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lurkmaster said:

You sir, are a troll.

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Hahaha..

Have you seen SZ's grow???

He was kicking ass when I was still thinking of getting an AG...

If he is a troll.. than what is a troll?

I think SZ is just laughing his ass off right now...

I'll take another hit and join him......

He wants to show his skills so he posts other peoples journals? Say what?!?!?! "I am a great grower guys i swear... now here is a link to Mblaze's journal"...

gypsy put it best with the special olympics bit. this shit thats been going on with this thread today is reminiscent of something....

ahh yes!! 7th grade when i first discovered chat rooms...
my biggest pet peeve is when one (including myself) has something to say, that is valid, but it is shut down with pointless stupidity.

example

Guy 1 - "well topping leads to multiple shoots and multiple colas"
Guy 2- "pssh.. whatever thats dumb.. you dont know what you're doing"

long story short, if somebody has got something to say, talk about it, dont bash it, its a discussion not a pissing contest..

even if you win the pissing contest, odds are good you end up with piss on you somewhere...
not as clever as gypsy, but i just dont like bullshitting about bullshit, i enjoy bullshitting about new ways of growing.

with that said... i should top them tall bitches and hit 12/12 pronto, eh?



when i say top, i mean take these bitches down to first or second node so i can lollipop.
yeah yeah yeah... im trying to mimic you gypsy.. only i won't go HPS. those are my restrictions.. call me whipped (my woman keeps me from making a grow room, as well as my paranoia) but i'm keeping everything small scale because my grows are just little hobby grows, and will be few and far between and not worth the investment...

yeah i know HPS pays for itself when talking grams to watts. but the ducting and cooling etc... becomes a pain in the ass and doesnt fit into my limitations.

long story short... drop a few nodes??

I would not touch them...

I would straight up flower them right now...

When they start to stretch, do what I did on my AG grow... get some bread ties and tie the branches down...

You are flowering very small clones, on purpose I know, but they are small...

Anything you cut off of these will decrease your yield, and prolong harvest day...

And Shack...

Thanks for sticking around... I do appreciate you...

Hey shack is that an incandescent bulb in the back?

tom__420 said:

He wants to show his skills so he posts other peoples journals? Say what?!?!?! "I am a great grower guys i swear... now here is a link to Mblaze's journal"...

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I think he meant to say he taught those guys how to grow...

tom__420 said:

Hey shack is that an incandescent bulb in the back?

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Pretty sure he uses CFLs...

GypsyBush said:

where's YOUR pics?

you just sounded like you are really experienced in failing before you finish...

and that you have tried so many things you have never really learned any of them...

and just because "the one eyed man" can help the blind across the street, does not mean he has good vision...

Just saying what it SOUNDS like...

show us some of YOUR WORK.. documented on RIU or not..

Just bring it.. but don;t bring Fox's pics.. use your own...

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Well, all of my failures were simple mistakes that I, being the novice grower that I was just neglected or was just too cheap to buy the right stuff being the broke ass college student that I am. Some of the problems were because I have had to 'temporarily' move my grow ops because my complex needed to do 'damage assesments' on all the rooms in my building.

My last grow most accurately reflects my growing ability, which is why its linked in my signature.

But man.. do I have to go over this again..

I deleted ALL of my grow pics from my computer. The only ones I have are in my threads here on riu, I guess I'll go dig some up, give me a few mins.

Anyways, I really have jack shit to show for all that I know. But I have shared the knowledge that I have obtained with other people and they are having great results using the guide that I have laid out, and the people that I helped IRL are happily harvesting fully matured (9 weeks flowering) plants every 3 weeks using my perpetual harvest method.

The real stuff is going to be starting in august...

I am going to do a complete growthrough with my aero setup and F2 cross finding parents for my C99 project.

I found some pineapple and grapefruit C99 pheno seeds

lurkmaster said:

No, actually explicitly said the opposite in the first few lines of that post, that just shows that you can't read.

You sir, are a troll.

I posted those pictures to prove a point that I have done many *undocumented* grows, not just the ones I have posted here on RIU.

