Hans Panel 56w triband led(65w total)>VS<Indagro 100 full spec induction(105w)+FIGHT!

PetFlora

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Simple solution is two vertical poles (with feet) to stabilize on the floor. Anything from heavy Construction Paper, HD Al foil...
 

PSUAGRO.

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IM subbed too!
Nice experiment PSU. Im still wating for Hans to send me my panel... i guess there's a lot of people doing the same...
I was wondering if you are running the Growth phase for seedlings with 28watts... does the other panel have different growth phases too?
The wait should be worth it/ did you buy two?......I would start off with growth phase and at no lower than 15 inches/ I'm running full power because i hate switching jumper phases and want to keep it close to the indagrow watts(which isn't dimmable/ that should be their next improvement IMO/)......You should be getting the new improved panel which has a REAL phase switch and better blue diodes (cree xt-e).....just watch your plant's signs grower....

Simple solution is two vertical poles (with feet) to stabilize on the floor. Anything from heavy Construction Paper, HD Al foil...
Probably just will hang some orca from the reflectors......I may just keep the free standing partition and move it as needed......


I got good news and Bad news.........Good news is I got laid:P Bad news is I couldn't check on the plants while she was here(slept over!)...temps topped at 85f and the medium dried out .....don't think I'll save all of them....blah......you'll see on the pics:

Inda-gro kids:

003.jpg004.jpg....<<<well the two seeds that have popped through with their hats on have stalled, misted the dry medium and will hope for the best...

Hans panel kids:
006.jpg005.jpg.....no leaning whatsoever towards the Inda-gro and the last seed also broke through but has the same issues as the above ones...... maybe I should have babysat them:p .....will find out soon how many survive......5/5 germ rate and major grower error already..

001.jpg007.jpg.....be safe and happy growing RIU

edit.......btw RIU's pic system sucks.......
 

PSUAGRO.

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slept over huh? this sounds serious
Nah :)........just don't like people driving home drunk and I don't tell/show ANYONE my small grow..........

May have to play doctor tonight......Dried out their tap roots and they have no more energy too shed their partially opened shells==death....so I have no choice but to remove them manually (not recommended) to give them a chance......one is already done IMO.......will update tomorrow....
 

IlovePlants

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All is well that ends well. As long as you learn something it's at least a changing experience. Hope they recover.
Sincerely,
ILovePlants
 

guod

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edit.......btw RIU's pic system sucks.......
my workaround:
set the cursor behind the last char in a line... insert image. :-D
( minimum is 1 char; a space will not work )
now try the same in an new empty line.:cuss:

testet with firefox
 

PetFlora

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Nah :)........just don't like people driving home drunk and I don't tell/show ANYONE my small grow..........

May have to play doctor tonight......Dried out their tap roots and they have no more energy too shed their partially opened shells==death....so I have no choice but to remove them manually (not recommended) to give them a chance......one is already done IMO.......will update tomorrow....
Try covering with small clear cups or anything clear that is small in size. Moisten it as needed to create humid environment
 

PSUAGRO.

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All is well that ends well. As long as you learn something it's at least a changing experience. Hope they recover.
Sincerely,
ILovePlants
Sorry friend......I was careless and foolishly didn't consider what adding an extra 100w(indagro) would do to a sealed room(it's been very warm here for Oct last couple of days)........thanks for the FRESH seeds, they all germed!!! my mistake....

my workaround:
set the cursor behind the last char in a line... insert image. :-D
( minimum is 1 char; a space will not work )
now try the same in an new empty line.:cuss:

testet with firefox
Thank for the info

Try covering with small clear cups or anything clear that is small in size. Moisten it as needed to create humid environment
They have been under the cups for days.............the slight misting and the subsequent non-supervision for 20hrs(85+f) fucked them........thanks for the help though..



Alright pulled off all the seed coats and carefully opened the cotyledons (leaf set) on the two....third's tap root was dried up beyond recovery(RIP)

Inda-gro kids:
004.jpg005.jpg.....misted the stressed baby again(hit 93f as a high last night!).....I have an ass-load of perlite in this mix....drying up fast

Hans panel kids:
002.jpg003.jpg<<<well no shit! the seedling started to lean towards the Inda-gro(around 35hrs)....guess they don't like the triband monochromatic led spectrum.. This I will say from seeing it personally, if I would buy an led panel today it would have to contain white leds in it....how many??/ which ones??? IDK ill let SDS figure that out:P.....Still question if they would lean away from a CMH bulb, but obviously the Inda-gro is doing something right here......The partition is back up! confirmed their preference....

The two stressed kids will get another day under my care to see if they make it.....If not I'll start soaking a couple of Anubis(fem) seeds....

007.jpg001.jpg006.jpg .....be safe and happy growing
 

PetFlora

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I hope she was worth the lost seeds. Probably not from Meesheegan. Can't be co-mingling with the enemy. Right?

You wouldn't of had this problem if you grew in hydro
:fire:
 

PetFlora

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I hope she was worth the lost seeds. I'm guessing she was not from Meesheegan. Can't be co-mingling with the enemy. Right?

You wouldn't of had this problem if you grew in hydro
:fire:
 

puffenuff

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Love the pics man. That indagro really shines in that room. even with the partition up, it still leaks around to the leds' sides. what are the recommended coverages of each of them? Glad to see the seedlings on track, got some crazy temps over your way. they always called this time of year the indian summer. Interesting to hear about leaning toward the indagro. Mine did the same thing with my apache. but I wonder if it's because of the white light, or because of the intensities? Keep it up, are these auto seeds or photoperiod?
 

