Hans Panel 56w triband led(65w total)>VS<Indagro 100 full spec induction(105w)+FIGHT!

guod said:

"damned german language" was more my intention.. Teifi no'ma!

also the blumat is from austria

Blumat Weninger GmbH & Co KG
Hag 7
A 6410 Telfs
Tirol
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@PSU you need at least 3 of them per plant for evenly irrigation. tested it some years ago in 4l pots... LST-grow. also count in one week for fine tuning.




That´s only big in one part of germany
i prefer an other nice diet, the kale tour in lower saxony (around Bremen) kale, fat pork, wurst(sausages), pils beer and schnapps(Korn)...silly games and potatos included

und ein letzter scherz; pfeifen haben wir hier selber genug, if you know what i mean!

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Really?? 3 blumats for a 2 gallon pot.....the hell with all that tubing!! ill stick to hand watering then...........I use papers, so your joke is meaningless to me

ironfox said:

Ich bin in Bayern! ahahahhaha. So Geil!

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No shit........Damned Germans / ha.......Don't think your team is making it to the Champions league finals again......Sorry.....my money is on Paris



"Little" update.........big kids are ILP's cheesedreams(reg) and little kids are PS's anubis (fem)

Inda-gro kids: 105watts

@ 7 days....... @2 days.........all good, still waiting for the high peatmoss mix to mess with them...first full watering I'll check the soil's ph to confirm my fears


Hans panel kids: 65watts

....@7 days........@2 days.......pretty good all around, figured the high red ratio(full flower phase) would show more stretch than this(only four blue diodes).....the internode spacing has been tight..


......lowering the light schedule to 21/3 as of today....panel heights are staying at 18inches(hans) and 10 inches(inda) respectively/ no reason to mess with it..........all have been misted/lightly watered with plain aerated tap......be safe and happy growing..

Looking Awsome Brother Psuagro Im Digging The Stem In Pic 6

hahaha wie sie hier alle Deutsch sprechen...sind wohl auch ein paar Düttsche hier unterwegs ...u did great psuagro :=) So whos going to visit me in Hamburg to share my lovely northern outdoor ganja and some nice Fisch from the Fischmarkt including a nice visit in the red light district? XD Sorry for spam...but this year i used blumat xl without the dripper system and it worked brilliant in the time ive been on vacation (3 weeks)...so yeah the blumat xl works also good for potted plants outdoors Hummel Hummel...

The Dawg said:

Looking Awsome Brother Psuagro Im Digging The Stem In Pic 6

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agreed, mine always hang over till they get a little older! and subbed, even though im not sure how, really want to see an inda gro in action, only reason i didnt invest is because there was so little out there about them, good luck!

Damn!! They are growing faster than mine with 153W CFLs

I've read that to achieve a higher female to male ratio with reg seed that during the 3-4 week veg there should be no stress, also a predominately blue light , the led looks more red. the article I read said that under red lighting you'll have a higher male to female ratio.dunno how much truth there is to this but it prompted me to go out and buy a kessil blue to supplement in clone/seedling area. it would seem if there is any truth/fact to this article that the predominately red panel (although maybe it's even color ratio, hard to tell ) will pop out males. The article states sex isn't predetermined and gender is influenced by environment. again, I don't have any first hand experience or the education to know if this is true but I'm def going to find out.

The Dawg said:

Looking Awsome Brother Psuagro Im Digging The Stem In Pic 6

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thanks brother Dawg........those anubis girls are a little slow right now

cifer said:

hahaha wie sie hier alle Deutsch sprechen...sind wohl auch ein paar Düttsche hier unterwegs ...u did great psuagro :=) So whos going to visit me in Hamburg to share my lovely northern outdoor ganja and some nice Fisch from the Fischmarkt including a nice visit in the red light district? XD Sorry for spam...but this year i used blumat xl without the dripper system and it worked brilliant in the time ive been on vacation (3 weeks)...so yeah the blumat xl works also good for potted plants outdoors Hummel Hummel...

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Hmm ....yeah that blumat XL is the one I wanted , but I cannot find an american distributor for that specific model......Did you run ferts/additives through it??? some say it will clog the ceramic cone....only straight water!.....but the blumat's website says you can..Always loved smoking some outdoor girls/lucky you..

Jennylasting said:

agreed, mine always hang over till they get a little older! and subbed, even though im not sure how, really want to see an inda gro in action, only reason i didnt invest is because there was so little out there about them, good luck!

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Well will see what the Inda-gro does...........so far/so good.......grab a chair

ironfox said:

Damn!! They are growing faster than mine with 153W CFLs

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That's strain related friend........and general watering habits have a big affect on growth rates/ let it dry out!! ha ....

update.....................................cheesedreams(big kids) and anubis(fem)(small kiddies)

Inda-gro kids (105watts):
.@ 9 days veg.......@ 4 days .....slow growth on these anubis bitches

Hans panel kids (65watts):

...@9 days....whacky wind symptoms.... @ 4 days....yeah both Anubis girls have been slightly over-watered and it's slowed them up....no biggie

....21/3 light schedule....................be safe and happy growing

Hows the heat on the inda-gro. Would it heat up a room overtime, like a mh?
Great grow so far by the way.

no i didnt use fertilizer cause i was afraid of that...but i think u can use it but no organic!?

dbkick said:

I've read that to achieve a higher female to male ratio with reg seed that during the 3-4 week veg there should be no stress, also a predominately blue light , the led looks more red. the article I read said that under red lighting you'll have a higher male to female ratio.dunno how much truth there is to this but it prompted me to go out and buy a kessil blue to supplement in clone/seedling area. it would seem if there is any truth/fact to this article that the predominately red panel (although maybe it's even color ratio, hard to tell ) will pop out males. The article states sex isn't predetermined and gender is influenced by environment. again, I don't have any first hand experience or the education to know if this is true but I'm def going to find out.