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And guess what, I have never harvested fully mature bud before! But I've taken about 8 different strains from veg all the way to flowering some further than others. Many of them I have grown out twice. I Always seemed run into problems along the way... I have lost 3 plants to root rot (whole crop). 2 crops to stem rot, and two other grows where the remaining plant was male, and I've even had a plant herm on me. I can't tell you how many germinated seedlings I have killed...

I have gone through so much trial and error... I have grown in handful of different mediums, organic soil, DWC, AeroGarden, BubblePonics and I even designed my OWN aeroponic setup.. If you find anyone else who has a design where the roots are that oxygenated that is simpler than that I will be amazed.

I couldn't really give a rats ass about if you think I am qualified or not, I have alot of first hand experience and knowledge.

And.. so these people that are following my guide have a bad teacher? Don't think they would say so.

https://www.rollitup.org/aerogardeners/184721-my-2nd-aerogarden-grow-25.html



https://www.rollitup.org/aerogardeners/191944-ag-round-2-a-40.html


You can hate me all you want, and I will continue to share the knowledge that I have.

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I don't hate you, that isn't my nature. However it is my nature to point out when people are being foolish.
Case in point: You're very knowledgeable, yet you've never actually finished a grow?

It sounds to me like you've had nothing but problems growing marijuana. You certainly aren't a model teacher by any stretch.
I certainly wouldnt take any advice from someone who can't keep their own grow straight. You need to get humble in a hurry my good man.

I hate to keep flinging shit at you, but you just keep presenting it in such nice little piles. As we move further into the future, you prove yourself a very immature and out of touch with reality individual.

GypsyBush said:

And Shack...

Thanks for sticking around... I do appreciate you...

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haha thanks bro. i couldn't leave, this thread kills WAAAYYY too much of my time..

GypsyBush said:

I would not touch them...

I would straight up flower them right now...

When they start to stretch, do what I did on my AG grow... get some bread ties and tie the branches down...

You are flowering very small clones, on purpose I know, but they are small...

Anything you cut off of these will decrease your yield, and prolong harvest day...

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they got the transition nutes today and 24 hour dark tomorrow, then 12/12 so i'm spot on in that regard.

but about tying them back where do you tie off to?? you're talking LST.. but how do i keep the stems where i want them on the AG? bend stems and tie off to the plant itself? or bend the stem and tape down the tie to the AG grow surface?

(this is me not claiming to know something and asking haha )

GypsyBush said:

I think he meant to say he taught those guys how to grow...

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I wouldn't go that far, but I have given them a little bit of guidance along the way.

lurkmaster said:

I wouldn't go that far, but I have given them a little bit of guidance along the way.

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Lurk's guide is the reason i have air stones in my res, and also the reason i added extra lights.

don't owe it all to him, but he knows sum'min about sum'min

tom__420 said:

Hey shack is that an incandescent bulb in the back?

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no its a 23 W CFL mounted to the AG hood, check the grow, the mod is in the first page of the thread. first post in the thread...

Shackleford.R said:

Lurk's guide is the reason i have air stones in my res, and also the reason i added extra lights.

don't owe it all to him, but he knows sum'min about sum'min

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Just to rock the boat a little bit.
Adding extra light is pretty much always a good idea when using cfls.
However, I've found that airstones promote algae and pathogen growth in your water, and understand that there is a direct link between airstone use and occurances of root rot. You would probably be better suited to use H202 is an oxygenator and pathogen fighter. That is assuming you're not using organic (shudder) hydro nutes.

Shackleford.R said:

haha thanks bro. i couldn't leave, this thread kills WAAAYYY too much of my time..



they got the transition nutes today and 24 hour dark tomorrow, then 12/12 so i'm spot on in that regard.

but about tying them back where do you tie off to?? you're talking LST.. but how do i keep the stems where i want them on the AG? bend stems and tie off to the plant itself? or bend the stem and tape down the tie to the AG grow surface?

(this is me not claiming to know something and asking haha )

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I just tie off from the little hopper.. craddle... you know the little pastic frame that the plug goes in...

Just make a hook and catch the edge... then bring whatever branch you want to lower and loop the twisty tie around it.....

