Grain bag showing no growth after 3 weeks

canndo

canndo

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JPCyan said:
Im not sure what yall are actually seeing in this poor grainy photo that is such a horror it needs to be discarded. I might see some discoloration, maybe, possibly...Might it fail? Sure. But damn ease up. He's learning.

As far as smell, im not saying stick your nose on the damn patch. , if it is bacillus it will be noticeable in the general area. And instantly recognizable as such. No others i would even hint at knowing what they smell like or attempting to id by smell. But if you smell fermentation./rotten apples/ burnt bacon, in the general area of the bag, 95% chance its bacillus.

Canndo offers solid information and advice from obvious experience and knowledge. Much respect.
His way may not be my way on everything, but one size does not fit all when it comes to myco strategies. (I have no luck with popcorn for instance). I understand his erring on the side of caution. myco contaminates and aflatoxins can be/are nasty nasty stuff

I would never suggest using contaminated spawn, BUT is this even contaminated? Only way to know is let it grow out a bit more. If it were pink, purple, green, black ,or yellow, fuzzy, growing, hairy, sporulating etc..Yeah, toss it.
Most of those will quickly overtake myc and become very visible in the colonizing grain.
I also see almost everyone else just hammering on this guy with little to no actual useful info, just hyperbole and knee jerk reactions. to Canndo's comments. Not helpful. Agreeing is one thing, adding info yeah, but jumping to conclusions based on a comment? C'mon.

I too have 30+ yrs experience in this area. I may not be as knowledgeable as Canndo, But I've had my share of experience. 30+ varieties cubes, 6-7 Panaeolus Cyans/ copleandia, Ps. Cyanescens (indoors), mexicana stones. And a few edibles. Im no expert for sure, but Im not just talking nonsense , I'm trying to add to the learning experience of a beginner.
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You did cyanescence indoors? Good on you
 
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JPCyan

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I totally agree on the thin non nutritious casing. I'd use verm if it were me. I have other potential ideas for fruiting just cause I dont like the thought of fruiting from the bag with a potential contam.. But.. its risky either way. Much of the advice you have given is the same as I have in pm/dm :). almost word for word ahah.

canndo said:
You did cyanescence indoors? Good on you
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Thank you. It took almost 2 yrs, I tried everything to initiate fruiting. Success happened when I pretty much left it alone and conditions in my dank, wet, cool, nasty basement took care of it. Sitting on a basement floor in leaked in ground water in a garbage bag lined milk crate, not a single contam in 5 yrs ;) It fruited one good flush then kept producing randomly for a month to 2. Then again it fruited the same the next two yrs, about same time and conditions. I had a few small trays (6x6x4) fruit as well but nothing spectacular. Just popping volunteers as it wanted to. 4 yrs later and i am just about to transfer a few ropey myc strings to something fresh :)

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HeatlessBBQ

HeatlessBBQ

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JPCyan said:
meaning what? Man you post some random ass shit lol. But its all good. to each his own. enjoy your day :)
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I am not quite sure, Mate.
I think of these types of matters when I run through this particular thread.

Yesterday was a very memorable day. Thank YOU for the additional energy. ~(~(~( )~)~)~
 
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