Guide to Nutrient Deficiency or Toxicity

NyQuilkush318

NyQuilkush318

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[QUTE="chuck estevez, post: 10728440, member: 509695"]not much to worry about at this point, it isn't bad enough to worry about this far along.[/QUOTE]
What should i do flush or. Light flush I mean what I been following for 54days she is a sativa Street 100% so she wwill take 14/16weeks to finish so she ant no were done[/QUOTE]
Just up your cal/mag a little when feeding, I don't Flush anything but turds, If you want to know how I finish my plants I would be happy to tell you, But, Leaching is for fixing over fertilizing issues.[/QUOTE]
Ok bro I well do that but I hope it stops
 
NyQuilkush318

NyQuilkush318

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chuck estevez said:
Just up your cal/mag a little when feeding, I don't Flush anything but turds, If you want to know how I finish my plants I would be happy to tell you, But, Leaching is for fixing over fertilizing issues.
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Yeah tell me how you finsh bro I need the knowledge[/QUOTE]
When the plant is ready to harvest, I pour boiling hot water over the roots. This starves the roots of oxygen and starts the breakdown of sugars,starches and chlorophyll. Leave it under the lights for 3 days, then harvest. No leaching or flushing necessary[/QUOTE]
Ok hot water I never heard of that an how much calmag u think I should up I told you I give 1/2a gallon I grow in soil ffof happy frog how many teaspoons help me bro
 
chuck estevez

chuck estevez

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NyQuilkush318 said:
Yeah tell me how you finsh bro I need the knowledge
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When the plant is ready to harvest, I pour boiling hot water over the roots. This starves the roots of oxygen and starts the breakdown of sugars,starches and chlorophyll. Leave it under the lights for 3 days, then harvest. No leaching or flushing necessary[/QUOTE]
Ok hot water I never heard of that an how much calmag u think I should up I told you I give 1/2a gallon I grow in soil ffof happy frog how many teaspoons help me bro[/QUOTE]
usually 4ml per gallon should be enough
 
NyQuilkush318

NyQuilkush318

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[QUthat's a teaspoon wrightE="chuck estevez, post: 10728792, member: 509695"]When the plant is ready to harvest, I pour boiling hot water over the roots. This starves the roots of oxygen and starts the breakdown of sugars,starches and chlorophyll. Leave it under the lights for 3 days, then harvest. No leaching or flushing necessary[/QUOTE]
Ok hot water I never heard of that an how much calmag u think I should up I told you I give 1/2a gallon I grow in soil ffof happy frog how many teaspoons help me bro[/QUOTE]
usually 4ml per gallon should be enough[/QUOTE]
So th
 
NyQuilkush318

NyQuilkush318

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[QOTE="NyQuilkush318, post: 10728811, member: 845790"][QUthat's a teaspoon wrightE="chuck estevez, post: 10728792, member: 509695"]When the plant is ready to harvest, I pour boiling hot water over the roots. This starves the roots of oxygen and starts the breakdown of sugars,starches and chlorophyll. Leave it under the lights for 3 days, then harvest. No leaching or flushing necessary[/QUOTE]
Ok hot water I never heard of that an how much calmag u think I should up I told you I give 1/2a gallon I grow in soil ffof happy frog how many teaspoons help me bro[/QUOTE]
usually 4ml per gallon should be enough[/QUOTE]
So th[/QUOTE]
O don't forget i use tap water citywater tap bro
 
chuck estevez

chuck estevez

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NyQuilkush318 said:
[QOTE="NyQuilkush318, post: 10728811, member: 845790"][QUthat's a teaspoon wrightE="chuck estevez, post: 10728792, member: 509695"]When the plant is ready to harvest, I pour boiling hot water over the roots. This starves the roots of oxygen and starts the breakdown of sugars,starches and chlorophyll. Leave it under the lights for 3 days, then harvest. No leaching or flushing necessary
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Ok hot water I never heard of that an how much calmag u think I should up I told you I give 1/2a gallon I grow in soil ffof happy frog how many teaspoons help me bro[/QUOTE]
usually 4ml per gallon should be enough[/QUOTE]
So th[/QUOTE]
O don't forget i use tap water citywater tap bro[/QUOTE]
yeah, it won't hurt, they like a lot of that in flower.
 
