UncleBuck
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i can't be sure that this isn't plagiarized, but even if it is not it is pointless and inane to even converse with you.
Gary Johnson 2012!
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sync0s
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like^
There actually not that many liberals that post in the politics section.
Anyways, I must not be a paulbot, Johnson 2012!
What's the deal with all the "plagiarism" posts?
Et tu brute?
I can't imagine someone who has a degree in economics and finance having any knowledge about economics or finance.
deprave
New Member
Well Ron Paul is essentiallty pro-choice also actually because he doesn't think the government should police it......I am not so sure about GJ honestly don't know a whole lot about him but from what I have heard it sounds good except for the open borders stuff and what NoDrama mentioned. GJ is probably my third choice of those at are running. I am not totally sure that he is a real libertarian, however...again just don't know much about him..I don't think anyone really does to be honest.
UncleBuck
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lol.
apparently pro choice means life starts at conception now.
he lost, you can stop carrying his water now.
When does Gary Johnson think life starts?
Canna Sylvan
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Just like how Obama says he's against torture, and closed down Guantanamo Bay like he said too?
Canna Sylvan
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Oooh ooh oooh. (Raises hand!) I can answer that one.
http://www.therightscoop.com/gary-johnson-dodges-question-on-when-life-begins/
So essentially he's a dumb redneck hill billy version of Ron Paul! OMFG!
beardo
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I was indifferent on Johnson, thought he might be alright but you have made me decide I would never support him
sync0s
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In what planet of reason can you say that his stance on life is the "dumb redneck hill billy version of Ron Paul"
Canna Sylvan
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I never said that. I never gave causality to his abortion stance that I said is nearly identicle to Ron Paul. I'm mocking the fact you must be 100% pro-death to be Libertarian, which is why Unclebuck hates Ron Paul. I still stand by him being a redneck, which is separate from his "pro-choice" stance.
sync0s
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1) Word is identical, and I have no idea why you used the word "causality"
2) Gary Johnson and Ron Paul are not "nearly" identical when it comes to abortion
3) How is he a "redneck?"
Canna Sylvan
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With the first part of #1, you lost any desire I may have had towards answering #2 and #3. I meant causation, as in A implies B. So I really should have used the word, implication. But, hey, I'm tired. Good luck on your editor position application.
sync0s
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You don't like to be told what the word really is?
I apologize, oh ye ignorant one.
Rob Roy
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Actually a "true libertarian" in the philosophical sense believes in the non initiation of aggression. Abortion could be construed as aggression.
A "true libertarian" could be taking the side of a "third party", that being the entity being aborted, ie the unborn.
Gary Johnson is far less evil than most of the douchebags and shit sandwiches presently being foisted on the public though...
deprave
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There is no official libertarian stance on abortion but I mean if your a libertarian your likely to think (but not nessecarily) that the government shouldn't be involved with abortion, the same thing Ron Paul believes and also the same thing GJ believes. Its easy to think that Dr Paul would want the states involved because thats what he has said sometimes or insinuated but its a moot point really because he doesn't believe its even possible to police such a thing or that it should be attempted. Dr Paul prescibes morning after pills and birth control himself lol
Then when Dr Paul tries to look good to republican voters he crafts his words to look like he believes the usual republican pro-life stuff but he really doesn't so that makes him look bad to liberal women, really a catch 22 here. Dr Paul does believe in naturual law but really so does any christian or just about any philosophical person and thats a good talking point on abortion but he doesn't believe in constitutional amendment and the normal pro-life stuff we are all accustomed to from evangelicals and right wing, its really a completely different view. Many people have such strong views on this issue that its either your pro-life or pro-choice but really thats not the reality, this isn't such a 2 dimensional issue. Much like Gary Johnson and Dr Paul, I consider myself pretty much pro-life ethically but essentially I am pro choice because I don't think its the governments business.
I think all this is exemplified well in the GJ interview beardo posted, I mean.....sorry guys I understand how strongly some feel about this but its not pro-choice or pro-life, maybe it is for you, but the reality is that its just not that 2-demensional...there is a 3rd, 4th, and even a 5th stance on this issue.
Then when Dr Paul tries to look good to republican voters he crafts his words to look like he believes the usual republican pro-life stuff but he really doesn't so that makes him look bad to liberal women, really a catch 22 here. Dr Paul does believe in naturual law but really so does any christian or just about any philosophical person and thats a good talking point on abortion but he doesn't believe in constitutional amendment and the normal pro-life stuff we are all accustomed to from evangelicals and right wing, its really a completely different view. Many people have such strong views on this issue that its either your pro-life or pro-choice but really thats not the reality, this isn't such a 2 dimensional issue. Much like Gary Johnson and Dr Paul, I consider myself pretty much pro-life ethically but essentially I am pro choice because I don't think its the governments business.
I think all this is exemplified well in the GJ interview beardo posted, I mean.....sorry guys I understand how strongly some feel about this but its not pro-choice or pro-life, maybe it is for you, but the reality is that its just not that 2-demensional...there is a 3rd, 4th, and even a 5th stance on this issue.
UncleBuck
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nonsense.
they both believe it should be a state issue, but old ronald believes that life begins at conception and would love to see all 50 states enact bans if he is consistent with his own rhetoric.
gary johnson, on the other hand, believes that the woman has the right to choose up until the viability of the fetus.
no wonder you support ron paul, everything is muddled in your world.