Gastanker's 600+w Organic UV Grow

You guys are fucking hilarious. Cracking me up this morning.

Endur0xX said:

I am planning on trying the water cure on a LOT of my buds. I won't use any cola but the nice buds under them. I hear people can barely smell it when you smoke it, its gonna be my "out n about" stash. (my girlfriend hates when I smell like pot in the grocery store hehe) I will try on the AK first anyway, maybe about 50G wet .... So Gas you didnt feel like it was a waste of buds at all hey? I dont care about bag appeal, I am not selling it. I still want a lot of tasty buds though hehe.

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I've done it before so I knew what to expect. It's different, I could see some people saying it's a complete waste and others really liking it. If I had to choose between air cure or water cure for the rest of my life I would choose air cure in a second, but at the same time I do really like the water cured from time to time.

I really like the increase in potency - it doesn't change the high or anything but you get higher off a smaller hit. I really like the feeling of falling backwards into a high after taking a huge huge hit but at the same time I don't like the coughing and hacking and everything else and with the water cured you don't need to take the big big bong rip, a regular toke from a regular pipe and I get the same effect.

Actually to be honest I like the taste of it to a degree as well. Ever have freeze dried blueberries or raspberries? They taste nothing like a fresh raspberry or blueberry, like 1/10th the intensity, but the flavor is still there and it's still a good one.

Endur0xX said:

why don't you just start flowering other plants in 3gallons pots sitting on the 1000gallons pot until the other 2 finishes?

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I was thinking about that. They are so small though that I'm not sure it is worth it. Might actually dig em up and put them into 3gal pots and flower em in my veg cab while my veg plants veg in my flower tent. Actually I should probably revert the vet plant back to veg. I didn't take any clones and it's too tiny to produce enough worth losing the genetics for.

might as well scratch them if you are about to that! their roots are probably going all over that container. I just did this with a small plant that was in the laundry basket in my LED cabinet, I removed it and replanted it... and after a few days I just killed it because I could tell it was going to take forever to recover, it was just starting to flower...(it was a bagseed anyway) There was no point trying with this one ... but you already have buds though... tough call! I would just let them finish while starting other ones in 3 galls... or scratch em... I wouldnt try to move them! Good luck anyway. haha

ANother question, you say that you took the popcorn buds at christmas, werent you suppose to water cure for 7 days? I read less than that is simply not worth doing1?

Endur0xX said:

might as well scratch them if you are about to that! their roots are probably going all over that container. I just did this with a small plant that was in the laundry basket in my LED cabinet, I removed it and replanted it... and after a few days I just killed it because I could tell it was going to take forever to recover, it was just starting to flower...(it was a bagseed anyway) There was no point trying with this one ... but you already have buds though... tough call! I would just let them finish while starting other ones in 3 galls... or scratch em... I wouldnt try to move them! Good luck anyway. haha

ANother question, you say that you took the popcorn buds at christmas, werent you suppose to water cure for 7 days? I read less than that is simply not worth doing1?

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Yeah I meant to throw that in there. If you water cure do it for the full 7 days or even a few more. My buds were a bit under done for sure. They were meant for new years but I got impatient Your water cured bud will also continue to cure to a degree after it has dried - 14 day water cure is not the same as 14 day water cure + 14 day air cure afterwards.

lmao.. glad to make ur morning hilarious... lmao..

Gastanker said:

Yeah I meant to throw that in there. If you water cure do it for the full 7 days or even a few more. My buds were a bit under done for sure. They were meant for new years but I got impatient Your water cured bud will also continue to cure to a degree after it has dried - 14 day water cure is not the same as 14 day water cure + 14 day air cure afterwards.

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so let me understand this.. u put ur bud in a jar of water for 14 days? then dry for 14 days. right?

hammer6913 said:

so let me understand this.. u put ur bud in a jar of water for 14 days? then dry for 14 days. right?

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Put bud into jar of water and change the water every day or every couple days. After a week to 14 days take them out and dry them (just hang up/screen like normal, they actually dry pretty quickly - 2-5 days). Once dry cure like any other bud. They will be immediately smoke-able once they are dry but will continue to get better as you jar/cure them like any other bud.

Gastanker said:

Put bud into jar of water and change the water every day or every couple days. After a week to 14 days take them out and dry them (just hang up/screen like normal, they actually dry pretty quickly - 2-5 days). Once dry cure like any other bud. They will be immediately smoke-able once they are dry but will continue to get better as you jar/cure them like any other bud.

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kewl bro gonna give it a try.. got a sensi star and a uk jungle cheese coming up soon. havent tried the sensi star yet but ukjc is a good strain... gotta run to town and pik up my banjo.. jammin to hard and broke it. lol i wish. it slid of the arm of the chair and broke its poor little nut. had to have it re-nutted.. hope its bigger this time lmao... have a good day guys..

