Voidling
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Real lettuce and greens. The rails may be better/cost effective for bigger plants. That tray maybe keep real small sog
Harvest a Pound Every Three Weeks!
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StinkBud
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This time of year many home improvement stores stop selling Summer type products. Most people don't replace fence posts in the middle of Winter. You may have to shop around a little to find some in stock.
OutofLEDCloset
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Epic thread Stink. Found your videos and I'm impressed. Couldnt hear but awesome anyhow. I havent read entire thread. Didnt read War and Peace either, but I did use the cliff notes. Theres this microfog thats supposed to be OK with beneficials. https://www.monstergardens.com/Growing-Accessories/Spraying-and-Watering?product_id=3383 Any thoughts on benefits of unit? Do you still use the misters?
I'mSimplyStoned
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Thank. You. Stinkbud.
https://www.rollitup.org/t/harvest-a-pound-every-three-weeks.116859/
Gotta cut my holes, and made a set on scrog that's easily removed. Excuse my 12/12 from clone trials there soaking up the sun from my shoelace rigged cardboard /mylar reflector lol
https://www.rollitup.org/t/harvest-a-pound-every-three-weeks.116859/
Gotta cut my holes, and made a set on scrog that's easily removed. Excuse my 12/12 from clone trials there soaking up the sun from my shoelace rigged cardboard /mylar reflector lol
Carolina Dream'n
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Lol too funny
Boosted 95z
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Buying all of my stuff to do this today, we can't wait. On a side note, we've made and gave away medicated hard candies for one of our new dispensaries here in MI to help support the vets. We also donated food, and blankets. We haven't reaped any reward from Stink's methods yet, but soon we will!
Thanks everyone for making this what it is today.
Thanks everyone for making this what it is today.
I'mSimplyStoned
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I do not have sprayers within the rail system, will this still be okay? The net pots are 2" and have coir as a medium (because roots will not be directly in the water until they get older) but once they do, they'll be fine. Water is just pumped to high end of rails and free flows down back to the rez, I figured the humidity would keep the coir moist enough to keep the roots a reachin'. Any input on this?
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I'mSimplyStoned
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Well, if the fence post is 4" x 4" and the net pot is prolly right under 3" in depth, then I would have maybe an inch. Maybe I'll just buy two more fence caps and drill drain holes that would leave about 3/4" of water in the bottom. All I can think of honestly. By time the cups go in the roots outta be kinda long. I'm wautin for the roots to pop out the bottom before I put em in. Any other opinions?
StinkBud
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I'm with Voidling on this, if the roots can't touch the water they will dry up. On the other hand if there is enough of the roots touching water to keep the plant alive it will grow new roots and keep going. I'm sure you've seen what happens to roots when they are exposed to air. The roots don't die they just become more like a trunk or stem. Thin ones usually dry out but the thick ones keep on going.
Void is also right about the NFT part. In fact my rail system is mostly NFT. The sprayers aerate the water more but it's basically a classic NFT. My Aero/DWC is another example of mixing Aero with another type of growing method.
StinkBud
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I did quite a bit of experiments drilling super small holes, 1" apart, the whole length of the sprayer pipe. It actually works great! The thing is the small drill bits are a real pain in the ass to use. They break with the smallest amount of pressure. You'll be going along being real careful then space out and bam, another broken bit! Eventually you end up with a 1/4" long bit barely long enough to go through. Going to larger holes would help. They are less likely to plug up too.
If you do use holes instead of sprayers then angle them into the corners of the post. That way the water hits the sides and bounces everywhere.
Now that I think about it I may even try out a larger drill bit on my next project. I drawing up the plans right now for the new "Oregon Special" It's a 4-Plant unit designed to work within the new Oregon laws. This July it will be legal for anyone over 21yr to grow 4 plants. You can also have up to 8oz. at your home at any one time. Anyone over 21 can carry 1oz. How fucking cool is that!
StinkBud
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Happy New Year! It's hard to believe this thread is still going after all these years. I have something special I'm going to share with you for 2015. Starting this next July in Oregon it will be legal for anyone over 21 to grow 4 plants. I'm currently building the StinkBud Oregon Special Aero/NFT system. It's designed to fit in a space as small as a walk in closet and produce a pound of bud per light/system. My system is designed to use one light with 4 plants per system. Of course I'm going to use my medical card right now but this may very well be my last year getting one.
The Oregon Special
Feel free to join in on this grow. It will be a blast! I'll be taking you through the whole process from start to finish. This is going to be a budget grow with the goal being a perpetual grow harvesting every three weeks. For now we will keep the grow to just 2 lights. I'll be adding a new system every three weeks until I have all 3 systems up and running. I'll also have a cloner and veg unit running under some cheap fluorescent lights.
