OK. I could use a little help with my Lucas formula math, and would love what ever input that you master hydro growers may have on any of this below. (my questions below are NOT all math related, so please don't be scared off with out reading to the bottom)(I included a couple of tips also that may help some noobs)
So...... with Florabloom and Floramicro, the Lucas formula appears to be as follows..........
　
For smaller plants and newly rooted clones under fluoros, Lucas suggests 0g-5m-10b under flourecents, so..........
since full strength = 24ml total Bloom+Micro (at the 0g-8m-16b ratio) to 1 gal. R.O., then that makes full strength about ~1.9 E.C. or ~1100ppm? Is that about right?(estimated w/ my conversion factor below)
....and 15ml total Bloom+Micro (at the 0g-5m-10b ratio) to 1 gal. R.O. would equal "Low Light Lucas" at about ~1.2 E.C. or 687.5ppm?
...so with the FloraDuo that I'm tring to get used to, I see that the direct strength ratio of Flora Series to Duo, is ~ 1.2 : 1 ,(Duo being 1.2 times stronger)
　
So,......20ml total DuoA+B(15ml. part A + 5ml. part B) : 1 gal. R.O. = Full Strength Lucas Veg = 1100ppm (confirmed w/ my free ZeroWater TDS meter w/ an exact conversion factor where 1 E.C. = 579ppm)(btw, it seems to be a decent, consistent meter too; although, the ZeroWater filter itself only made about 50 gallons R.O. equivalent for me before stopping up)
...and 12.5ml total of DUO A+B : 1 gal. R.O.,.... Should equal.... = Low Light FloraDuo = ~1.2 E.C. = 687.5ppm
　
So with my figuring.........
...at 24ml total per gallon : Flora Series(Bloom+Micro) would need 1.2 times more total nutes in ml., than FloraDuo does for the same strength? and that should be about the same as saying......
...at 20ml total per gallon : FloraDuo A+B only needs a total of 83.33% the amount, as compared to Flora Series to make the same strength?
Is at least some of this math about right? LOL
　
So with all that being said, what would be a good ratio of part A to part B be, in ml., for a "low light", FloraDuo/Lucas veg formula, for 1-3 week old seedlings(in ebb&flow with expanded clay/perlite system that I explain below)? I will also need a "low light" Lucas bloom formula eventually as well. Also, I will be adding a 150watt HPS to the light fixture along with the other bulbs before bloom too, so I guess that will need to be considered as well. I will be at a total of 350 true-watts broad spectrum then so........? a "not quite as low light bloom formula" may be needed. LOL
　
Heck,....... Is 200 watts worth(8 bulbs) of mixed 6,000k - 6500k CFLs, spread over about 3 sq. ft., even be considered "Low Light" for veg at 10" away? They are rated at about 14,000 total initial lumens according to the specs(1750 lumens X 8. I would run the bulbs closer, but I need to figure out a way to build an air cooled fixture for all these bad boys, as I start creeping up to about 81-82F max temp during the day in this closet as it is, with the door wide open and a box fan running on high. NO CO2 yet.
　
Oh yeah! Sorry to get of subject, but someone may wanna try these rockin' seed starting tricks, if they haven't ever tried it. For an example, my new batch of Strawberry seeds(the actual red fruit), are going to be started with about a 1.5"(one and one half inch) wide wide cylinder worth of perlite(2 - 3 inches deep), put in a toilet paper tube, that is set into the center of a 6" pot that is already half full of expanded clay(up to the flood line at 3inches), then while holding the tube in place, I fill in around the outside with more clay pellets to the top of the pot, then I slowly and carfully pull the cardbord tube up and out, and it leaves the small perlite cylinder right in the middle, which is AWESOME for starting the seeds without ever having to transplant at all! I just do one good solid top watering to settle the perlite and expanded clay, before the seeds go in. As for the seeds, I rough up, clean, and pre-soak my seeds, all at once, by putting them in a small sealed bottle that is about half full of perlite and water, with a single drop of dish liquid, and then shake it for 10 min. or so, before rinsing a few times with ph corrected, distilled water. I have had some seeds go from dry storage to seedlings with a first set of TRUE leaves in about 48 hours flat by doing this! I mean, that is some craaaaazzzzy fast germination to me! Lol
　
Well, going back to the main issue, does anyone know anybody online that is having, or has had a successful grow(of any kind) with FloraDuo, that has made a DETAILED journel about it?
I'm terribly sorry if this this post is kinna all over the place. I mostly just need some help with getting this Duo stuff dialed in. Which also has me wondering if I need to be using any epsom salts or cal-mag with this stuff, in this setup? Lucas says NO, unless in coco, so...........lol.........I keep trying to tell myself to K.I.S.S.
Anyway, thanks to everyone in advance for any advise and constructive critisism you guys may have, as I really will appreciate it! Have a great one everybody and TTYL
So...... with Florabloom and Floramicro, the Lucas formula appears to be as follows..........