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bean101

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ok so im a newbie and i have posted a few times on here while im in the process of learning how to do this its my first time growing and i didnt even plan on it i jus threw a few seeds out and they got this far without any help from me beside watering every now and them but i was wondering if some one could post a few pics for me since i cant...i was wandering if anyone has a pic of a plant in the begining stages of revegging and pic of a plant in the begining stages of becoming a herm..i think i fucked up my girls and i need something to compare them to...any help would b great
 
CoughyTime

CoughyTime

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NyQuilkush318 said:
Yeah tell me how you finsh bro I need the knowledge
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When the plant is ready to harvest, I pour boiling hot water over the roots. This starves the roots of oxygen and starts the breakdown of sugars,starches and chlorophyll. Leave it under the lights for 3 days, then harvest. No leaching or flushing necessary[/QUOTE]
Ok hot water I never heard of that an how much calmag u think I should up I told you I give 1/2a gallon I grow in soil ffof happy frog how many teaspoons help me bro[/QUOTE]

Questions:
I assume you are using enough boiling hot water to kill the plant. True?
I know starches can break down to sugars, but what does sugar break down to, without involving yeast and fermentation?
 
chuck estevez

chuck estevez

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CoughyTime said:
When the plant is ready to harvest, I pour boiling hot water over the roots. This starves the roots of oxygen and starts the breakdown of sugars,starches and chlorophyll. Leave it under the lights for 3 days, then harvest. No leaching or flushing necessary
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Ok hot water I never heard of that an how much calmag u think I should up I told you I give 1/2a gallon I grow in soil ffof happy frog how many teaspoons help me bro[/QUOTE]

Questions:
I assume you are using enough boiling hot water to kill the plant. True?
I know starches can break down to sugars, but what does sugar break down to, without involving yeast and fermentation?[/QUOTE]acids,gases and alcohol.
 
burgertime2010

burgertime2010

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chuck estevez said:
every problem I read on this page can be fixed very easy.
1. Quit using so much Bullshit
2. quit trying to be perfect on the p.h
3.quit using things like sweet, molasses,cal mag
Just quit it all, use a good 1 part nutrient, drop the bloom nutes, lose the ppm pen,lose the ph meter.
Once i quit doing all of these things and just used jack's citrus feed or dyna gro foliage pro in Small amounts, I saw healthy plants and huge yileds.
LESS IS MORE, learn that and you WILL see results. Quit loving your plants to death. good luck
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You know, I have heard a lot of this talk before and I always ask myself what is bullshit. For instance, There are things like Silicon, Humic acid, and a couple finishing powder products that have proven to be very beneficial to overall plant yeail. Keeping simple and streamlining is always better except when the bullshit works. I think the nutrients are only as good as the plants willingess to use them. Ph, ppm, and bloom boosters like house and gardens shooiting powder are products that are not optional.....they give you more out of your nutes. So, loving to death is not my style but I don't think you are saving money or increasing yeilds here. Just sayin
 
chuck estevez

chuck estevez

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burgertime2010 said:
You know, I have heard a lot of this talk before and I always ask myself what is bullshit. For instance, There are things like Silicon, Humic acid, and a couple finishing powder products that have proven to be very beneficial to overall plant yeail. Keeping simple and streamlining is always better except when the bullshit works. I think the nutrients are only as good as the plants willingess to use them. Ph, ppm, and bloom boosters like house and gardens shooiting powder are products that are not optional.....they give you more out of your nutes. So, loving to death is not my style but I don't think you are saving money or increasing yeilds here. Just sayin
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I just pulled 3 grams short of a qp off 1 OG plant by upgrading my lights and only using jack's citrus feed start to finish, so NO, I don't NEED silica, I don't NEED bloom Boosters, I don't NEED High P/K Nutes, I don't NEED shooting powder, What I do NEED, is the money I save not buying these products.
 