You have to start somewhere so get ready to party! First thing you want to do is order some seeds. Why seeds and not clones? There are a number of good reasons to start from seed. First off, if you are starting with a completely clean room, why not keep it that way? I can't tell you how many times I've seen people get powdery mildew from someone else's clones. Once you get PM it's a real bitch to get rid of, especially in a perpetual grow situation. There are also a lot of other creepy, crawly kind of shit that will ruin your life. Just saying the word ,"spider mite" sends shivers down my spine. Think of your grow room like a hospital surgery room. I'll tell you a little secret on how to get rid of spider mites and PM, don't get it...
Starting from seed also makes a lot of sense if you live in Bumfuck, USA. The average Joe may not have access to the latest and greatest clones but he can order some Kosher Kush seeds and blow everyone's mind. If you buy from a legit seed distributor you know what you're getting. My Kandy Kush will be the same as your Kandy Kush.
Seeds have "hybrid vigor". Google it, basically plants from seed are like you and me on steroids without the erectile dysfunction. They grow bigger and faster. Try it and see for yourself.
No one can disagree that it's nice have a huge selection to choose from. You can pick anything from heavy Indicas to fruity Sativas. Do you like orange, blueberry, mango? Are you into a high that makes you want to pull into the green room? You can find exactly what you desire with just a couple of mouse clicks.
Magical Fruit
I've had good luck with Attitude Seed Bank for ordering my seeds. They always arrive quickly with discrete packaging. There are a lot of good choices out there but it's still a hit and miss game. Starting off with a nice selection will increase your chance of success. It's also nice have a number of different strains just to mix it up a little. For example you may like a pure Indica to help you get to sleep at night but want something a little more energetic for the day. You may also want a high CBD strain for it's medicinal value.
Here is what I'm starting with:
Blue Cheese - I was amazed at how good this turned out last time. It's a huge producer with really dense nugs. It smells more like real blueberries than my last Blueberry plant! It's got the classic "duck feet" Indica leaves and the smoke will leave you firmly locked to the nearest couch
Kosher Kush - Cannabis Cup winner 3 years in a row for best Indica says it all. Last bean I bought didn't pop so I'm hoping this one will be magic. The last time I grew this it came out just like the OG Kush SFV cutting I used to have. It's hard to grow but tastes amazing. You take a hit and the flavor just keeps on going. If you've ever smoked some killer OG you know exactly what I'm talking about.
Tahoe OG - This one will be gown in soil until I figure out if its a male of female. If it's a male then I'll move it away from the girls and collect the pollen for a huge fucking pot plant orgy! Actually it will be pretty small cuz a couple of seeds is cool but a crop full of seeds is Third World. Okay, so about the Tahoe OG. I grew this last year and was amazed at how good the smoke was. It smelled and tasted more like a mango than the classic OG Kush. The nugs were huge round golf balls of joy. Let's keep our fingers crossed on this one. If is is a girl I'm going to shit my pants!
Critical Sensi Star - I'm not really going to hold my breath on this one. It was a free seed but it still has potential. I actually got this same strain free the last time I ordered seeds and it came out surprisingly good. It was the biggest producer and the buds came out sticky and sweet.
I also have a bunch of seeds from a Kandy Kush daddy. Some are a Blue Cheese mix and others are a back-cross. Basically it's like the Kandy Kush went and fucked it's self. I know that feeling! The thing with breeding is you never know what you're going to get. You might end up with the next Michael Jordan of pot plants but you may very well end up with his retarded cousin. Actually, I don't know if MJ has a retarded cousin but if he does I'm extremely sorry for that last comment. You know what, let's just changed that to mentally challenged cousin.
My buddy just flowered his Tahoe OG and it ended up a male. He's going to keep the male going and give me some pollen so I'll be doing some breeding with the strains I have. I'd love to see the Kosher Kush and Blue Cheese mixed with the Tahoe OG. If my Tahoe OG ends up a girl I'll be able to back cross the two and I should end up with something pretty stable.
Once you get the seeds the next step is popping them. Stay tuned for the birth of the Oregon Special. We'll be covering how to germinate the seedlings and where we go from there. This is going to be a great year! Welcome to 2015!!!
The Oregon Special
Feel free to join in on this grow. It will be a blast! I'll be taking you through the whole process from start to finish. This is going to be a budget grow with the goal being a perpetual grow harvesting every three weeks. For now we will keep the grow to just 2 lights. I'll be adding a new system every three weeks until I have all 3 systems up and running. I'll also have a cloner and veg unit running under some cheap fluorescent lights.
