Hash and Oil Picture Thread

budbro18

budbro18

Well-Known Member
doubletake said:
ThAt looks really good, is the trick to getting shatter not honeycomb, is too go lower heat?'or higher or is it all strain dependent?
Click to expand...
Its a little combo of everything. Some strains have very stable resin while others dont. High CBD strains really cant get past pull and snap but im not sure if you just ramped up the temp to wax area if it would wax up. Temps are the basic changer of whether its going to be shatter or wax though. For me i go 95 until i dont get any reaction. Some strains will go all the way to 3-4 days purging fine on 95. Ive had others shatter within 4 hours. Max temp i like to go is 110. I usually stay around 100-105 but with that stuff that stabilizes in 4 hours it needs 110. So yeah low and slow usually turns out shatter. Kinda depends on your heating device and its accuracy. Some strains will hit a hgher temp for a half hour to an hour and start waxin/cloud. I use a nuwave2 So external temp changes have a minimal effect on my product in the chamber.

With wax some people just go 125 for 12 hours or so til they get a cookie, some do "over shatter" which is 110-120 ish for 24-48 or to go on 100 for a few days then the last day hit it with 115-125 for a few hours to make it wax up. On top of that it depends if/when/how you scrape. thats what i was trying here doing the 24 hour purge in the blasting dish. Some people say it prevents it from auto buddering because it brings it to a very stable point so agitation isnt as big of a factor.

Its not as difficult as it all sounds but the end result is not always predictable due to all those factors. Hell, even blasting on a humid day can cause excess moisture in your product which would cause it to either have a hard time stabilizing staying in a pull n snap consistency or it would shatter but quickly auto budder. Once again the resin stability traits of the plant/material has a lot to add to that whole mess.

Not to mention nug run vs trim run vs whole plant run. Add to that the different moisture contents of the buds and whether the person extracting dries the buds beyond "smoking moisture" which is in most people opinions too wet for extraction strictly because it can cause auto buddering/pull n snap.

Either way a proper purge will result in proper end products. I love them all the same as long as theyre purged correctly. I just personally like the look and function of shatter. I like to dunk a lot and besides super dry crumbly wax the more waxy mushy waxes arent good for that.
 
N

Native Humboldt

Well-Known Member
budbro18 said:
Its a little combo of everything. Some strains have very stable resin while others dont. High CBD strains really cant get past pull and snap but im not sure if you just ramped up the temp to wax area if it would wax up. Temps are the basic changer of whether its going to be shatter or wax though. For me i go 95 until i dont get any reaction. Some strains will go all the way to 3-4 days purging fine on 95. Ive had others shatter within 4 hours. Max temp i like to go is 110. I usually stay around 100-105 but with that stuff that stabilizes in 4 hours it needs 110. So yeah low and slow usually turns out shatter. Kinda depends on your heating device and its accuracy. Some strains will hit a hgher temp for a half hour to an hour and start waxin/cloud. I use a nuwave2 So external temp changes have a minimal effect on my product in the chamber.

With wax some people just go 125 for 12 hours or so til they get a cookie, some do "over shatter" which is 110-120 ish for 24-48 or to go on 100 for a few days then the last day hit it with 115-125 for a few hours to make it wax up. On top of that it depends if/when/how you scrape. thats what i was trying here doing the 24 hour purge in the blasting dish. Some people say it prevents it from auto buddering because it brings it to a very stable point so agitation isnt as big of a factor.

Its not as difficult as it all sounds but the end result is not always predictable due to all those factors. Hell, even blasting on a humid day can cause excess moisture in your product which would cause it to either have a hard time stabilizing staying in a pull n snap consistency or it would shatter but quickly auto budder. Once again the resin stability traits of the plant/material has a lot to add to that whole mess.

Not to mention nug run vs trim run vs whole plant run. Add to that the different moisture contents of the buds and whether the person extracting dries the buds beyond "smoking moisture" which is in most people opinions too wet for extraction strictly because it can cause auto buddering/pull n snap.

Either way a proper purge will result in proper end products. I love them all the same as long as theyre purged correctly. I just personally like the look and function of shatter. I like to dunk a lot and besides super dry crumbly wax the more waxy mushy waxes arent good for that.
Click to expand...
Very well said..
 
doubletake

doubletake

Well-Known Member
budbro18 said:
Its a little combo of everything. Some strains have very stable resin while others dont. High CBD strains really cant get past pull and snap but im not sure if you just ramped up the temp to wax area if it would wax up. Temps are the basic changer of whether its going to be shatter or wax though. For me i go 95 until i dont get any reaction. Some strains will go all the way to 3-4 days purging fine on 95. Ive had others shatter within 4 hours. Max temp i like to go is 110. I usually stay around 100-105 but with that stuff that stabilizes in 4 hours it needs 110. So yeah low and slow usually turns out shatter. Kinda depends on your heating device and its accuracy. Some strains will hit a hgher temp for a half hour to an hour and start waxin/cloud. I use a nuwave2 So external temp changes have a minimal effect on my product in the chamber.

With wax some people just go 125 for 12 hours or so til they get a cookie, some do "over shatter" which is 110-120 ish for 24-48 or to go on 100 for a few days then the last day hit it with 115-125 for a few hours to make it wax up. On top of that it depends if/when/how you scrape. thats what i was trying here doing the 24 hour purge in the blasting dish. Some people say it prevents it from auto buddering because it brings it to a very stable point so agitation isnt as big of a factor.

Its not as difficult as it all sounds but the end result is not always predictable due to all those factors. Hell, even blasting on a humid day can cause excess moisture in your product which would cause it to either have a hard time stabilizing staying in a pull n snap consistency or it would shatter but quickly auto budder. Once again the resin stability traits of the plant/material has a lot to add to that whole mess.

Not to mention nug run vs trim run vs whole plant run. Add to that the different moisture contents of the buds and whether the person extracting dries the buds beyond "smoking moisture" which is in most people opinions too wet for extraction strictly because it can cause auto buddering/pull n snap.

Either way a proper purge will result in proper end products. I love them all the same as long as theyre purged correctly. I just personally like the look and function of shatter. I like to dunk a lot and besides super dry crumbly wax the more waxy mushy waxes arent good for that.
Click to expand...
Thanks for this you explained it very well.
 
budbro18

budbro18

Well-Known Member
doubletake said:
Thanks for this you explained it very well.
Click to expand...
No problem. Its pretty straight forward but a lot of random things can change outcomes and very very few of them are predictable. Just use a good butane, glass/stainless extractor, blast into pyrex, low heat purge properly before scraping, parchment not wax paper, and vac long enough at temps between 90-130. A solid 12 hours at least. Thatll get a majority of the hydrocarbons out
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top