Greenpoint seeds!!

boybelue said:

What was it? People saying all the offspring was mutated or something. If that holds true that would be bad, being untested.

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I’ve posted about it many many times including screenshots of IG posts and messages talking about issues with crosses from that particular plant. I haven’t seen anyone say they’ve gotten decent results from a MAC1 cross. I have seen many people say they’ve had issues.

To be clear, the issue appears to only be specific to the MAC1 cut.

The issues seem to include the following:
- very low seed production
- very low germination rates on seeds
- majority of plants that germ are mutants. Full on deformed leaves, no vigor mutants.

I have seen two plants from MAC1 crosses that look good. But each took a breeder popping all the seeds from a MAC1 pollination to find. Cap has also used it for breeding, and managed to find at least one decent plant. But again, it took popping a lot of seeds.

Given that the MAC1 cut has been shared pretty widely at this point (it’s going to be the next GG4, just watch), and the massive popularity of anything MAC, I would expect to have seen at least a single “successful” cross with the cut if it was possible.

Some people claim that Cap has said that MAC1 was shit for breeding just to keep people from breeding with it. I mean it’s possible, but if that was the case, I would’ve expected someone to prove him wrong at this point. If Cap doesn’t want people breeding with his stuff, I don’t know why he would’ve given away the cut for free to so many people.

I would not recommend buying anything MAC1. Is it possible to get a decent plant? Yes. But, it’s highly unlikely that a single pack will produce even a single halfway decent female.

Gu is well aware of these issues. He also doesn’t test his crosses. Finally, from what I’ve heard, he’s also already experienced the reduced seed production, which just supports that the MAC1 issues exist.

Believe me, don’t believe me. At least now anyone who reads this is informed.

Greenthumbs256 said:

I have never heard the name mac for any strains where did it come from? or what?

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use the search feature in this forum for capulator seeds

Bodyne said:

the males are fine for breeding I think and there are some shots of people finding one close to the cut in seed form of the females. Why you see Umami and others using the mac as a breeding male, not using the cut.

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When you say as a breeding male do you mean just another male pheno or reversing the cut and using that pollen on other fems? I mean is it ok to use as a pollen donor just not the receiver?

boybelue said:

When you say as a breeding male do you mean just another male pheno or reversing the cut and using that pollen on other fems? I mean is it ok to use as a pollen donor just not the receiver?

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males are males. Nobody said S1, which is reversing the cut and using female pollen on other fems. When are males the receiver? I have a pack of mac f2's regs from somebody that made em off a pack of the first beans or so. They are regular males and regular females. But males are males. so yea, using the male or a male in a cross, like Umami did, with the MACmints aka MAC/thinmint is prolly tits. Its using the cut MAC1 as mom in the crosses that is the problem.

i won't touch a mac cross with a 10 ft pole unless i see a few strong grows of the strain first. massive amounts of response from breeders and people who've grown them about herms and mutants galore. forget who the breeder was, but they recently abandoned the idea of using mac and gave the f1 beans away as freebies with a warning/disclaimer.

you're right that it only takes 1 plant, but i flower 4 at a time and if that 1 plant is 1 in 500 then that strain has no place in my little tent unless someone wants to find that 1 in 500 and send me a cut

i have respect for cap, i followed his posts online for years and have nothing bad to say about him as a grower or breeder, i just don't think it is even possible for a single strain or plant to deserve that kind of hype in the world of cannabis today. what does it have that apparently nothing else right now does according to some? i think it's mostly just people wanting to say they have that 'new new'.

i'll be watching for the regulars to grow it out though. looking at you @LubdaNugs

Goats22 said:

i won't touch a mac cross with a 10 ft pole unless i see a few strong grows of the strain first. massive amounts of response from breeders and people who've grown them about herms and mutants galore. forget who the breeder was, but they recently abandoned the idea of using mac and gave the f1 beans away as freebies with a warning/disclaimer.

you're right that it only takes 1 plant, but i flower 4 at a time and if that 1 plant is 1 in 500 then that strain has no place in my little tent unless someone wants to find that 1 in 500 and send me a cut

i have respect for cap, i followed his posts online for years and have nothing bad to say about him as a grower or breeder, i just don't think it is even possible for a single strain or plant to deserve that kind of hype in the world of cannabis today. what does it have that apparently nothing else right now does according to some? i think it's mostly just people wanting to say they have that 'new new'.

i'll be watching for the regulars to grow it out though. looking at you @LubdaNugs

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My list of prospects is far too deep, but thanks for thinking of me.

does anyone have some advise on getting bubble hash left over unstuck from the 25 micron pressing screen? I've got about a gram stuck that I can't get off all it do is make a big mess! I'd like to get that gram and use it, not just clean the screen (dont care about the screen)

Bongsmoke420 said:

I got a trim tray with a 150 micron screen makes some good full melt hash.... I just got 2 different micron screens to make some cleaner stuff next time worth a look if you like making your own, and I think these gps strains would make some awesome hash

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how much do you trim At a time? and what's ur yield from that! I usually only trim one or 2 plants at a time! but if I ever manage to afford this expansion shit I'm working on, my goal is to pull roughly a half p every month, I'd like to get to a whole but gotta keep my goals reasonable so I can actually make it!

