Hash and Oil Picture Thread

[VP#2]

not only butane, its moisture too I believe. looks exact same as my stuff though.

I find it interesting how you guys wax yours up in a thick chunks. mine always end up paper thin and sitting flat on the bottom of my chamber.. not in a dish shaped parchment bowl. id imagine that would speed up the process and maybe not kill your taste so much?

smoking wax for a month, then going to shatter was a flavor explosion... wax sucks!!!

 

[doubletake]

not only butane, its moisture too I believe. looks exact same as my stuff though.

I find it interesting how you guys wax yours up in a thick chunks. mine always end up paper thin and sitting flat on the bottom of my chamber.. not in a dish shaped parchment bowl. id imagine that would speed up the process and maybe not kill your taste so much?

smoking wax for a month, then going to shatter was a flavor explosion... wax sucks!!!

I only have mine in the thick chunk cause my chamber is small I need to upgrade from the jar to the actuall 5 gallon chamber.

And I feel like you get more aroma and flavor and what not with wax
Like of you really think about it honeycomb wax is the most purged stage you get it way after you get a shatter so it's the cleaner better version
Just my opinion, I'm into both cause iv had really dank shatter and wax and crumble and whatever it just depends.

 

[Guzias1]

all you are really doing is going for consistency now. youve already reached a purged enough product. taste aint really gonna change, taste comes from what you put in... you there!

i like making chunks for curb appeal :]

 

[VP#2]

going to have to disagree with both of you guys, especially you guzias!!! I thought you knew better than that.

absolutely taste will change/degrade when waxing... come onnnn man. waxing absolutely kills the taste, and its handle ability as far as im concerned. ive had the tastiest material make the tastiest shatter which then turned to tasteless honeycomb.

heres a test. on your next batch, take out 1 gram before you wax it and set it aside, let it remain shatter. then have back to back hits, with your honeycomb and the shatter.. will be a world of difference.

 

[doubletake]

I did this yesterday cause I couldn't wait to smoke some dabs I was smoke the taffy shatter consistency, had a good taste but I'd cough more with bigger dabs I'm thinking cause the tan
This comb chunk is tastier but it's got shatter on the outside rim so I'm dabbing both
Idk I think the difference is minor depends on what you put in I guess and with will be nice tastey and aromatic.

 

[doubletake]

all you are really doing is going for consistency now. youve already reached a purged enough product. taste aint really gonna change, taste comes from what you put in... you there!

i like making chunks for curb appeal :]

Thanks man yeah I'm dabbing and it all taste good just got to sell the comb to the comb people and the shat to the shat people ha.

 

[doubletake]

My first try at making CO2 Honey Oil
Girl Scout Cookies.....

How's the co2 system working out for ya jj?

 

[doublejj]

How's the co2 system working out for ya jj?

I've kinda put it on the shelf until I get my hands on a decent amount of trim to practice with. I wasn't getting enough return to keep running buds thru. I do believe that once I can do run after run & tweeking my method I will get better returns. I'll have access to a lot of trim this fall, i'll break it out again then.....

 

[Guzias1]

VP. Maybe I'll give that a whirl.. But that means I have to do thin purge :*(

 

[VP#2]

just dont honeycomb/wax up your next batch (not all of it at least) and see how much more flavorful it is.

wax is so tasteless, the wax I make, and the wax I buy, both tasteless. I smoked it for 2 weeks, then made some shatter, and wow, the shatter was a world of difference after smoking just wax for a week or two, absolute flavor overload. its hard to tell when youre missing the flavor (going from shatter to wax) but when you go from wax to shatte, and gain flavor... its definitely noticeable. or maybe im just a supertaster, I dont know.

and no, the butane isnt whats making you cough doubletake.

I feel like you guys are fucking with me now.

 

[Sirdabsalot462]

I ain't fuckin with ya VP!!

I totally agree.

Again, just like any other concentrate, wax definitely has it's place in my stash.

I just love my Shattah, so much easier to handle, dab and relax..
Wax, I gotta spend time making sure it stays on my dabber, crumbling all over the place, grrrrrrrr !
I usually end up using some sappy oil, to get the wax to adhere to my dabber. Makes life so much easier.

It also prevents me from getting angry.

I can recall at least 2counts of me launching a container of wax across the room because it keeps crumbling, lol.

 

[Thundercat]

wow you do get mad at your dabs.

 

[Sirdabsalot462]

wow you do get mad at your dabs.

Only waxes that won't cooperate with me.