PSUAGRO.

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I hope she was worth the lost seeds. Probably not from Meesheegan. Can't be co-mingling with the enemy. Right?

You wouldn't of had this problem if you grew in hydro
:fire:
No comment on the first part:)^^^ If she was a hottie from Michigan, I could give two shits about my PSU loyalty...... I already embarrassed my University's great Ag dept. enough by having less than a 50% survival rate ATM :P ......NO, I never run hydro in a stealth apt complex grow(almost got popped for it some time ago) .....closest thing I would do in the future is to use a Bluemat system....http://www.blumat.at/automatic-watering-system.php << this may be good for Puffenuff also.....but then wtf are we gonna do with all our extra free time??..lol

Love the pics man. That indagro really shines in that room. even with the partition up, it still leaks around to the leds' sides. what are the recommended coverages of each of them? Glad to see the seedlings on track, got some crazy temps over your way. they always called this time of year the indian summer. Interesting to hear about leaning toward the indagro. Mine did the same thing with my apache. but I wonder if it's because of the white light, or because of the intensities? Keep it up, are these auto seeds or photoperiod?
Thanks for bringing up my flawed partition brother puff/ha...........Yeah it leaks a little, but it helps with the air circulation in the room, best I can do at the moment/ need that air flowing for my unseasonable temps.......The recommended coverage for both is around 2x2 (hans is a little smaller 20"x24"inches).....the seedling that leaned didn't show intensity issues IMO, no canoeing/taco/ leaf edge stress, but my experience with it comes from hid not led's, so you may also be right.
The Cheese dreams are photos(it's been back crossed w an auto though) and the PS Anubis fem are also photos .....Thanks for the rep/ still can't rep you back! bullshit..

The two severely stressed kids are not worth saving/ I tried, but they would be permanently stunted from the initial shock.....so two anubis seeds are soaking for this grow..

Inda-gro kid:
002.jpg......looking good for about three days veg.......

Hans panel kid:
001.jpg....straightened out and also looks fine to me........mj WILL adapt to most light sources...

003.jpg004.jpg.......Gonna slow down the cheese dream's growth rates(less water & not raising the low rh) as we wait for the bitchy sisters to germ/ 24-0 light schedule..........be safe and happy growing
 

PSUAGRO.

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Funny answer. thanks for the Blumat link. I had read where it was mentioned, but had no clue
Yeah I've seen enough good growers rock these things that I'm willing to bite......Just make sure you buy the REAL ones== Troph Blumat



Alright a little update on my bitchy comp grow....The two anubis fem seeds popped and we begin the countdown... the other two cheese dreams are 4 and a half days ahead..

Inda-gro kids:

007.jpg010.jpg008.jpg.....nice and healthy/ good growth.... lowered the panel to ten inches....set it and forget it/easy

Hans panel kids:

005.jpg009.jpg006.jpg.....also great growth/little top heavy from stem elongation and not receiving enough air movement due to the partition.....4 460nm cree xp-e/2 660nm lumiled rebels/ 27 630nm cree xp-e firing away at full blast:) this spectrum phase should work straight through.....maybe


001.jpg002.jpg003.jpg004.jpg011.jpg.....gonna move the partition a little to help with the flow from the fan/also raising the RH with a bucket of water..............24/0 light schedule, hans panel at 18inches and the Inda at 10inches......be safe and happy growing
 

guod

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Just make sure you buy the REAL ones== Troph Blumat

must be an american copy...;-)

the real one is Tropf ....
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dammed german
 

cifer

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Tropfblumat ist geil, also nichts hier damned german....ich weiß ihr denkt wir fressen nur sauerkraut und saufen den ganzen Tah Bier, womit ihr zum Teil recht habt...aber dont forget pipes made in germany...they smoke gut :)
 

PSUAGRO.

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must be an american copy...;-)

the real one is Tropf ....
..................................
dammed german
You spelled damned wrong^^........you started it;-)

Subbed for sure! Cant wait to see how these lights compare :mrgreen:
Yeah should be interesting to see what happens......happy to have you along for the ride:)

Tropfblumat ist geil, also nichts hier damned german....ich weiß ihr denkt wir fressen nur sauerkraut und saufen den ganzen Tah Bier, womit ihr zum Teil recht habt...aber dont forget pipes made in germany...they smoke gut :)
Ah so you really like the tropf also/ any pics??.........no we don't all think that you just eat sauerkraut and drink beer!/nice diet though.....Meine mutter ist von Hameln, aber mein deutch ist nicht ser gut....lol/ I tried
 

guod

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"damned german language" was more my intention.. Teifi no'ma!

also the blumat is from austria

Blumat Weninger GmbH & Co KG
Hag 7
A 6410 Telfs
Tirol
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@PSU you need at least 3 of them per plant for evenly irrigation. tested it some years ago in 4l pots... LST-grow. also count in one week for fine tuning.


ich weiß ihr denkt wir fressen nur sauerkraut und saufen den ganzen Tah Bier, womit ihr zum Teil recht habt.
That´s only big in one part of germany
i prefer an other nice diet, the kale tour in lower saxony (around Bremen) kale, fat pork, wurst(sausages), pils beer and schnapps(Korn):hump:...silly games and potatos included

und ein letzter scherz; pfeifen haben wir hier selber genug, if you know what i mean!
 
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