Bodyne said:

males are males. Nobody said S1, which is reversing the cut and using female pollen on other fems. When are males the receiver? I have a pack of mac f2's regs from somebody that made em off a pack of the first beans or so. They are regular males and regular females. But males are males. so yea, using the male or a male in a cross, like Umami did, with the MACmints aka MAC/thinmint is prolly tits. Its using the cut MAC1 as mom in the crosses that is the problem.

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I think you totally missed what I was saying. I meant was it ok to use the Mac cut as the pollen donor in fem on fem . Thats what I meant by donor not receiver.

Greenthumbs256 said:

does anyone have some advise on getting bubble hash left over unstuck from the 25 micron pressing screen? I've got about a gram stuck that I can't get off all it do is make a big mess! I'd like to get that gram and use it, not just clean the screen (dont care about the screen)

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You can dissolve it in alcohol. If the bubble has moisture in it, it can make the alcohol evaporate weird. Like runny and has alcohol trapped in it. Dry it as much as possible first.

Greenthumbs256 said:

does anyone have some advise on getting bubble hash left over unstuck from the 25 micron pressing screen? I've got about a gram stuck that I can't get off all it do is make a big mess! I'd like to get that gram and use it, not just clean the screen (dont care about the screen)

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Have you tried putting it in the freezer?

Yes they're worth the money

Greenthumbs256 said:

how much do you trim At a time? and what's ur yield from that! I usually only trim one or 2 plants at a time! but if I ever manage to afford this expansion shit I'm working on, my goal is to pull roughly a half p every month, I'd like to get to a whole but gotta keep my goals reasonable so I can actually make it!

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I trim a plant at a time, I didn’t weight that piece but was easily over a gram, and that was from 5-10 mins doing a little shake with it. Lol my Bruce banner was plenty frosty, got real dank clean as hash, if you trimmed all of your sugar leaves onto it and at the end you give a shake, you would be suprised with what you got. The frostiest trim will get you the best results

boybelue said:

When you say as a breeding male do you mean just another male pheno or reversing the cut and using that pollen on other fems? I mean is it ok to use as a pollen donor just not the receiver?

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I’ve never heard of anyone using the MAC1 as a pollen donor.

I’m guessing that it would show the same issues.

Pure speculation, but I think there’s a good chance that the MAC1 has chromosomal abnormalities. That would explain the issues with crosses, and plants tend to handle them better than vertebrates (polyploidy is relatively common in plants compared to vertebrates).

It might also possible that it could be an issue with development of female sexual organs, and a reversal would be fine. Won’t know until someone tries though.

jayblaze710 said:

I’ve never heard of anyone using the MAC1 as a pollen donor.

I’m guessing that it would show the same issues.

Pure speculation, but I think there’s a good chance that the MAC1 has chromosomal abnormalities. That would explain the issues with crosses, and plants tend to handle them better than vertebrates (polyploidy is relatively common in plants compared to vertebrates).

It might also possible that it could be an issue with development of female sexual organs, and a reversal would be fine. Won’t know until someone tries though.

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Sure if we ask Heisendrama he will do it.

blowincherrypie said:

Well done.. I gotta say, its nice to see a pic from you without the dark background. Them buds dont need any.. camera tricks

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I've never done any camera tricks, what would u say is the best way to get the most natural pic? usually I just place the bud on my coffee table and snap a pic, but I had this drawing pad thing on the table and just figured I'd use it!

how does everyone here like to take their pics, no tricks or anything just the best way to get natural pics!

Greenthumbs256 said:

I've never done any camera tricks, what would u say is the best way to get the most natural pic? usually I just place the bud on my coffee table and snap a pic, but I had this drawing pad thing on the table and just figured I'd use it!

how does everyone here like to take their pics, no tricks or anything just the best way to get natural pics!

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I think he meant not taking pics in the dark. I like seeing them trichs glow myself!

boybelue said:

I think he meant not taking pics in the dark. I like seeing them trichs glow myself!

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yea when I take pics on the plant I don't have much of a choice there really isn't much light in the flower room other than the hps, and even with heisen advise on taking pics under hps they still don't look to great! so usually when I take pics of the flower room I do it right at lights off and just use the flash on the cam.

Some Cowboy cookies




and a few more girls hung today

here's one of my phenos of tomahawk! I thought she was just about done but still throwing some white pistols, and the calyxes haven't really started to swell just yet, so she may take another week or two. time will tell, but good news I haven't found any more nanners since that one! The yield on her isn't nothing insane but it's way better than my JP yeild!