burgertime2010

burgertime2010

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I recently tried a method of flushing that seems to work. It is one heavy flush and then I raise the ph out of range to lockout all nutrients. I don't know that it works as well but theoretically it sounded interesting. A plant cant use what it cant eat...right?
 
chuck estevez

chuck estevez

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burgertime2010 said:
I recently tried a method of flushing that seems to work. It is one heavy flush and then I raise the ph out of range to lockout all nutrients. I don't know that it works as well but theoretically it sounded interesting. A plant cant use what it cant eat...right?
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just pour boiling hot water over the roots, does the same thing but faster.
 
burgertime2010

burgertime2010

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chuck estevez said:
I just pulled 3 grams short of a qp off 1 OG plant by upgrading my lights and only using jack's citrus feed start to finish, so NO, I don't NEED silica, I don't NEED bloom Boosters, I don't NEED High P/K Nutes, I don't NEED shooting powder, What I do NEED, is the money I save not buying these products.
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chuck estevez said:
I just pulled 3 grams short of a qp off 1 OG plant by upgrading my lights and only using jack's citrus feed start to finish, so NO, I don't NEED silica, I don't NEED bloom Boosters, I don't NEED High P/K Nutes, I don't NEED shooting powder, What I do NEED, is the money I save not buying these products.
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Run your show however you want and for a hundred dollars more I will too. You don't need anything but there is a benefit to the products. I am not a big spender but the bloom booster is the only expensive supplement and 15-25% increase in the end everytime. Things like humic acid actually end up saving you money. I get them in bulk and they enable me to use less fertilizer, the info is out there and properly using the products is a big part of it. I dont think your advice would work for all plants in all mediums but you seem to be rocking it. My photo is a picture of plants with 4 weeks left, I pulled 50 oz in 60 days and the result was top shel and delicious.
 
chuck estevez

chuck estevez

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burgertime2010 said:
Run your show however you want and for a hundred dollars more I will too. You don't need anything but there is a benefit to the products. I am not a big spender but the bloom booster is the only expensive supplement and 15-25% increase in the end every time. Things like humic acid actually end up saving you money. I get them in bulk and they enable me to use less fertilizer, the info is out there and properly using the products is a big part of it. I dont think your advice would work for all plants in all mediums but you seem to be rocking it. My photo is a picture of plants with 4 weeks left, I pulled 50 oz in 60 days and the result was top shel and delicious.
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I saw my yields increase when I gave up the boosters and bloom foods, I run several different strains, all in pro-mix using veg nutes at low amounts every time i water. I finish with healthy plants, that was the best thing for increasing yield, UNTIL i got a gavita pro, That damn thing near doubled my yield. Wanna guess what I'm buying next? It isn't shooting powder,lol
 
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Presidentnixon

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I kind of feel too intimidated to even ask anymore questions on this thread but I can't figure this out. It's on my outdoor plant. All the leaves are doing this. I thought maganese def, but when I scrutinize the illustrated leaf chart, it all starts to look the same. So here it is:
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grasscropper

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Presidentnixon said:
I kind of feel too intimidated to even ask anymore questions on this thread but I can't figure this out. It's on my outdoor plant. All the leaves are doing this. I thought maganese def, but when I scrutinize the illustrated leaf chart, it all starts to look the same. So here it is:
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I too have had plants with leaves like this... and yes, the defiicienies etc. all seem to look very similar in the charts to me as well. My issues tend to be with watering to start... and things go from there. So whenI see issues I stop watering.... and wait.
 
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