green or yellow fan leaves at harvest

JohnDee said:

This was exactly my thinking. But one area I need to check out more is how do some of these dudes cure.

I have read that slow drying actually allows the plant to continue metabolizing essentially using up stored nutrients.

But my thinking is that with proper finish (using up stored nutrients)...then you have a head start on drying and curing. With an even smoother product at the end. That is a goal...correct?
JD

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I think your on target. I have split my room back when I was hand watering and tasted a BIG difference in the flower. The plants that used up their stored nutes ant the end of the cycle cured faster and had cleaner flavor.

I've read back and forth on this subject for years and did my own experiment.
Last grow I took 3 plants and kept them green. While the others I let fade.

The ones that were green to the end had smaller buds over all and was 1 pound lighter per plant.

The science I've read behind it is that if the plant is pulling nutes from the roots instead of its leaf then it is wasting energy that it could be using to make fatter buds. (Short version)

ganga gurl420 said:

I've read back and forth on this subject for years and did my own experiment.
Last grow I took 3 plants and kept them green. While the others I let fade.

The ones that were green to the end had smaller buds over all and was 1 pound lighter per plant.

The science I've read behind it is that if the plant is pulling nutes from the roots instead of its leaf then it is wasting energy that it could be using to make fatter buds. (Short version)

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Sounds interesting!
Please share links to this science.

Lots of factors so statistics matter.

Unless you have defoliated your plants, they will be "wasting energy" moving mobile nutrients from leaves to buds if you starve them.

Hmm...

Maybe cutting the immobile nutrients near the end of flower is what makes buds better???
Dunno.

I've heard other growers say plants won't finish right if you keep giving them calcium all the way thru flower.
PH thing?

Again, dunno.
Just thinking out loud.

Chunky Stool said:

. . . . . . . .I've heard other growers say plants won't finish right if you keep giving them calcium all the way thru flower.
PH thing?

Again, dunno.
Just thinking out loud.

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Tdub told me to stop with Epson salt and molasses about week six. Forgot why. Maybe it took a couple of weeks for the plant to get around to using it?

A lot of the time I will have plants in various stages of flower in the same patch, so they all get what the majority needs.

too larry said:

Tdub told me to stop with Epson salt and molasses about week six.

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Hi Too Larry...seen your name around but never bumped into you. Not sure about the Ca++ thing Chunky Stool was referring...but Mg is too important to withhold IMHO. Most flush products actually contain Epsom salts.

No calcium in Epsom salts. Now Calmag is a different story.
JD

JohnDee said:

Hi Too Larry...seen your name around but never bumped into you. Not sure about the Ca++ thing Chunky Stool was referring...but Mg is too important to withhold IMHO. Most flush products actually contain Epsom salts.

No calcium in Epsom salts. Now Calmag is a different story.
JD

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Are yellow veins a sign of mg deficiency?
I'm seeing that on a lot of my outdoor plants.

Easy enough to fix with a foliar, if that's the problem...

Chunky Stool said:

Are yellow veins a sign of mg deficiency?
I'm seeing that on a lot of my outdoor plants.

Easy enough to fix with a foliar, if that's the problem..

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Hi Chunky Stool,
It's much more complicated usually. K+ deficiency shows somewhat similar to Mg def. but much less common.
OK...look at a marijuana leaf on the outside saw-tooth edge. starting in the notches inward are the veins. Mg def. shows chlorosis between the veins. Minor but important point.

And marijuana in general and some strains more then others likes lots of Mg. White Widow and related strains will show deficiency if you don't supplement.

So if you haven't been supplementing magnesium and your plants show interveinal chlorosis...it would be a fair guess that it's Mg deficient and yes, foliar or applied to roots via watering can both resolve this.

This is a gross simplification and how the plant looks as the deficienct develops is also part of it. Look it up.
Cheers,
JD

Interesting read.
I normally taper down and end up with a nice fade. Ive just harvested a green plant (6 days ago) and will be interesting to see what it ends up smoking like. It is frosty and stinky.

Lucky Luke said:

Ive just harvested a green plant (6 days ago) and will be interesting to see what it ends up smoking like.

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Luke...seems most of the folks harvesting green rely on a long cure to smooth things out...so try that. I'd love to hear the results.
JD

JohnDee said:

Luke...seems most of the folks harvesting green rely on a long cure to smooth things out...so try that. I'd love to hear the results.
JD

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I've found that overdosing with phosphorous is what gives buds that harsh taste.

The same is true with tomatoes.
Hit em with a few doses of 5-50-17 while they're ripening and it will make them taste like shit -- guaranteed. (Been there, done that.)

Not that the majority of stoners care.
"Can't get off until you cough" is bullshit.

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I've found that overdosing with phosphorous is what gives buds that harsh taste.

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Chunky...you are absolutely correct (been there done that myself) but there's a very broad spectrum between unsmokable...all the way to...smooth and flavorful.

So P isn't the only thing to fuck with flavor, just the worst.
JD

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Luke...seems most of the folks harvesting green rely on a long cure to smooth things out...so try that. I'd love to hear the results.
JD

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I'll put a couple smaller buds away for myself and try it in a few months time.