hammer6913
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good stuff there tanker what is the mix ratiowhen u start mixing more items together?
Gastanker's 600+w Organic UV Grow
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Gastanker
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I make is all up as I go along depending on what needs to be accomplished (time of cycle) and what nutes I'm working with. I determine what ratio of N
:K I want and figure out what ratio of the different ferts that is. I base the ratio on simple box N-P-K ratings taking into account what % is soluble and what % is insoluble (time released). I then look at the box/bag and read the quantity they recommend you use per gallon of soil. If I'm running a 1:2:1 of GaunoA:GuanoB:Bonemeal and GuanoA recommends 4 tablespoons per gallon I'll add just 1 tablespoon per gallon instead (it is only 1/4 of the mix by ratio). As a general rule it is extremely hard to cause nute burn organically. You can cause salt build ups with organics but as long as you flush once (I still haven't done this) sometime during the grow you should be fine laying it on heavy.
mrorganics
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Id like to save some money on my next grow soil wise since 2 bags of of and 2 bags of light warrior cost me 90$. What's a good soil recipe I can make for cheaper? What about house mixes at nurserys?
Gastanker
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I hear Subcool's soil formula works well. I was actually just browsing the local craigslist for local soil producers and there were several places offering both aged organic compost for a starting medium as well as hopped up soil for pot farmers. The hopped up stuff was pricey, $140 for a cubic yard (13.5 bags of FF). The base though was a bit cheaper and could easily be amended.
If I were to do it myself on a large scale I would go with whatever I could find for cheap locally. Start with a good compost, add some dolomite, chicken manure, earthworm castings, sand, perlite, guano, bone/blood meal, trace minerals, and then inoculate. I saw an add for local chicken manure at $25/cubic yard - that's some cheap organic fertilizer.
House mixes vary. Some are great and some terrible. Ask them all about it and if they can tell you about it in depth it's prolly great stuff. If they have no idea what is in it I might shy away.
mrorganics
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I don't even really know where to start, craigslist doesn't have anything for sale soil wise, compost wise there's some rabbit poo and regular compost. I'm very new at building a soil and I don't wanna mess anything up...might just have to stick to the basics mixing the of and light warrior.
Gastanker
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It really only gets cheaper when you are using your own compost and soil or doing it on a large scale. Would a cubic yard of soil be to much for you? I could walk you through how I would amend it but some of that has to do with what is available and that might differ from here and where you are. I happen to be in a college town surrounded by farmland which makes pretty much everything accessible.
growinhound
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WOw a wall of lights . Nice room Gas.i look at that and i know i am a BEGINNER lol.
Gastanker
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Thank you. I too am just a beginner and will swear to that till the day I die. Does look pretty with the side lighting though huh?
growinhound
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freakin awesome yes , my space bout half that tho. runnin 600w in 2 1/2 by 2 1/2 by 8' mylar lined double grow area . hard to set up and get right . temps and all . no camera eithr or know how to upload much . i got acomputer some meds lol room full of girls. im subbed , thanks for the peek into that hall of lights. nice
growinhound
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i just got a new lumatek high par bulb too. its my back up tho.600w dimmable lumatek ballast i got 2 of those,only using 1 for now that comes into play 2 months from now . timing is everything.and being very cautious.when i started i started 3 of my 4 plants in reg soil with llime. the other one is FFOF.....wow big diffrence. that was before i invested in FFOF and their full line.money was not there.now im working my way through this difficilt DIRT grow and FF. FF is like the easy way. all i can say is 2 months from now ill b cheezin! with the RIGHT grow.i guess that bud made me chatty lmao. peace good nite
Gastanker
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It's amazing how much good soil helps. Although I did have an amazing grow with miracle grow soil. I have a 1000w digital from HTG and a newer 600w dimmable lumatek. The Lumatek ballast is sooo much nicer so I am really hoping the lumatek bulb works out to the same degree. Cheaper than Hortilux as well.
'Night.
Psychild
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It's all about maintaining the ideal ratio of N
Here is a chart of roughly my nute schedule:
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_biKk6NUCUvw/TZk7W34vvsI/AAAAAAAADqw/oPDJQU0Rf3o/s800/Fullscreen%20capture%20432011%2083014%20PM.jpg[IMG]
I aim for a high N with some P to start with, then have the P gradually over take the N around second week of flower, and finally ramp up the K at the end.
On my chart the names of the nutes are just labels - so the second bat guano watering would be in week 3, not week 2, and disburse 5-1-1, the 10-3-1 is there just to remind you of the actual rating on the box.[/QUOTE]
Wow, you just saved me about 3 weeks worth of Nutrient reading. Makes a whole lot more sense when you through the numbers up there on a chart Lol
Edit: How often do you water your plants with out nutrients?
Gastanker
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Glad it helped. Made me realize I needed more kelp meal.
So far I've watered with nutes every single time. To be honest they are really due for a heavy flush.
Gastanker
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Spider Mites 
I've been looking for them for weeks just waiting and they have finally showed up. Only found them on a single leaf of one plant but that probably means they are already everywhere. Sprayed them down with azamax and gave them a nice big flush today. Hopefully I didn't fry too many pistils nor drown too many roots.
Also removed the vet plant from the tent. As i suspected she is starting to herm out and I'm not all that disappointed as I don't really have the room for her. Actually I'm thinking I should have just stuck to the first two chocolope - I think I could have easily trained them a bit more and filled the complete tent with just them.
I've been looking for them for weeks just waiting and they have finally showed up. Only found them on a single leaf of one plant but that probably means they are already everywhere. Sprayed them down with azamax and gave them a nice big flush today. Hopefully I didn't fry too many pistils nor drown too many roots.
Also removed the vet plant from the tent. As i suspected she is starting to herm out and I'm not all that disappointed as I don't really have the room for her. Actually I'm thinking I should have just stuck to the first two chocolope - I think I could have easily trained them a bit more and filled the complete tent with just them.
MsBBB
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Spider Mites
I've been looking for them for weeks just waiting and they have finally showed up. Only found them on a single leaf of one plant but that probably means they are already everywhere. Sprayed them down with azamax and gave them a nice big flush today. Hopefully I didn't fry too many pistils nor drown too many roots.
What gave you reason to think that the spider mites were coming? Is it that time of the year where you live, or did you get some infected clones or soil?
Gastanker
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I have outdoor plants in my living room overwintering and my place is just so small that my tent gets exposed to all of my dirty clothes and the like. I never had issues with spider mites when I lived in the city but now that I have a tiny place out in the woods I can't seem to keep them out. So far they have popped up every single time with devastating results.
I didn't have Azamax before though. Hopefully by hitting the plants hard today and by keeping up with it I'll still manage some decent bud. Lets just hope the Azamax doesn't fry all my pistils.
MsBBB
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Okay, that nice country atmosphere and natural surroundings. Ahh, sounds good to me, you're living the life. You are treating the other plants as well, not just the MJ plants?
Gastanker
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I kicked all of the other plants out of the house. It's warming up now so they should be ok - probably another reason I am getting the mites now. I just need to find a temp home for my pet lizard so I can spray his cage and then all indoor vegetation will have at least one coat of Azamax on it.
