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DubsFan

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Are these not being grown in hydro? I read through and follow a lot of threads and it's possible I have this one mixed up. I thought this was growin' in Rockwool w/ Hydroton using Ebb & Flow?

I could reread it, but that's just crazy, it's huge.

When I start from seeds I feed them PLAIN water for ~ 2 weeks. By then they are on about their 3rd or 4th set of leaves.

Veg feeding Schedule looks like this....

Week 1: 0 ppm
Week 2: 0 ppm
Week 3: 200ppm - Start the 3rd week with 50ppm. Increase by 50ppm each day until 200ppm is reached.
Week 4: 200ppm
Week 5: 300ppm
Week 6: Increase by 100ppm each day until you reach ~600ppm.

Week 7: Flowerin' time. Whole different schedule.

Some people like to pump the nutrients faster, but if you look through all of my past grow journals you will see WHY I do it this way.

Now, this is a basic guideline for what I would call "safe growing" and a good start for a first timer. This is a minimal feeding schedule and will should give you healthy plants, but not all strains are created equal. And that's where things get interesting.

Using this basic guideline I can work on determining my plants needs without risking burning them and slowing my progress.

I am looking for these indicators in veg:

1) PPM is rising as the water level drops - Too strong. Need to add water and lower the PPM. The plants are taking up more water than nutrients.

2) PPM is falling as the water level drops - Too Weak. Plants are taking up more nutrients than water. Need to add more nutrients to keep the plants happy.

3) PPM stays steady as the water level drops - We are in the right zone.

That again is another basic guideline, I then have to look at the plants....

1) Lower leaves are starting to yellow and overall the plant looks a bit "pale"
-Pleant is underfed and she would really like some more nutrients. Don't need to be drastic, she's just a hungrier breed.

2) Plant is REALLY dark green and starting to get "The Claw". The leaf tips are beginning to curl under. - She's overfed and has too much Nitrogen. Back off the nutes for a little bit. Overfed plants aren't happy.

You'll get the hang of it over time, but it's best to start out with less.

I'm on my first hydro grow and I would agree with all of this. I'm 40 days into my 4x8 tray Rockwool grow. I finally have the money zone. PPM is about the same as water level goes down. 1100 seems to be the number.

My buddy has an identical set up but has a different strain. He starts them off at 1200ppm. I have no clue how he gets away with it. It has to be the strain.
 

laserbrn

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See what I mean about the sites?

Ahhh....yes, and so it begins! They just start out looking like tiny little bright flowers at the start at the ends of the growing tips. Can you take a couple with no lights? They look healthy, but the color is hard to tell with those and everything is a little washed out. If that's all we've got to work with I'd say your plants look good. Usually it's about 3 weeks into flower that they flowers really start showing up. By the mid way through week 4 - 5 is when they become "colas" sorta speak and you start to see the spiraled flowers starting to connect.

Right now your plants are just going to stretch out a bit and make some room for buds to get light.
 

smokingrubber

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It's hard to see in the pics. Unless you see ballz I wouldn't sweat it much. She'll drop her panties and show you her flower pretty soon. I would send you some patience if I had ANY to spare.
 

anon1122

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It's hard to see in the pics. Unless you see ballz I wouldn't sweat it much. She'll drop her panties and show you her flower pretty soon. I would send you some patience if I had ANY to spare.
Nevermind, they are definetly turning into buds now. And boy do they stink...
 

anon1122

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Ppm is at like 1200, the buds are starting to develop. Tomorrow is res change and I start week 3 of the flowering schedule. It uses Grow big, big bloom, and beastie bloomz. Maybe I'll work in some pics at some point soon. Hope everyone is doing well.
 

anon1122

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Changed the res. I have now started week 3 of the FF feeding schedule. 2tsp per gallon growbig, 1tbsp per gallon big bloom, 1/4tsp per gallon beastie bloomz. I had to add extra nutes to get the ppm right, about 2 gallons worth. Hopefully my new qt of big bloom will be here by monday, im running LOW. I have enough to take care of roughly 2 top offs before its gone.

If anyone reading this is going to be using the complete fox farm line like I am, make sure you get extra big bloom. I have a 7.5 gallon res and the quarts just aren't enough. When I crop out its time to get the gallon sizes... lol.

We'll see how they develop the next couple of days. ph 5.8-6.0 and ppm is in the 1200 range.
 

Bob Smith

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Changed the res. I have now started week 3 of the FF feeding schedule. 2tsp per gallon growbig, 1tbsp per gallon big bloom, 1/4tsp per gallon beastie bloomz. I had to add extra nutes to get the ppm right, about 2 gallons worth. Hopefully my new qt of big bloom will be here by monday, im running LOW. I have enough to take care of roughly 2 top offs before its gone.

If anyone reading this is going to be using the complete fox farm line like I am, make sure you get extra big bloom. I have a 7.5 gallon res and the quarts just aren't enough. When I crop out its time to get the gallon sizes... lol.

We'll see how they develop the next couple of days. ph 5.8-6.0 and ppm is in the 1200 range.
Please tell me I'm reading that incorrectly and you didn't put 2 gallons of nutes into your reservoir (unless you have a 300 gallon reservoir, in which case that'd be okay).
 

laserbrn

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Please tell me I'm reading that incorrectly and you didn't put 2 gallons of nutes into your reservoir (unless you have a 300 gallon reservoir, in which case that'd be okay).
I think he means for example he has a 15 gallon reservoir, he had to add nutes based on a 17 gallon reservoir to get the PPM where he felt it was appropriate.
 

anon1122

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That's exactly what I meant, thanks laserbrn! Yeah, the ladies are doing great. I got a green colored cfl so if I need to open the tent at night, I can just use that. Works really well too, got it at lowes for ~5
 

laserbrn

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That's exactly what I meant, thanks laserbrn! Yeah, the ladies are doing great. I got a green colored cfl so if I need to open the tent at night, I can just use that. Works really well too, got it at lowes for ~5

Best not to open the tent, but if you MUST (c'mon when do you really HAVE to?) the green bulbs are better.
 

anon1122

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Best not to open the tent, but if you MUST (c'mon when do you really HAVE to?) the green bulbs are better.
I haven't used it or anything, I just have it in case I have to go in during dark hours and I use it in the room in general at night just in case of light leaks I may have missed.
 

anon1122

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Not much new today. Pics will be up for a short time later. Look for them around 8-9pm est. They'll be down by midnight. How is everyone's sunday going? Im chilling with a bowl of ak watching some Trailer Park Boys. Hope you're all chillin too.
 

anon1122

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I think they're gonna start getting fed every hour. the root tips that are hanging out the bottom are starting to get dry between the 2 hr waterings. 15 min on 45 off.
 

laserbrn

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I think they're gonna start getting fed every hour. the root tips that are hanging out the bottom are starting to get dry between the 2 hr waterings. 15 min on 45 off.
That's odd, my plants went to looking overwatered and I cut my watering back to 4x /day for 15 minutes each.

I think the 4x4 rockwool cubes are just sucking up a bit more moisture.
 

anon1122

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That's odd, my plants went to looking overwatered and I cut my watering back to 4x /day for 15 minutes each.

I think the 4x4 rockwool cubes are just sucking up a bit more moisture.

I think they dont like the every hour, so I changed it every 1.5 hrs. Anyway, here's some pics. they tend to get droopy towards the end of their day and it's 30 min. till lights out.
 
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