You have to start somewhere so get ready to party! First thing you want to do is order some seeds. Why seeds and not clones? There are a number of good reasons to start from seed. First off, if you are starting with a completely clean room, why not keep it that way? I can't tell you how many times I've seen people get powdery mildew from someone else's clones. Once you get PM it's a real bitch to get rid of, especially in a perpetual grow situation. There are also a lot of other creepy, crawly kind of shit that will ruin your life. Just saying the word ,"spider mite" sends shivers down my spine. Think of your grow room like a hospital surgery room. I'll tell you a little secret on how to get rid of spider mites and PM, don't get it...
Starting from seed also makes a lot of sense if you live in Bumfuck, USA. The average Joe may not have access to the latest and greatest clones but he can order some Kosher Kush seeds and blow everyone's mind. If you buy from a legit seed distributor you know what you're getting. My Kandy Kush will be the same as your Kandy Kush.
Seeds have "hybrid vigor". Google it, basically plants from seed are like you and me on steroids without the erectile dysfunction. They grow bigger and faster. Try it and see for yourself.
No one can disagree that it's nice have a huge selection to choose from. You can pick anything from heavy Indicas to fruity Sativas. Do you like orange, blueberry, mango? Are you into a high that makes you want to pull into the green room? You can find exactly what you desire with just a couple of mouse clicks.
Magical Fruit
I've had good luck with Attitude Seed Bank for ordering my seeds. They always arrive quickly with discrete packaging. There are a lot of good choices out there but it's still a hit and miss game. Starting off with a nice selection will increase your chance of success. It's also nice have a number of different strains just to mix it up a little. For example you may like a pure Indica to help you get to sleep at night but want something a little more energetic for the day. You may also want a high CBD strain for it's medicinal value.
Here is what I'm starting with:
Blue Cheese - I was amazed at how good this turned out last time. It's a huge producer with really dense nugs. It smells more like real blueberries than my last Blueberry plant! It's got the classic "duck feet" Indica leaves and the smoke will leave you firmly locked to the nearest couch
Kosher Kush - Cannabis Cup winner 3 years in a row for best Indica says it all. Last bean I bought didn't pop so I'm hoping this one will be magic. The last time I grew this it came out just like the OG Kush SFV cutting I used to have. It's hard to grow but tastes amazing. You take a hit and the flavor just keeps on going. If you've ever smoked some killer OG you know exactly what I'm talking about.
Tahoe OG - This one will be gown in soil until I figure out if its a male of female. If it's a male then I'll move it away from the girls and collect the pollen for a huge fucking pot plant orgy! Actually it will be pretty small cuz a couple of seeds is cool but a crop full of seeds is Third World. Okay, so about the Tahoe OG. I grew this last year and was amazed at how good the smoke was. It smelled and tasted more like a mango than the classic OG Kush. The nugs were huge round golf balls of joy. Let's keep our fingers crossed on this one. If is is a girl I'm going to shit my pants!
Critical Sensi Star - I'm not really going to hold my breath on this one. It was a free seed but it still has potential. I actually got this same strain free the last time I ordered seeds and it came out surprisingly good. It was the biggest producer and the buds came out sticky and sweet.
I also have a bunch of seeds from a Kandy Kush daddy. Some are a Blue Cheese mix and others are a back-cross. Basically it's like the Kandy Kush went and fucked it's self. I know that feeling! The thing with breeding is you never know what you're going to get. You might end up with the next Michael Jordan of pot plants but you may very well end up with his retarded cousin. Actually, I don't know if MJ has a retarded cousin but if he does I'm extremely sorry for that last comment. You know what, let's just changed that to mentally challenged cousin.
My buddy just flowered his Tahoe OG and it ended up a male. He's going to keep the male going and give me some pollen so I'll be doing some breeding with the strains I have. I'd love to see the Kosher Kush and Blue Cheese mixed with the Tahoe OG. If my Tahoe OG ends up a girl I'll be able to back cross the two and I should end up with something pretty stable.
Once you get the seeds the next step is popping them. Stay tuned for the birth of the Oregon Special. We'll be covering how to germinate the seedlings and where we go from there. This is going to be a great year! Welcome to 2015!!!
