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Just picked up a mouse gun the other day - S&W Bodyguard 380 2.0 for summertime (shorts cargo pocket carry). It's ridiculously small & less than 10 oz empty. Kinda a bitch to shoot - and definitely a bitch to load with out a loader.
Trigger is great but it's gonna take some getting used to with that short sight radius.

GreatwhiteNorth said:

Just picked up a mouse gun the other day - S&W Bodyguard 380 2.0 for summertime (shorts cargo pocket carry). It's ridiculously small & less than 10 oz empty. Kinda a bitch to shoot - and definitely a bitch to load with out a loader.
Trigger is great but it's gonna take some getting used to with that short sight radius.

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That's definitely a 1 meter gun for me. I had a nice Colt .380 but despite many rounds, I had to be right up on the target for any accuracy.

I just picked up a Winchester 20 gun safe. It’s hard to get 20 in there though and forget about it if you have scopes on them. 30 minute fire rated, not sure the rating on the fridge.

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So in light of recent debates on this site, I've come to meet (as much as one can on an online forum) many other gun owners. So, my simple question is, what's everyone packin?

Last year I was laid off for a decent length of time and had to sell my ruger sp101, and HK45CT. I still have a Bersa Thunder 9mm UC, and a Springfield XD40 Sub.

So... what are the favorite pieces in your collection?

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I’m partial to old guns, my favorite is my great, great, great uncles 25-35, lever action, octagonal barrel, buckhorn sights. Also have a full military 30-40 Kraig from WW1, it was my wife’s grandfather’s, it has shrapnel in the stock, he was walking across a field in France, when the guy next to him stepped on a land mine!! I also have my Grandfathers. Model 11 Remington, made between 1906 and 1911, it was made under Browning Patent, looks just like the old square back Browning A-5.

Phytoplankton said:

I’m partial to old guns, my favorite is my great, great, great uncles 25-35, lever action, octagonal barrel, buckhorn sights. Also have a full military 30-40 Kraig from WW1, it was my wife’s grandfather’s, it has shrapnel in the stock, he was walking across a field in France, when the guy next to him stepped on a land mine!! I also have my Grandfathers. Model 11 Remington, made between 1906 and 1911, it was made under Browning Patent, looks just like the old square back Browning A-5.

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Yup. No black rifles or handguns here, except for my Benelli M4 lol. If I could only take two of my guns with me to take care of business it would be my Socom 16 and my match 1911. If I could only keep 4 of my guns it would also be my other M1A and my Marlin 30/30.
To kill zombies it would be the socom, the M4 shotgun and the 1911 lol.
The black guns feel like pieces of shit to me. I’ve shot plenty of them.

Aeroknow said:

Yup. No black rifles or handguns here, except for my Benelli M4 lol. If I could only take two of my guns with me to take care of business it would be my Socom 16 and my match 1911. If I could only keep 4 of my guns it would also be my other M1A and my Marlin 30/30.
To kill zombies it would be the socom, the M4 shotgun and the 1911 lol.
The black guns feel like pieces of shit to me. I’ve shot plenty of them.

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1911, classic!! There’s something about the artistry and workmanship, and style of older guns, the have a different “feel”, plastic doesn’t “feel” right.

I'm still on a black powder kick and just fell down the Midway rabbit hole. I Planned on just getting an 1858 Remmy, since my Colt was a jammaholic and took a tumble for another $2000. They were offering free shipping, plus an addition 10% off and many things I wanted also had some good sales. A good chunk of it was getting setup to reload. I'm starting with the easier straight wall stuff, 38/357 and 45-70.

The Remmy was a good deal at $375 for the stainless. I'm also psyched to shoot the Marlin with Holy Black and not cough up $3 a round.

7CardBud said:

I'm still on a black powder kick and just fell down the Midway rabbit hole. I Planned on just getting an 1858 Remmy, since my Colt was a jammaholic and took a tumble for another $2000. They were offering free shipping, plus an addition 10% off and many things I wanted also had some good sales. A good chunk of it was getting setup to reload. I'm starting with the easier straight wall stuff, 38/357 and 45-70.

The Remmy was a good deal at $375 for the stainless. I'm also psyched to shoot the Marlin with Holy Black and not cough up $3 a round.

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Black powder is fun, my buddy shoots 50 cal for deer/elk, and i pheasant hunt with a 12 ga. black powder percussion cap side by side.

I don't talk about my guns and ammo......
It makes people uncomfortable.

And how come every time I think I have enough ammo I watch the news and now I don't have enough ammo.

This is a list of links to all of (Jeff) "Cooper's Commentaries" that he published for the Gunsite family from 1993 to 2006.

These links are to a prodigious grouping of articles, field manuals and bulletins of primarily WW1 & 2 weapons grouped by country. The site itself is devoted to military surplus. Takes some searching around but lots of info. Many experts on the site.

This is a link to Chinn's long out of print and rare massive 5 volume work on the machine gun (1951) published by the Bureau of Ordnance Department of the Navy,

Link to Julian Hatcher's early 20th century book on the machine gun

"Hatcher's Notebook" from 1947

Many Elmer Keith articles

Old "Guns" magazine issues 1955-72

Some older articles from Massad Ayoob
https://americanhandgunner.com/category/our-experts/ayoob-files/

Books by Townsend Whelen (You may have to register on the site (free) and get on a waitlist to view some books (free also)
https://archive.org/search?query=creator:"Whelen,+Townsend,+1877-1961"

FWIW, large forum on weapons

Hundreds of firearms manuals

Military Manuals

and if you're into SA shooting:

Many books on all subjects, geared for preppers.

