Harvest every 5 weeks about 3 pounds, hydro ebb & flow, 3 tent/chamber system.

I run my current setup for 1 year, without any problems. Just a regular grow with a mother/clones tent and the ebb & flow table.
With this i can harvest about every 13 weeks, was using mostly sativa hybrids in the past.

With the inclusion of a second flowering tent, as mentioned, and mostly indicas, i should be able to harvest about 2,5x a year.

And the power usage will be just a bit more, around 100 to 200 watts more than atm.
Because i will use 2x quantums around 400 W instead of 2x HPS 600 W. And adding 2x 200 w quantums for the second tent.
 
One must make a list of what one would try to achieve at what costs.
Make the list and also write down what to avoid.

Perpetual can be nice, but you have to have everything dialed in. There is not much room for mistakes.
If your clones die, you're fucked up. If your mother dies, your fucked up. At least for the coming weeks.

For a grower with not much experience and who wants to do a small grow (less then 2.000 Watt is a small grow for me) I would just do a normal grow. Or perhaps split up your rooms in 2, so you can harvest room 1 in week 5 and room 2 in week 10.
That way it makes more sense to keep your motherplant. It also gives you plenty of rest.
But it will make it also more expensive because you have to have to 2 filters, 2 fans, 2 watergiving systems, 2 of everything.
1 room is easier to handle.
 
Chesspoker84 said:
I run my current setup for 1 year, without any problems. Just a regular grow with a mother/clones tent and the ebb & flow table.
With this i can harvest about every 13 weeks, was using mostly sativa hybrids in the past.

With the inclusion of a second flowering tent, as mentioned, and mostly indicas, i should be able to harvest about 2,5x a year.

And the power usage will be just a bit more, around 100 to 200 watts more than atm.
Because i will use 2x quantums around 400 W instead of 2x HPS 600 W. And adding 2x 200 w quantums for the second tent.
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Yeah here in new zealand we still in the dark ages. HPS or MH lighting is pretty much what we get. Next gen is still far too expensive here
 
Chesspoker84 said:
I run my current setup for 1 year, without any problems. Just a regular grow with a mother/clones tent and the ebb & flow table.
With this i can harvest about every 13 weeks, was using mostly sativa hybrids in the past.

With the inclusion of a second flowering tent, as mentioned, and mostly indicas, i should be able to harvest about 2,5x a year.

And the power usage will be just a bit more, around 100 to 200 watts more than atm.
Because i will use 2x quantums around 400 W instead of 2x HPS 600 W. And adding 2x 200 w quantums for the second tent.
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You have a good setup anyways Im not here to bring you down just showing you other options
 
Samsung led strips and Meanwell drivers are also available in New Zealand.
DIY!
Or buy a clone from Alibaba
 
No.
All the same. As long as you have the equivalent of HPS (about 600 W HPS = 400 W Led)
But you do have less heat, which can also cause some problems (less evaporation for example, which can cause problems with the uptake of some nutes)
Some thing will be different, and in that way you are right with "if it ain't broke, don't fix it"
Advantages are less electricity, smaller exhaust fan necessary, smaller filter, such things.
 
Keesje said:
No.
All the same. As long as you have the equivalent of HPS (about 600 W HPS = 400 W Led)
But you do have less heat, which can also cause some problems (less evaporation for example, which can cause problems with the uptake of some nutes)
Some thing will be different, and in that way you are right with "if it ain't broke, don't fix it"
Advantages are less electricity, smaller exhaust fan necessary, smaller filter, such things.
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Yeah I just now had a little look at some online they have dropped in price considerably since I last looked
 
Sounds interesting, i think i will still use my 600 w HPS in the winter. Could be interesting to compare them with 400 w led's. I bet the HPS will yield slightly more.
I will buy some high quality quantums but no diy.
 
The seller of my grow shop told me just 2 days ago, that hps are still very good and quite underrated in the "led-times" nowadays.
they outperform cheap led's with same power output. but high quality quantums are a different story, maybe they will yield even slightly more (400w VS. 600w in this case). but 200w less for each lamp and lower heat for a summer grow are quite heavy arguments.
 
Most GS's know shit about led.
They also don't sell all the brands, so no wonder they talk nonsense.
You will find better info on this forum in the led section.

If you have the right led you can even have the same yield with a 300-400 W led as with a 600 W HPS.
Quantum boards are not by definition the best. One of the advantage of led is that you have an even source of light above your canopy.
With HPS it is 1 spot. With led-strips it are hundreds, evenly spread above you canopy.
With a Quantum Board you are somewhere in between.
Another 'downside' of a quantum board is that it is a solid board. The heat stays above the fixture. With strips some of the heat can be sucked (or blown) downwards towards your leaves.
 