This only happens when my pain levels are extremely elevated, and I need a nice easy dab...fumbling around with the wax sucks bad when my arthritis is flaring as well.

Mah actual fave consistency is a gritty shatter, super greasy, usually bright orange in color.

 

[VP#2]

couldnt agree more dabs... I do the sap trick too lots. or just melt the wax with a lighter for "1 mississippi" and itll cooperate better.

wax sometimes frustrates me too. ive already got a short fuse and at the end of a shit day at work when I need a hoot, accidentally get the nail hot first THEN make the dab, which is a wax dab, which wont cooperate on the dabber... by the time ive got it on the dabber, the nail is cooled off but I figure ill try to hit it anyways... bringing the wax dab - which is barelyyy hanging off the dabber - up to the nail, super gentle, and boom. all those annoying fuckin wax crumbs all fall off the dabber onto the carpet, and now im full out fuckin pissed (at the wax, and myself)

what I sometimes do is put a gram or 2 of wax crumbs in between parchment paper, and press it very very hard to make it into a solid puck, after a day or two it melts and hardens into itself and becomes 1 easy to handle piece again. which is totally pointless IMO.. should have just left it as shatter if im going to turn it into a giant piece again and chip away from that instead.

same thing with kief/hash back in the day.. I find I cant smoke hash unless its broken up... very very fine, almost powderized. so youre taking a powder, pressing it, then I need to powderize it again in order for it to smoke half decent??? fuck hard hash, fuck wax!!

shatter is easier to handle, nicer to look at, easier to toke/transport as its more dense, it tastes better, and is made quicker/cheaper (dont have to let my griddle leech power for 4 days, and then forget it on for a week after I pull the chamber off)

 

[BluJayz]

Interesting point of view VP. If heat was applied to make it wax faster, I might agree with you. However plenty of waxes I have made taste/smell better than their shatter counterpart. (why its my favorite) To boot, wax hurts less when you smoke it. I also find when winterizing for "absolute" you lose another layer of flavor/aroma. It could be just me but I definitely prefer "my" wax over any shatter I've made/tried. So far. (hint hint)

 

[VP#2]

yeah winterizing definitely kills the taste ill agree with you there. no doubt that a wax has potential to be pretty tasty (I personally rarely see it) but id bet that 90% of the time if the wax was pretty tasty.. then the shatter form if it would be even better,

no more heat then necessary is required to wax. just time in the chamber is all. same temp shatter is made at, and the shatter tastes great. leave it in the for a few more hours/days sometimes, and it sucks everything out of the shatter, including its flavor turning it into wax.

now sure how wax would hurt less? maybe thats because its way less dense (also why wax is rarely dark...cheaters) , so when youre taking a 2x2x2mm wax toke, its actually less than a 2x2x2mm shatter toke.

also, some strains and different aged buds wax at different times which I would imagine have something to do with it. sometimes the oil just cant wait to wax and does it in 6 hours, sometimes the oil wont wax no matter what, or it takes a week in the chamber. either way, its annoying as fuck to handle, and is tasteless most of the time.. down with wax!!!!

 

[Texas(THC)]

Wax can definitely be tasty but
If it ain't shatter it don't matter!

 

[Sirdabsalot462]

This is my view..

Wax when made correctly reeks to high heaven of a powerful aroma. The aroma consisting of valuable terpenes literally being released into the atmosphere, this is why wax degrades at a faster rate.

When shatter is made correctly, it has a great smell, but not even close to the aroma that exudes from honeycomb. In my opinion, shatter locks the terps up, like a hard shell preventing terpenes from the atmosphere.
^^
All speculation on my part, but seems to be somewhat logical.

 

[VP#2]

you got er man, our minds think so much alike that its scary sir dabs, and the fact that you like super mario and the piranha plant is weird too, I love super mario more than a 25 year old guy should.

youre absolutely right. if you can smell it in the air... thats bad!!!! thats your flavor going away right there one way or another.

 

[BluJayz]

I like the thought process there. It makes sense, for the same reason fresh budder gives you the wow effect.

I have never had any form of concentrate saved for a long time. So I haven't experienced with storage and degradation after extraction.
It is my belief is that wax is less harsh because more/all of the h20 and "other variables" are removed leaving a cleaner smoke.

Reflecting on it, it might be more of a preference thing as the "harshness" may be attributed to terp overload and my wax being smooth and flavorful because it is more balanced. Kind of like a pozole with too many chili's; you taste nothing else but the fire and it burns your ass up...

I'm going to have to thoroughly (smoke a bunch) test some with this in mind...