Hand feed vs hydro

dwood8165

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I have never had a hermie. But now this is the 2nd time I've heard someone say about alternating branches......and maturity. I was always under the impression that they stagger on branches and main stems stay perpendicular. At least that's from my experence and books I read a long time ago. Do you have any info on that?
yes, but i need to dig it out. but you can take my word on it until i find the information. I have done this since I germinated my first seed. It is all I know i read it in several books years ago. but i will post it
I do not use switch or anything else during this process. I want to see the true plant ( stable genetics or stabilizing the genetics)
PS. i have never had a hermie either, knock on wood
 

DarkWeb

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Ive never grown in soil and im doing just fine =)
I started in soil but went hydro for years. And have been using soil because I can loose power for a while..........last year was over a week. I have recently set up my flood and drain table again but only have one pot plant and a few jalapeños.......if the power goes out I'm not worried.
 

DarkWeb

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yes, but i need to dig it out. but you can take my word on it until i find the information. I have done this since I germinated my first seed. It is all I know i read it in several books years ago. but i will post it
Great I want to see it......I don't take anyone's word for it sorry man don't take it personal. I don't mind being wrong and always looking to learn.
 

Innob

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I've been in the same boat and believe that it will definitely increase yield in coco.
Coco is hard to over water and multiple automated feedings will ensure the plant is getting what it needs when it needs it.

I think the only thing you should be thinking about is the type of system you are going to move to.
 

fragileassassin

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I started in soil but went hydro for years. And have been using soil because I can loose power for a while..........last year was over a week. I have recently set up my flood and drain table again but only have one pot plant and a few jalapeños.......if the power goes out I'm not worried.
I am very lucky and seem to have very reliable city power. Weve only had I think 2 unplanned outages in the 2 years ive been here and both were only a few hours. Longest was an announced 12 hour I think.
We dont even get the random half second cut outs like my last city did, its pretty nice.
 

DarkWeb

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I am very lucky and seem to have very reliable city power. Weve only had I think 2 unplanned outages in the 2 years ive been here and both were only a few hours. Longest was an announced 12 hour I think.
We dont even get the random half second cut outs like my last city did, its pretty nice.
Nice I miss that.....I lost some plants years ago when I first moved and figured soil was safer. I have done some dwc again and like I said my f&d table is set up again........just leary
 

Thundercat

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Thanks :) it’s my third grow now but the first time I’ve grown in coco soil and already prefer it

the bud was chopped out last night and has had about 12 hours drying at 20degrees and 50%rh
Unfortunately the plant started to get a little bud rot due to humidity levels recently (it’s been horrible and wet and my intake takes fresh air in)
It was still around 20% amber trichomes though
I’ve got a few more still going so will give them some extra time and see how it goes

I was told that letting them flower too long can make the high more of a knockout than energetic? I’m an artist by trade so smoke to get inspiration so don’t want anything that’s gonna out me to sleep too easily lol
Ignore the whole chop early for energetic high or late for couchlock stuff. The differences are mostly strain specific, not harvest specific. If you chop early you get LESS high, and it doesn’t last as long. If you chop when the plant is actually ripe you get MORE high and it lasts longer. You will not over ripen the plant to the point it will be degrading or negatively effect the high. It won’t happen.

If that bud was only dry for 12 hours I feel safe saying it was early. But you also know you had mold issues, and that is understandable. I had a strain that I always fought mold on but it was dank so I tried to work with it. Getting your environment controlled better helps a lot in being able to get these plants all the way to completion.

P.s in your 14 years what’s the best yield per plant?
Well I stopped regularly weighing plants many years ago. I’ve had some 4ish oz plants over the years, but for the last 10 years specifically I ran a SOG with 40+ plants in a 4x4 space. I grew single cola clones that vegged for 1-2 weeks before getting flowered at about 7-8 inches tall. They finished up between 20-30 inches tall depending on strain. My best strains would average 25-30 grams per plant. The lower yielding strains were 18-20g per plant. Multiply that by 40-48 plants and you got my average yields for a 4x4 space in a 14ish week period start to finish.
 

DarkWeb

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Ignore the whole chop early for energetic high or late for couchlock stuff. The differences are mostly strain specific, not harvest specific. If you chop early you get LESS high, and it doesn’t last as long. If you chop when the plant is actually ripe you get MORE high and it lasts longer. You will not over ripen the plant to the point it will be degrading or negatively effect the high. It won’t happen.

If that bud was only dry for 12 hours I feel safe saying it was early. But you also know you had mold issues, and that is understandable. I had a strain that I always fought mold on but it was dank so I tried to work with it. Getting your environment controlled better helps a lot in being able to get these plants all the way to completion.



Well I stopped regularly weighing plants many years ago. I’ve had some 4ish oz plants over the years, but for the last 10 years specifically I ran a SOG with 40+ plants in a 4x4 space. I grew single cola clones that vegged for 1-2 weeks before getting flowered at about 7-8 inches tall. They finished up between 20-30 inches tall depending on strain. My best strains would average 25-30 grams per plant. The lower yielding strains were 18-20g per plant. Multiply that by 40-48 plants and you got my average yields for a 4x4 space in a 14ish week period start to finish.
48 in a 4x4?
 

dwood8165

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I have never had a hermie. But now this is the 2nd time I've heard someone say about alternating branches......and maturity. I was always under the impression that they stagger on branches and main stems stay perpendicular. At least that's from my experence and books I read a long time ago. Do you have any info on that?
Great I want to see it......I don't take anyone's word for it sorry man don't take it personal. I don't mind being wrong and always looking to learn.
 

DarkWeb

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Awesome! That was jorge cervantes right? I had a few of his other books but not that one. But I'm also looking at a plant that has 7 perpendicular nodes.......and I plant deep so that top node is really probably node 9 or 10. Any branching has nodes staggered. Even on the first few branches they are staggered........those developed a long time ago. I think the stagger is there when young just not as noticeable. When it gets bigger you see it because it's exaggerated.
 

dwood8165

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your are right that is his book. the name is in the top corner. when i first read that i started looking for it after i pop seeds. it always trips me out to see that happen. i generally let the plant grow until that happens. but if they get to big i will go four or five nodes down and cut. then it tends to happen quicker.
 
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