No, you just need to change the way you're using the friggin' thing!If there is something I should change on my comp let me know.
oh no, i blv you.Sure, if you like, but yellowing lower leaves are spent and can be removed without fear.
I've always been of the (completely unsubstantiable) opinion that fan leaves attached to the mainstem are mainly supporting the construction of the mainstem and once the finishing height is attained (by wk 4 in a SoG), they are not doing much. I let them be for the most part but remove obviously spent fans.
If you're up for some experimentation, you can always try removing all fans from several plants and letting them be on some others. Important to have a greater sample quantity than 1 per method being compared when doing stuff like this.
Yes, but I think I'd probably not go overboard pulling fans off before they are about 4-6wks into flower. Defoliation while they are still gaining height will probably stunt them.i just want to make sure i can trim trim trim if i need to. meaning if the fan leaf is still green and its laying on another plant or blocking airflow, im snipping or cutting in half.
think im in the clear aye?
When cloning you can cut the fan leaves in 1/2 to lower transpiration and keep them from overlapping. Over lapping leaves can foster fungus which can get trapped in between the leaves. Just keep your medium evenly moist to prevent the cut leaves from bleeding out sugars that can attract disease.pulling off the whole fan vs cutting a fan in half.
any difference? same amount of stress? or less cutting in half?
i guess half solar panel is better than no solar panel?
Think that'd work on my toes?Over lapping leaves can foster fungus which can get trapped in between the leaves. ....When cloning you can cut the fan leaves in 1/2 to lower transpiration and keep them from overlapping.
I guess i misunderstood you. I personally don't think that it will stunt or stress the plant that much knowing that you can cut the leaves in 1/2 for starting clones and it doesn't seem to stress new clones much. I think that cutting the fan leaves in 1/2 would be better than removing them totally. JC says not to remove large fan leaves unless they have 50% or more damage to them. I would think some solar panel would be better than no solar panel but i am no expert.thanks sticky..... i already know that....
but that wasnt my question
lol thats exactly what I did Al. My bad!No, you just need to change the way you're using the friggin' thing!
I believe what you might have done was saved the link to the HTG web page as a bookmark and then pasted that bookmark into your RIU message.
Instead, copy the URL of the link you want to include (right-click the link, select 'copy link location') and paste that into your message.
A bookmark file on your local HDD is useful only on your machine, as Mac has said.
If the URL you paste into a msg doesn't begin with "http://" then it won't be usable by anyone else.
no problem enjoy!no doubt it changes from 1 to 108.. just noticed......... great...
That's about the size of it. Leave them intact if they remain in good condition, for as long as possible. You do want to keep your 'solar panels' as much as you can.pulling off the whole fan vs cutting a fan in half.
any difference? same amount of stress? or less cutting in half?
i guess half solar panel is better than no solar panel?
Here's an instance where I would most definitely NOT disturb fan leaves. The fans are definitely needed for a small clone to grow vegetatively, to gain height etc. Cutting leaves on clones in half is straight outta Uncle Bob's 1972 Yippie Underground grow book. Don't do it. You WILL stunt your plants.When cloning you can cut the fan leaves in 1/2 to lower transpiration and keep them from overlapping. Over lapping leaves can foster fungus which can get trapped in between the leaves.
Pardon me, but where on god's green earth did this wacky notion come from?Just keep your medium evenly moist to prevent the cut leaves from bleeding out sugars that can attract disease.
If you see lower leaves on your mums yellowing, try to relocate foliage above them to increase light to the lowers. Do leave the fans if you can. Wouldn't let it scare you too much unless the yellowing is progressing up the plant and it starts to drop a lot of lower leaves. Would go looking for rootzone or watering probs if this were so.I figure I should still leave the fans, eh? The plants aren't that big and probably needs them, the newer growth will regain its vigor once it grows upwards a little. Does that sound right?
Light some candles.Al, what do you do in the case of an electrical shut down for whatever reason .
Wax dripped all over the place, big nasty fire.What are the dangers that can occur?
Keep a fire extinguisher handy. Remove candle wax drips from clothing etc with hot tap water.What safety measures do you think someone should consider if that were to happen.
I don't now nor have I ever used MH for flowering. You've misread something along the line.thinking on trying your method and was wondering if you would answer sum questions?
why did u use mh over the four trays and hps over mums? i've heard opposite..
The two 1000HPS lights in the flowering area each have their own timer and do run approximately the same 12/12 cycles, but one light starts about 2-3 mins after the other. HPS lighting draws a lot of current while starting and while the lamp is warming up. Staggering the start times reduces the max load on my wiring.the thousand watters are they set to one cycle forever....
Yep, that's right.and do your plants sit in your grow room side by side at four stages of growth"stair stepping"..pretty much 2 rooms, mumsnclones//the four trays
And why the hell not? There's some useful stuff in there.excuse me for typing an i have read sum not all the 108 pages
You don't have any right to direct traffic around who has the right to speak and who does not.shut up nerd
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also big al10 is a nerd who types when not typed to............
I have been reading up on cloning in my Jorge Cervantes 2008 grow bible in the cloning section, since i am almost at that point in my grow. That's where i got the info on cutting the fan leaves and keeping the medium evenly moist to prevent cut leaves from bleeding out sugars. It made since but i guess JC is wrong on that one.That's about the size of it. Leave them intact if they remain in good condition, for as long as possible. You do want to keep your 'solar panels' as much as you can.
Here's an instance where I would most definitely NOT disturb fan leaves. The fans are definitely needed for a small clone to grow vegetatively, to gain height etc. Cutting leaves on clones in half is straight outta Uncle Bob's 1972 Yippie Underground grow book. Don't do it. You WILL stunt your plants.
Pardon me, but where on god's green earth did this wacky notion come from?
If you damage a plant's leaves or stems, sap will quickly dry on the injury site to seal the wound.
I can't see the evenness of watering of media as having any effect aside from wetting all the roots evenly...
If you see lower leaves on your mums yellowing, try to relocate foliage above them to increase light to the lowers. Do leave the fans if you can. Wouldn't let it scare you too much unless the yellowing is progressing up the plant and it starts to drop a lot of lower leaves. Would go looking for rootzone or watering probs if this were so.
However, a clone really only needs a couple of fully intact leaves to get going. See the link in my sig to the photoessay about cloning to get an idea of how much foliage a clone should start out with.