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sandhill larry

sandhill larry

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I love it when a customer gives me an early opening time, then are late. Especially when an hour's sleep {or work} would have come in handy. Oh well. The wife had an early thing this morning, so if I hadn't had to come to work early, I would have had to go to her deal or hurt her feelings. Didn't want to do either.

Anyway. At 0855 it's mostly cloudy, 82F with 79% humidity. Forecast high of 87F with 60% chance of rain today, and a low of 71F tonight. I saw some sunshine a minute ago, so the rain might hold out until the wife has finished her outside stuff.
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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Mid-Willamette Valley, Oregon: Typical marine temperate climate for this time of year. Overcast and in the mid 50's this morning. By afternoon, clouds will clear and we'll hit mid-70's.

Tomatoes are in the ground protected by "wall o water" and basil is toughing it out on it's own. Mustard greens are ready to harvest.

Snow? What is that?
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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Fogdog said:
Mid-Willamette Valley, Oregon: Typical marine temperate climate for this time of year. Overcast and in the mid 50's this morning. By afternoon, clouds will clear and we'll hit mid-70's.

Tomatoes are in the ground protected by "wall o water" and basil is toughing it out on it's own. Mustard greens are ready to harvest.

Snow? What is that?
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It's white stuff that ruins the gardens of impatient people here lol
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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Fogdog said:
I lived in Boise for about 10 years. Lots of times I had to replant. The hot summers help make up for time lost in the spring.
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I'm not complaining, even tho I'm sure some of my neighbors are. I know it will get hot here soon enough so I'm thankful for the break- and we can always use the moisture. This spring in particular has been very dry here.
 
sandhill larry

sandhill larry

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Good afternoon. At 1330 it's partly cloudy, 82F with 67% humidity. Forecast high of 82F with 20% chance of rain today, and a low of 69F tonight.

We did get rain sometime between midnight and daylight. A little over 3/4". Hard to start with, but then slow and steady for a while. Not sure how long, as I was asleep for most of it. Looks like it will be back tomorrow through Wednesday. We really need it.

 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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sandhill larry said:
Good afternoon. At 1330 it's partly cloudy, 82F with 67% humidity. Forecast high of 82F with 20% chance of rain today, and a low of 69F tonight.

We did get rain sometime between midnight and daylight. A little over 3/4". Hard to start with, but then slow and steady for a while. Not sure how long, as I was asleep for most of it. Looks like it will be back tomorrow through Wednesday. We really need it.

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The recent snow here was welcome for similar reasons. It's been a very dry spring here.
 
sandhill larry

sandhill larry

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ttystikk said:
The recent snow here was welcome for similar reasons. It's been a very dry spring here.
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The same here. Last week on the trail I noticed water sources that are usually strong flowing were just a trickle. If we don't get enough rain, it is pointless for me to do very many patches. Since I actually paid money for some of my seeds this year, I'm going to be more conservative with my numbers.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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sandhill larry said:
The same here. Last week on the trail I noticed water sources that are usually strong flowing were just a trickle. If we don't get enough rain, it is pointless for me to do very many patches. Since I actually paid money for some of my seeds this year, I'm going to be more conservative with my numbers.
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Past precipitation does not guarantee future returns, lol

Too bad we can't consult an almanac to see how much moisture we can expect for the whole season.
 
sandhill larry

sandhill larry

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ttystikk said:
Past precipitation does not guarantee future returns, lol

Too bad we can't consult an almanac to see how much moisture we can expect for the whole season.
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No shit. But my raincatcher should have enough in it to get me started.

I was listening to a panel about the droughts, then the floods in Cali. They were saying as the temps go up, we can expect more of both. Sometimes in the same year.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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sandhill larry said:
No shit. But my raincatcher should have enough in it to get me started.

I was listening to a panel about the droughts, then the floods in Cali. They were saying as the temps go up, we can expect more of both. Sometimes in the same year.
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Global warming will lead to more weather volatility in general, yes. But every locale is its own individual. Keep a close eye on trends in your area.

I'm personally betting that Florida and the Southeast will see more and stronger hurricanes as global temperatures rise.
 
sandhill larry

sandhill larry

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The belt of high pressure that guides the jet stream is what steers them. We will have ten years where they all spin off harmlessly into the ocean. Then we have a year with 5 major hurricanes making landfall in Florida. If that was turned around were we had ten years of hurricanes making landfall, and one year off, the home owner insurance model would explode. But waterfront property would be cheaper.
 
Humanrob

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ttystikk said:
Global warming will lead to more weather volatility in general, yes. But every locale is its own individual. Keep a close eye on trends in your area.

I'm personally betting that Florida and the Southeast will see more and stronger hurricanes as global temperatures rise.
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Did you say volatility? Ya, we're having 30º drops and spikes over just a couple of days, second time this month.

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I grew up in the NE where this was "normal" -- the weather could come from the Great Lakes one day, up the coast from Florida the next. It made for great thunder storms and lightening. But my understanding is that outside of larger seasonal trends, this kind of volatility is not normal for Oregon. I guess its the new normal.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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sandhill larry said:
The belt of high pressure that guides the jet stream is what steers them. We will have ten years where they all spin off harmlessly into the ocean. Then we have a year with 5 major hurricanes making landfall in Florida. If that was turned around were we had ten years of hurricanes making landfall, and one year off, the home owner insurance model would explode. But waterfront property would be cheaper.
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Combined with sea levels rising, I'm expecting waterfront property to be nearly impossible to insure whether or not hurricanes become more frequent.

The difference between a good year and a bad year for hurricanes is just a couple of degrees of ocean temperature, well within the range of observed climate effects.

Talk about a one-two punch for coastal areas in the South and Southeast...

I'll look into Jetstream steering effects. I happened to live in South Florida in 2004 and we surely did have a target painted on us for hurricanes that year!
 
sandhill larry

sandhill larry

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Humanrob said:
Did you say volatility? Ya, we're having 30º drops and spikes over just a couple of days, second time this month.

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I grew up in the NE where this was "normal" -- the weather could come from the Great Lakes one day, up the coast from Florida the next. It made for great thunder storms and lightening. But my understanding is that outside of larger seasonal trends, this kind of volatility is not normal for Oregon. I guess its the new normal.
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That doesn't sound normal for that part of the world. North Texas was always a place where it could go from 60 to 6 inches of ice on the ground pretty quick. If you believe Larry McMurtry, anyway.
 
sandhill larry

sandhill larry

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ttystikk said:
Combined with sea levels rising, I'm expecting waterfront property to be nearly impossible to insure whether or not hurricanes become more frequent.

The difference between a good year and a bad year for hurricanes is just a couple of degrees of ocean temperature, well within the range of observed climate effects.

Talk about a one-two punch for coastal areas in the South and Southeast...

I'll look into Jetstream steering effects. I happened to live in South Florida in 2004 and we surely did have a target painted on us for hurricanes that year!
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I think when the line of high pressure is more to the south, they spin off to the Atlantic before getting into the Gulf. When it is further north they get into the Gulf before moving off to the east.

But I may have it backwards.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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sandhill larry said:
That doesn't sound normal for that part of the world. North Texas was always a place where it could go from 60 to 6 inches of ice on the ground pretty quick. If you believe Larry McMurtry, anyway.
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My ancestors homesteaded in the Texas Panhandle. The only constant factor in the weather equation there is the damned wind.
 
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