I read this is no point going past 7 days either .. why wait longer!? Also apparently you can dry it really fast using a heater or whatever when it comes out of the water after 7days because the bud is already cured, so 8days after harvesting you have smokable buds

hammer6913 said:

so let me understand this.. u put ur bud in a jar of water for 14 days? then dry for 14 days. right?

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im pretty sure your supposed to use RO water as it is the osmosis effect from the water to the buds that do the curing.

baisicly the water leeches everything out of the bud by way of osmosis, this is why you loose the taste, the THC is not water soluble so it stays. if you dont change the water out the water becomes the same chemical makeup as the bud your trying to cure and is unable to leech out the chlorophy and whatever else it is removing

Who is Mr Organic? I forgot... well I think I know but I would like a reminder. Pm me please and let me know.

Do I talk out of my ass often? I would really really hope someone would call me out on it in a polite way if I talk out of my ass every now and then. I keep seeing really knowledgeable people trying to adamantly state facts about issues they are not all that knowledgeable in and it makes them look really silly. Do I do that often? If I ever say something that I think I know but it turns out I have no idea what I'm talking about and you know that for a fact, please call me out.

For instance if I ever give anyone advise on how to fix a car immediately call me a dumbass for offering information on a topic I know very little about - guessing doesn't help people unless you make sure to state that it's a fairly unfounded guess, and even then it doesn't help much. And don't worry, I'm not talking about anyone that frequents this thread.

whew, lol for a sec i was like " dam i didnt think i was THAT wrong about the organic stuff in homer simpsons thread "the newt guy" but i dont know shit about organics

matthebrute said:

whew, lol for a sec i was like " dam i didnt think i was THAT wrong about the organic stuff in homer simpsons thread "the newt guy" but i dont know shit about organics

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You've been pretty dead on about all the advise I've seen you give. Helps me a ton of time when I see that you handling the common questions.

Usually it's non pot related stuff like electrical wiring. If you don't know anything about electrical please don't give people tips on "dirty power" and your "interpretation" of how a ballast works...

i stay away from electricityu unless its a simple CPU fan wiring job or wiring 2 cords together (easy stuff) lol

I Love electrical shit √ Not any good at it, but I love it none the less

Not a word of false info has come out of your mouth GT....Been following you quite a while now, and you've done nothing but help √

Psychild said:

I Love electrical shit √ Not any good at it, but I love it none the less

Not a word of false info has come out of your mouth GT....Been following you quite a while now, and you've done nothing but help √

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i concur, i actually refer you to people because you seem to have your shit together, your never a dink and you always have a way to back up your information. you are a great contributer to the RIU community

Thanks guys, great to hear. I do however sometimes spew crap out of my mouth so I assume it happens on the forums as well. In the future always feel free to call me out and if I get defensive and start to act like an ass call me out on that as well - in a polite way of course.

Someone brought up dimmable ballasts and what bulb configurations you can run. For those that are unaware you do not need to change bulbs when stepping down wattage - you can run bulbs at wattages lower than they are rated. I'm not encouraging this but just want to let people know what is possible. Of course it is best to use the propper wattage bulbs as they are designed to give off light at a given temperature and wattage changes this temperature - you can clearly see how the spectrum of the 1kW bulb changed as I dimmed it.

1kW Hortilux HPS in my 600w Lumatek ballast:
[video=youtube;C3ozJvPjEQ8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3ozJvPjEQ8[/video]

400w Philips HPS in my 600w Lumatek ballast:
[video=youtube;Jh_bCHpstFI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jh_bCHpstFI[/video]

If anyone wants videos of the 600w HPS/MH let me know - they are the two bulbs I actually run so I would assume most people to believe me that they have no problems running between 360-660 watts. I almost exclusively run my MH at 400w - not sure why I didn't just get a 400w MH bulb...

Gastanker said:

Someone brought up dimmable ballasts and what bulb configurations you can run. For those that are unaware you do not need to change bulbs when stepping down wattage - you can run bulbs at wattages lower than they are rated. I'm not encouraging this but just want to let people know what is possible. Of course it is best to use the propper wattage bulbs as they are designed to give off light at a given temperature and wattage changes this temperature - you can clearly see how the spectrum of the 1kW bulb changed as I dimmed it.
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If anyone wants videos of the 600w HPS/MH let me know - they are the two bulbs I actually run so I would assume most people to believe me that they have no problems running between 360-660 watts. I almost exclusively run my MH at 400w - not sure why I didn't just get a 400w MH bulb...

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Yes I heard that too, that it wasn't recommended to dim the bulb itself as it affects the colour spectrum (not all the gases within the bulb are activated) makes sense from a chemistry point of view...\
Nice vids!