Cream corn Chris
New Member
Happy new year Stink! Read most of this sweet mega-thread I've become a 'spread the love' fan and getting ready to build a 8 x 12 room with your system in the basement. I got lots of questions for you since I didn't see them (or maybe I toked up and forgot) answered I figured I'd ask... I'll start with just a few to not be a piler-onner... 1. Seems like your newest veg unit is only one water container high instead of 2 in the original, you said the original was 2-high to allow for root length without pump interference, can u elaborate on what changed? 2. What's the best way to separate my room (I was thinking some sort of wall or barrier with 3 foot on one side and 9 on the other) to facilitate ease of maintenance etc.? What I mean is I want to share air-flow and any heating / cooling or humidity stuff between the two sides with no light getting thru. Perhaps just a wall with 2x2 Studs and the thick silver-coated foam board stuff, making sure air vents are light proof and such. OK last one for now - 3. Where will I place the heater/ac and dehumidifier should they be at the wall separating the veg/clone and flower areas? THANK U Mr. Stinkbud (and all u other nice folks too)!!!!!
StinkBud
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1. I still like the double veg unit. I was literally just thinking about that before I sat down! With the stacked set up the roots hang in the air and never soak in the water. I think they grow better that way and their seems to me less of a chance of root rot too. I have a new cloner that uses a cooler for the res. It could easily stack on any cheap plastic container. I'm going to stack the cloner on another container so both units will be the same height. I'll be putting both the cloner and veg unit under the same 4-blulb, 4ft. HO fluorescent light.
2. I'm separating my room using a grow tent. You can find them on Ebay really cheap. I'll be setting up a 120" x80"x78" tent holding 3 of my Oregon Specials. Stay tuned. You can buy a small tent for under $70. My second choice is Panda Film. Black on one side and white on the other. You can also frame up a wall if you know how.
3. Heater or AC unit needs to be in with the plants. All the rooms need to be under 78 degrees so you may need multiple AC units or a way to circulate the cool air to both sides.
StinkBud
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Don't you love getting new toys! I've set up a lot of new grows and it's always very exciting! This new project is a medical grow with a close friend of mine. I'll be using this setup to test the new StinkBud Oregon Special. I also have a new cloner that I'll be posting plans here shortly. I've finally found the perfect reservoir. I know it sounds simple but I've actually been looking for over 7 years. All the containers out there are designed to keep water out, not keep water in. So as soon as you fire up the sprayers the containers start to leak around the edges. I've used trash bags, rope calk, widow beads, foam...you name it and I've tried it.
So my new cloner uses a cooler. It works better than I ever would have expected. Res should stay nice and cool the best thing is NO LEAKS. And that's with no rope calk or silicon or any shit what's so ever! You can get coolers in just about any size too so just figure out how many clones you need and bust out.
This cloner holds 12 plants which is designed to keep the flower units filled with 4 plants. I may need to add another veg unit/stage if the plants don't get big enough. I'm planning on running a stacked veg unit this time. I think the roots stay healthier when they just hang in the air vs. sit in water. Even with air stones there's always a chance of root rot. Keeping them suspended has always worked the best for me.
I'll be running my cloner and veg unit under a new 4ft., 4-bulb T5 HO fluorescent light. It puts out 20K lumens without much heat. We'll be using a grow tent for the flower room. It should be interesting to see how the whole tent experience goes. I won't go into to to many details but because of construction issues we will need to move the operation from one room to another. Having a tent solves all of our security issues. Smell is always an factro and we have to keep the Stink in the Buds and out of the house. It's a lot easier to keep a small tent cool instead of the whole room. At some point the construction will be done and we will have a permanent solution but for now I'm really looking forward to trying out the new tent.
Here are some photos of the new cloner/veg unit.
So my new cloner uses a cooler. It works better than I ever would have expected. Res should stay nice and cool the best thing is NO LEAKS. And that's with no rope calk or silicon or any shit what's so ever! You can get coolers in just about any size too so just figure out how many clones you need and bust out.
This cloner holds 12 plants which is designed to keep the flower units filled with 4 plants. I may need to add another veg unit/stage if the plants don't get big enough. I'm planning on running a stacked veg unit this time. I think the roots stay healthier when they just hang in the air vs. sit in water. Even with air stones there's always a chance of root rot. Keeping them suspended has always worked the best for me.
I'll be running my cloner and veg unit under a new 4ft., 4-bulb T5 HO fluorescent light. It puts out 20K lumens without much heat. We'll be using a grow tent for the flower room. It should be interesting to see how the whole tent experience goes. I won't go into to to many details but because of construction issues we will need to move the operation from one room to another. Having a tent solves all of our security issues. Smell is always an factro and we have to keep the Stink in the Buds and out of the house. It's a lot easier to keep a small tent cool instead of the whole room. At some point the construction will be done and we will have a permanent solution but for now I'm really looking forward to trying out the new tent.
Here are some photos of the new cloner/veg unit.