Back in the mid 80's to 1992 when I moved down here I was a regular at the Toledo Sports Arena gun shows and the lucas county rec center gun shows. I concentrated on Civil War stuff but I collected data on all firearms.
Running a table at a show is dependant on how close to the door you are. People act like herd animals and the crowd follows a snake pattern through the tables. I was 2 rows back and after a seller gets to me he has turned down more than a few offers.
One such was a guy and his wife with grandpas old deer rifle. It was a great 1903 springfield comversion with a magazine well but no magazine. Customs like these we very popular after the wars as the 30 06 was a great deer gun but with no magazine it was a parts gun.
I really had no idea why I took another look at it but I wanted to see what conversion the mag well used. You could fit it with a mauser or a remington or even the browning Bar mags would work with machining.
Then I noticed it was missing any mounts for a scope. NO one wants a 30 06 deer rifle with no scope who made this thing. Stock mill sights? Wtf.
when I looked into the well I noticed what looked to be a piece of the mag but there was no release function and no way to retain a mag. This was weird so I dragged out the book.
I rechecked the serials and barrel marks. Prolly turned white. I asked what they wanted for it and they said $200 bucks. I said it was worth that to me as it is a unique piece.

Turned out that grandpa's Springfield was a very limeted production from the custom shop at the factory. The magazine well was not for a mag but a long canvass covered permanenet fixture that was top loaded like the springfield but holding 20 rounds made for the ballon corps for defense against aircraft. I think less than 30 were made and only a few have been found. 2 Are in the Springfield museam with about 200 1903 patterns on display.

The 1858 showed up earlier this week and now I know why you can get a stainless revolver for $375. The finish work.....there is none. The gun wouldn't even light off caps out of the box. I got some 600 grit, 1200 grit, dowels and an oil stone and spent about 2 hours polishing. I beveled the front of the hammer and the hammer slot in the frame. With the sharp corners gone, the gun light off caps. Afterwards, I went through the rest of the action, all full of sharp corners and burrs. They should list this thing as a kit gun, that just happens to ship in assembled form.

The gun shot like a dream compared to the Colt. Not one cap jam. If the caps blew up, they fell out the side of the gun instead of down into the action.
The gun does draw attention at the range. Boom...Boom.....Boom and then there is a smoke screen in front of you. People walk down the range to see what the hell you're shooting. It was a long fun day, at the end I loaded up a full cylinder of 777 (43 grain compressed charge) which is about 15% more energetic than black powder. That was like shooting a mild .357 load. Shot a 144grain ball at 1160FPS.

At the end, after sitting over a bucket of hot soapy water for way too long, I immediately ordered an ultrasonic cleaner off Amazon.

7CardBud said:

The 1858 showed up earlier this week and now I know why you can get a stainless revolver for $375. The finish work.....there is none. The gun wouldn't even light off caps out of the box. I got some 600 grit, 1200 grit, dowels and an oil stone and spent about 2 hours polishing. I beveled the front of the hammer and the hammer slot in the frame. With the sharp corners gone, the gun light off caps. Afterwards, I went through the rest of the action, all full of sharp corners and burrs. They should list this thing as a kit gun, that just happens to ship in assembled form.

The gun shot like a dream compared to the Colt. Not one cap jam. If the caps blew up, they fell out the side of the gun instead of down into the action.
The gun does draw attention at the range. Boom...Boom.....Boom and then there is a smoke screen in front of you. People walk down the range to see what the hell you're shooting. It was a long fun day, at the end I loaded up a full cylinder of 777 (43 grain compressed charge) which is about 15% more energetic than black powder. That was like shooting a mild .357 load. Shot a 144grain ball at 1160FPS.

At the end, after sitting over a bucket of hot soapy water for way too long, I immediately ordered an ultrasonic cleaner off Amazon.

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From age 20 to 27 I did black powder. Even had a black powder double 10 gauge I hunted ducks and geese with on the Maumee River. Had a straight pull cap rifle for deer but never got one with BP.
lots of good times and honestly if you are not allowed to have a firearm for home defense a 45 revolver in BP is a very good choice. Modern lubricants and glop can keep a BP revolver ready to go for 6 months at a time.
I am sure you are aware BP has a steep curve for bad things. PB needs a modest chamber pressure or larger booms happen. 1 grain to many and a fouled barrel causes scars.

Jimski said:

From age 20 to 27 I did black powder. Even had a black powder double 10 gauge I hunted ducks and geese with on the Maumee River. Had a straight pull cap rifle for deer but never got one with BP.
lots of good times and honestly if you are not allowed to have a firearm for home defense a 45 revolver in BP is a very good choice. Modern lubricants and glop can keep a BP revolver ready to go for 6 months at a time.
I am sure you are aware BP has a steep curve for bad things. PB needs a modest chamber pressure or larger booms happen. 1 grain to many and a fouled barrel causes scars.

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A prohibited person or someone that doesn't want to jump through hoops set up by their local legislators might be drawn to buy one of these for home defense. If I had to do that, I would probably opt for a 5.5" sheriff model. I've also heard stories of people taking a wall hanger down with a 100 year old charge in it only to send a Minié ball through the ceiling.

I am new, but I always do thorough research. I had a coffee pot going with hot water and made sure the bore was clean and ran a patch with bore butter before firing the max load.
I could definitely see someone shooting a hot heavy conical with large bearing surface into a fouled bore earning a gimp award.
The gun shot best with 28grains of 777, fairly accurate and not much kick.