@Keesje and @Darkoh69 : you both seem to me some really experienced growers. Can you recommend me two or 3 strains with us genetics?
some with OG, GSC, gorilla glu, etc.
Should be a heavy yielder and maximum of 9 weeks flowering time in a hydro setup!
 
Chesspoker84 said:
@Keesje and @Darkoh69 : you both seem to me some really experienced growers. Can you recommend me two or 3 strains with us genetics?
some with OG, GSC, gorilla glu, etc.
Should be a heavy yielder and maximum of 9 weeks flowering time in a hydro setup!
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Ive had good results from Gorilla Glue good yield, 9 weeks is doable but it could push another week or so & good resistance to mould which is good here we have very high humidity. Skunk #1 has done me pretty good aswell harvested a little earlier than the GG but that could be because its not as mould resistant & I had to pull before bud rot set in on more than 1 occasion. As tried & tested as these 2 strains are, cannabis genetics has come a long since they were cup winners. Its unfortunate for me that weed is still illegal here so guaranteed quality genetics are still tricky but not impossible to come across whereas in other more socially advanced parts of the world your options are endless & proven & for that Im am green with envy
 
I don't know that much about strains.
Was looking for the Holy Grail myself: Short flowering period, high yielder, easy to grow.
I once asked that question (I looked for an 8 week flowering period) and it seems the perfect plant does not exist.
It will always be a compromise.

But I am sure that there are some grow journals on this forum where you'll find something nice.
In your grow an extra week doesn't seem to be a huge problem.

But getting back to your first post... explain this please:

Chesspoker84 said:
System is also ebb and flow (question: another hydro setup, like dwc, might be better here?!) And they will stay here for about 5 Weeks.
About one more week, maybe a bit more, they will stay in veg.
Than switch to 12/12 for 3 to 4 weeks.

Plants go to final ebb and flow system (2x about 400W Quantum, or, like currently, 2x600W HSP) and flower until harvest.
After i cleaned everything, i can put another plants from step 2 in there and so on...
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I totally don't get your time schedule.
 
First Tent: clones & mothers under T5 light or something like that. After clones are well rooted, maybe after 1 or 2 weeks veg.----->

Second tent: if necessary (depends on how many plants i will grow), one more week veg., than switch to flower.
Plants will stay in autopots or dwc in single pots (not like my first ideas in another ebb n flow), to make the final transfer less stressful (no root damage). After 4 weeks of 12/12----->

Ebb n flow system to give them the most powerfull light. They stay here until harvest for 4 to 5 more weeks.
Because it's a perpetual grow, just after i cleaned everything, next plants from tent 2 are ready.
 
Chesspoker84 said:
Martin from Germany here, it's my first post in this forum!
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Hallo Martin wie geht's wie steht's? Herzlich willkommen auf RIU! :D

Chesspoker84 said:
First Tent: clones & mothers under T5 light or something like that. After clones are well rooted, maybe after 1 or 2 weeks veg.----->

Second tent: if necessary (depends on how many plants i will grow), one more week veg., than switch to flower.
Plants will stay in autopots or dwc in single pots (not like my first ideas in another ebb n flow), to make the final transfer less stressful (no root damage). After 4 weeks of 12/12----->

Ebb n flow system to give them the most powerfull light. They stay here until harvest for 4 to 5 more weeks.
Because it's a perpetual grow, just after i cleaned everything, next plants from tent 2 are ready.
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I don't think it's a good idea to plan just ahead with times like this. What is your basis for your numbers actually? You haven't even found a strain yet... so this is actually the first thing you should do... and you can go around asking people but at the end of the day what you're growing might be differently than what the people you ask did grow... it may be genetically differently or just the circumstances which causes the same DNA to present another phenotype...

so if you're into commercial growing just about every seedbank will have something for you mostly coming under the same name just like CRITICAL MASS, CRITICAL 2.0, CRITICAL+, BIG BUD, MOBY DICK, FROST FACTORY... but just because some plant will develop heavy buds it doesn't automatically mean it'll be frosty n resinous, high THC content, good smoke, good taste, stress & mold resistant, early and fast flowering...

Just order a few regular tenpacks from some seedbanks and grow like 100 plants on 12/12fs, take a clone from each plant and choose 2-3 winners at the end. and record for every plant the crucial data like
- time to finish
- dried bud mass
- stickiness
- flavour/taste/looks

I wouldn't just grow one and the same all over because people ask for different stuff, they've got different ideas of what is a good weed, and since you're the one having to sell it you may look onto what pleases them and not yourself.
If plants vary in size you can use plant manipulation techniques or just move the bigger plants to the side of each tent.
 
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