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I think you are correct that environment has "some" effect the M/F ratio........I don't believe that isn't predetermined at all though.....who knows, but testing my hunch is out the window now cause I killed 3/5 of the Reg seeds....

cifer said:

no i didnt use fertilizer cause i was afraid of that...but i think u can use it but no organic!?

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So straight water it is then........still can't find the XL anywhere in the states

@swiftflow.....Yeah the inda-gro par 100(105w) will "heat up" the room exactly the same as 105watts=hps/mh/cfl/t5/t8/t12/led/etc. a watt is a watt, can't ignore the first law of thermodynamics .........but it's specific heat "throw" is on par with my t5 fixtures(5-6inches) from the bulb.....


Now that Bitchy hurricane Sandy is outta my way!(hope your doing alright Amax)....ill post a little update..

Big kids are ILP's cheesedreams(reg)12days---Little kids are PS anubis(fem)7days..


Inda-gro kids (105watts):

...@12 days......@7days!!!.....<<<snails pace on these anubis bitches...whatever


Hans panel kids (65watts):

...@12 days @7days lol................IDK what's going on with the anibis's.. PS's description says fast veg/heavy yielder .....well i see the complete opposite ATM




Nothing changed........will lower the light schedule tomorrow to 20/4..............be safe!! and happy growing RIU

Nice....
Very nice....

Although it's not a matter of direct comparison..
Have a look at 12th day of these wild landstrains ...
There are some differences...

Well ..Not great...But...

Considering the 65 Watts of high quality (actinic ) leds from Hans's panel ..
And the 105 Watts of Induction....

Versus 66 Watts of cheapos.....

Not mentioning all these to underestimate either the lights ...(Led + Induction )..
Just to make a tiny point....
(Well,actually ,more than one..Regarding multiple panels,1Watters,whites,green,farred,660nm,ect....)
...
Astir panels ,do not seem to be much in difference (at vegging ) with other " renown " lights...
..
Anyway...
Subbed...
I wanna see how flowering ,will end up ,for both the lights chosen ..
Keep up the good work,brother Psuagro..

Looking great! You're going to be happy with those Cheese Dreams. Crossing my fingers that they're girls !
Best of luck,
ILovePlants

stardustsailor said:

Nice....
Very nice....

Although it's not a matter of direct comparison..
Have a look at 12th day of these wild landstrains ...
There are some differences...

Well ..Not great...But...

Considering the 65 Watts of high quality (actinic ) leds from Hans's panel ..
And the 105 Watts of Induction....

Versus 66 Watts of cheapos.....

Not mentioning all these to underestimate either the lights ...(Led + Induction )..
Just to make a tiny point....
(Well,actually ,more than one..Regarding multiple panels,1Watters,whites,green,farred,660nm,ect....)
...
Astir panels ,do not seem to be much in difference (at vegging ) with other " renown " lights...
..
Anyway...
Subbed...
I wanna see how flowering ,will end up ,for both the lights chosen ..
Keep up the good work,brother Psuagro..

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TY SDS........... your panels are doing a hell of a job with the "cheapo" 1watt leds.....are you thinking about offering dimmable drivers as an option once the site is up???? Astir and Guod panels are becoming "renown" lights around here as-well from the results they've shown

IlovePlants said:

Looking great! You're going to be happy with those Cheese Dreams. Crossing my fingers that they're girls !
Best of luck,
ILovePlants

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Your kids have been nothing but well behaved, real easy to grow.............the other two, NOT so much/blah...


Update with all natural pics...........better to see the comparisons::::

Big kids are ILP's cheese dreams(reg) @ 14 days of veg/////// little bastard kids are PS's Anubis (fem) @ 9 days of veg


Inda-gro kids(105w):

@14days<<@9days


Hans panel kids (65w):

@14days...@ 9 days.............STILL very slow growth and vigor with the anubis girls, they may push back my flip date.....all environmental factors are in acceptable ranges, so ill just wait and see.

.....20/4 light schedule/ hans @ 18 inches above canopy, inda @ 10 inches.......................be safe and happy growing

PSUAGRO. said:

TY SDS........... your panels are doing a hell of a job with the "cheapo" 1watt leds.....are you thinking about offering dimmable drivers as an option once the site is up???? Astir and Guod panels are becoming "renown" lights around here as-well from the results they've shown



Your kids have been nothing but well behaved, real easy to grow.............the other two, NOT so much/blah...


Update with all natural pics...........better to see the comparisons::::

Big kids are ILP's cheese dreams(reg) @ 14 days of veg/////// little bastard kids are PS's Anubis (fem) @ 9 days of veg


Inda-gro kids(105w):

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Hans panel kids (65w):

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Picture 1: My new desktop. lookin purty psuagro

hans @ 18 inches with 56W
inda @ 10 inches with 110W

double the distance at half the power... that´s not fair...

...but hans panel can handle this handycap as i see

stay with the natural pics, PSU

Keep up the good work! Looking nice and healthy!

i don't get how that hans panel is working so well, cant wait to see it flower, PSUARGO you plants are off to a really good start, i actually think my higher watt led slowed the growth of my seedling's as ive been informed that the type of nm's used slow down growth if in too high an abundance in seedling stage, kinda fries them, so for a third of the watts you have a better result than me (other factors aside), will be really interested to see this one finish! good work

Eager for the results! Thinking of buying one of Hans' panels.

Nice homie!
i was so close on buying one of those full spectrum lights but decided to hold Off.
I just found out indagrow is literally couple blocks from my home I might go check them out.
Also Can't wait till tommorow , ima go to the indoor garden expo in long beach and check out all the latest gear!!!
much love!