed purposes of this document the word "commerce" shall be taken to mean:
'The buying and selling of goods in any form, as between individual humans, and in direct reference to the exchange of United States currency for such goods or services.'
DNAprotection
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here is maybe a better version lol...
The Lake County 'Right to Grow Plants' Human Rights Initiative.
Whereas on this day in the State of California the people of the County of Lake do hereby find that:
When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for people to reaffirm and reestablish the fundamental human rights that they are endowed, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's origins entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of humankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to come forward in reestablishment.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all humans are created equal, that they are naturally endowed with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to re-declare and reestablish the inherent human rights that would intrinsically correct such governmental negligence, and to reconstitute such in a form as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness, and in accordance with the 9th amendment of the constitution of the United State of America:
Amendment IX
"The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people."
Whereas disregard and contempt for certain human rights have resulted in barbarous acts which have outraged the conscience of humankind, and the advent of a world in which human beings shall enjoy freedom of speech and belief and freedom from fear and want has been proclaimed as the highest aspiration of the common people, it has become necessary to reaffirm and specifically constitute that:
1.(a)
Humans are naturally endowed with the fundamental right to posses seeds of and partner with and grow the plants of this earth for their own uses as individuals in pursuit of life and in effort to live, and that such basic human rights exist and are held in perpetuity outside of the constitutional responsibility of government to protect an individuals right to engage in commerce.
1.(b)
Any and all existing County, State or Federal laws where such conflicts may arise with the herein declared human rights are to be set aside depending on if the individual circumstance determines that such conflicts are occurring outside of a 'commerce' related activity as defined herein, and so for the expressed purposes of this document the word "commerce" shall be taken to mean:
'The buying and selling of goods in any form, as between individual humans, and in direct reference to the exchange of United States currency for such goods or services.'
The Lake County 'Right to Grow Plants' Human Rights Initiative.
Whereas on this day in the State of California the people of the County of Lake do hereby find that:
When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for people to reaffirm and reestablish the fundamental human rights that they are endowed, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's origins entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of humankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to come forward in reestablishment.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all humans are created equal, that they are naturally endowed with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to re-declare and reestablish the inherent human rights that would intrinsically correct such governmental negligence, and to reconstitute such in a form as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness, and in accordance with the 9th amendment of the constitution of the United State of America:
Amendment IX
"The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people."
Whereas disregard and contempt for certain human rights have resulted in barbarous acts which have outraged the conscience of humankind, and the advent of a world in which human beings shall enjoy freedom of speech and belief and freedom from fear and want has been proclaimed as the highest aspiration of the common people, it has become necessary to reaffirm and specifically constitute that:
1.(a)
Humans are naturally endowed with the fundamental right to posses seeds of and partner with and grow the plants of this earth for their own uses as individuals in pursuit of life and in effort to live, and that such basic human rights exist and are held in perpetuity outside of the constitutional responsibility of government to protect an individuals right to engage in commerce.
1.(b)
Any and all existing County, State or Federal laws where such conflicts may arise with the herein declared human rights are to be set aside depending on if the individual circumstance determines that such conflicts are occurring outside of a 'commerce' related activity as defined herein, and so for the expressed purposes of this document the word "commerce" shall be taken to mean:
'The buying and selling of goods in any form, as between individual humans, and in direct reference to the exchange of United States currency for such goods or services.'
canndo
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Why is this any diffrent than my declaration that I have the endowed right to cook meth, or LSD or Heroin? I see no distinction, I can partner with the chemicals that surround us in order to formulate new chemicals and compounds I peronsally deem aprorpirate.
Why limit yourself to seeds and plants?
Doer
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Man o man, that plagiarism put me to sleep. So, I'll try my wake up.
4 score and 7 idiots, stood this day and proclaimed before wife and child
we can see it from the moutaintops. We shall overcome. We shall make our
own salt at the sea and ganga on our lawn.
Not in this century, nor in a lifetime, but in this decade. Not because we want to
but, because it is right. Ask not what restrictions may apply, only with our pardon does
the good Earth giveth.
Wherein, wherefore, however it so be in the most part, as to for, humans,
being endowed with glorious erectile tissues, have the un-adulterated, in-alienable
right to partner and procreate, and to seed. Therefore and thusly.....
See. That is so much easier than the rhymes I knocked down for skunk, last week.
I stop only for the salvation of my pals on RIU. You are welcome.
So, I'll try my wake up.4 score and 7 idiots, stood this day and proclaimed before wife and child
we can see it from the moutaintops. We shall overcome. We shall make our
own salt at the sea and ganga on our lawn.
Not in this century, nor in a lifetime, but in this decade. Not because we want to
but, because it is right. Ask not what restrictions may apply, only with our pardon does
the good Earth giveth.
Wherein, wherefore, however it so be in the most part, as to for, humans,
being endowed with glorious erectile tissues, have the un-adulterated, in-alienable
right to partner and procreate, and to seed. Therefore and thusly.....
See. That is so much easier than the rhymes I knocked down for skunk, last week.
I stop only for the salvation of my pals on RIU. You are welcome.
DNAprotection
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because at this point in this discussion its about seeds and plants and the notion that most folks agree with the question and the fact that you gotta start somewhere
if you can word something that speaks to that which you have raised i would be glad to read it and give an opinion...
DNAprotection
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dear dear Doer, the 'plagiarism' as you call it, is merely using language that already holds precedent in the context of 'human rights' declarations etc...i was figuring it would be obvious
ginwilly
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Man o man, that plagiarism put me to sleep.
4 score and 7 idiots, stood this day and proclaimed before wife and child
we can see it from the moutaintops. We shall overcome. We shall make our
own salt at the sea and ganga on our lawn.
Not in this century, nor in a lifetime, but in this decade. Not because we want to
but, because it is right. Ask not what restrictions may apply, only with our pardon does
the good Earth giveth.
Wherein, wherefore, however it so be in the most part, as to for, humans,
being endowed with glorious erectile tissues, have the un-adulterated, in-alienable
right to partner and procreate, and to seed. Therefore and thusly.....
See. That is so much easier than the rhymes I knocked down for skunk, last week.
I stop only for the salvation of my pals on RIU. You are welcome.
This is beautiful, inspiring and I believe touched by divinity like the bible and the constitution.
UncleBuck
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ginwilly
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Ty, I feel pretty.... oh so pretty.
So you went through a lot of trouble to dig up the one post I made about being agnostic.. Did you think my post about Doers post being divine intervention was serious? Man you have issues. What a strange way to waste time.
I guess I should be flattered that some dude is so obsessed about me, but I'm not, I'm kinda creeped out instead. Are you going to start stalking my dating profile now pretending to be a girl? How about inviting to me join one of your fake white power clubs? Whatever floats your boat man. All I ask is that you don't cross the line and pull some real life shit, who knows what you are capable of.
You have been displaying some really odd sociopath type behavior lately, seek help before you hurt yourself or someone close. I'm worried about you little bucktard.
So you went through a lot of trouble to dig up the one post I made about being agnostic.. Did you think my post about Doers post being divine intervention was serious? Man you have issues. What a strange way to waste time.
I guess I should be flattered that some dude is so obsessed about me, but I'm not, I'm kinda creeped out instead. Are you going to start stalking my dating profile now pretending to be a girl? How about inviting to me join one of your fake white power clubs? Whatever floats your boat man. All I ask is that you don't cross the line and pull some real life shit, who knows what you are capable of.
You have been displaying some really odd sociopath type behavior lately, seek help before you hurt yourself or someone close. I'm worried about you little bucktard.
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