　
For smaller plants and newly rooted clones under fluoros, Lucas suggests 0g-5m-10b under flourecents, so..........
since full strength = 24ml total Bloom+Micro (at the 0g-8m-16b ratio) to 1 gal. R.O., then that makes full strength about ~1.9 E.C. or ~1100ppm? Is that about right?(estimated w/ my conversion factor below)
....and 15ml total Bloom+Micro (at the 0g-5m-10b ratio) to 1 gal. R.O. would equal "Low Light Lucas" at about ~1.2 E.C. or 687.5ppm?
...so with the FloraDuo that I'm tring to get used to, I see that the direct strength ratio of Flora Series to Duo, is ~ 1.2 : 1 ,(Duo being 1.2 times stronger)
　
So,......20ml total DuoA+B(15ml. part A + 5ml. part B) : 1 gal. R.O. = Full Strength Lucas Veg = 1100ppm (confirmed w/ my free ZeroWater TDS meter w/ an exact conversion factor where 1 E.C. = 579ppm)(btw, it seems to be a decent, consistent meter too; although, the ZeroWater filter itself only made about 50 gallons R.O. equivalent for me before stopping up)
...and 12.5ml total of DUO A+B : 1 gal. R.O.,.... Should equal.... = Low Light FloraDuo = ~1.2 E.C. = 687.5ppm
　
So with my figuring.........
...at 24ml total per gallon : Flora Series(Bloom+Micro) would need 1.2 times more total nutes in ml., than FloraDuo does for the same strength? and that should be about the same as saying......
...at 20ml total per gallon : FloraDuo A+B only needs a total of 83.33% the amount, as compared to Flora Series to make the same strength?
Is at least some of this math about right? LOL
　
So with all that being said, what would be a good ratio of part A to part B be, in ml., for a "low light", FloraDuo/Lucas veg formula, for 1-3 week old seedlings(in ebb&flow with expanded clay/perlite system that I explain below)? I will also need a "low light" Lucas bloom formula eventually as well. Also, I will be adding a 150watt HPS to the light fixture along with the other bulbs before bloom too, so I guess that will need to be considered as well. I will be at a total of 350 true-watts broad spectrum then so........? a "not quite as low light bloom formula" may be needed. LOL
　
Heck,....... Is 200 watts worth(8 bulbs) of mixed 6,000k - 6500k CFLs, spread over about 3 sq. ft., even be considered "Low Light" for veg at 10" away? They are rated at about 14,000 total initial lumens according to the specs(1750 lumens X 8. I would run the bulbs closer, but I need to figure out a way to build an air cooled fixture for all these bad boys, as I start creeping up to about 81-82F max temp during the day in this closet as it is, with the door wide open and a box fan running on high. NO CO2 yet.
　
Oh yeah! Sorry to get of subject, but someone may wanna try these rockin' seed starting tricks, if they haven't ever tried it. For an example, my new batch of Strawberry seeds(the actual red fruit), are going to be started with about a 1.5"(one and one half inch) wide wide cylinder worth of perlite(2 - 3 inches deep), put in a toilet paper tube, that is set into the center of a 6" pot that is already half full of expanded clay(up to the flood line at 3inches), then while holding the tube in place, I fill in around the outside with more clay pellets to the top of the pot, then I slowly and carfully pull the cardbord tube up and out, and it leaves the small perlite cylinder right in the middle, which is AWESOME for starting the seeds without ever having to transplant at all! I just do one good solid top watering to settle the perlite and expanded clay, before the seeds go in. As for the seeds, I rough up, clean, and pre-soak my seeds, all at once, by putting them in a small sealed bottle that is about half full of perlite and water, with a single drop of dish liquid, and then shake it for 10 min. or so, before rinsing a few times with ph corrected, distilled water. I have had some seeds go from dry storage to seedlings with a first set of TRUE leaves in about 48 hours flat by doing this! I mean, that is some craaaaazzzzy fast germination to me! Lol
　
Well, going back to the main issue, does anyone know anybody online that is having, or has had a successful grow(of any kind) with FloraDuo, that has made a DETAILED journel about it?
I'm terribly sorry if this this post is kinna all over the place. I mostly just need some help with getting this Duo stuff dialed in. Which also has me wondering if I need to be using any epsom salts or cal-mag with this stuff, in this setup? Lucas says NO, unless in coco, so...........lol.........I keep trying to tell myself to K.I.S.S.
Anyway, thanks to everyone in advance for any advise and constructive critisism you guys may have, as I really will appreciate it! Have a great one everybody and TTYL
So should I just add another 11.5mL of 1/3 parts A to 2/3 parts B to get the extra nutrients to basically double my PPM level ?? Or should I invest in one or more of those if they are really worth it???