Most of the time just the force of the wire is enough... no need to re-tie like a string... just bend the wire as you need...

lurkmaster said:

I wouldn't go that far, but I have given them a little bit of guidance along the way.

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OK my bad.. guidance is a better word...

Shackleford.R said:

Lurk's guide is the reason i have air stones in my res, and also the reason i added extra lights.

don't owe it all to him, but he knows sum'min about sum'min

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Sure...

He seems like one of the smart ones here...

But being smart can also be a barrier sometimes...

I have never claimed he knows nothing...

I simply believe that he believes that he has more experience than he actually does...

Reading about something gives you the information...

But mere information is not knowledge...

You need to apply that information in order to obtain experience...

Lurk has just failed to show us the applied version of what he says...

It's very different to tell someone to do something cause you've seen it before ..than if you have actually done it and FINISHED IT...

How can Lurk tell anyone how to improve their yields (just an example) if hes is the first to admit he does not have multiple harvests to compare??

I know I sound like an ass right now...

I'm not trying to start shit again.. I swear...

SpruceZeus said:

Just to rock the boat a little bit.
Adding extra light is pretty much always a good idea when using cfls.
However, I've found that airstones promote algae and pathogen growth in your water, and understand that there is a direct link between airstone use and occurances of root rot. You would probably be better suited to use H202 is an oxygenator and pathogen fighter. That is assuming you're not using organic (shudder) hydro nutes.

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You really want to get this technical here...??

Pretty soon we'll be told to PYTH OFF...

SpruceZeus said:

Just to rock the boat a little bit.
Adding extra light is pretty much always a good idea when using cfls.
However, I've found that airstones promote algae and pathogen growth in your water, and understand that there is a direct link between airstone use and occurances of root rot. You would probably be better suited to use H202 is an oxygenator and pathogen fighter. That is assuming you're not using organic (shudder) hydro nutes.

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YEAH THEY'RE ORGANIC

why anti-organics in hydro? i've heard/read about H2O2 with organics and how its horrible, so i'm not using H2O2. but thats not my question... question is why don't you like organic nutes??

im using them for the mother i'm flowering right now and she seems to LOVE it, looks healthy, hairs are standing tall and straight. i think i prefer it to my chemical nutes.

by the way, air stones promoting algae growth??? this may not be applicable to this topic (growing bud) everything i know about algae and moving water, is that the agitation prevents bacteria and algae growth. the water has to be still and not moving for bacteria/algae to develop.

and how do we explain all the successful DWC and bubbleponic harvests we see and read about here on RIU and elsewhere?

two questions...

why are airstones bad?

why are organic hydro nutes bad?

GO!

GypsyBush said:

Sure...

He seems like one of the smart ones here...

But being smart can also be a barrier sometimes...

I have never claimed he knows nothing...

I simply believe that he believes that he has more experience than he actually does...

Reading about something gives you the information...

But mere information is not knowledge...

You need to apply that information in order to obtain experience...

Lurk has just failed to show us the applied version of what he says...

It's very different to tell someone to do something cause you've seen it before ..than if you have actually done it and FINISHED IT...

How can Lurk tell anyone how to improve their yields (just an example) if hes is the first to admit he does not have multiple harvests to compare??

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You're such a fucking diplomat. You and your crazy Gypsy talk.

SpruceZeus said:

I hate to keep flinging shit at you, but you just keep presenting it in such nice little piles. As we move further into the future, you prove yourself a very immature and out of touch with reality individual.

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Don't you get it man?

By learning exactly what can go wrong, I know what is right, and what DOES work.

I have found trial and error to be the best teacher, throughout my entire life. That is how I have always learned things.

Everything that I am passionate about I have gained all of that expertise and knowledge on my own accord without help from anyone else.


I am not a teacher, I only share my knowledge and point people in the right direction.



There are 1 million and 1 ways to grow marijuana.

The point is not to teach people a specific grow that method is the ultimate best..

Its to point them in the right direction so they can figure it out on their own and really understand instead of just blindly believing some theory, those people will really know whats going on, as opposed to someone who just does something because someone told them to and nothing bad happens.

Just because nothing bad happens or it doesn't hurt it doesn't mean its helping it.