Having hell cloning..

Jumpin Jimmy · Dec 23, 2020

MICHI-CAN said:
I learned to clone from my grandmother in a window sill. Same principles and rules. She would make monkeys out of most self described guru's. LMAO.

But aren’t we all legends in our own minds? Lol

Star Dog · Dec 23, 2020

I think it has to be the mother, a cloner can't root clones great then then not all being equal?
Clones isn't something I've ever had problems with but I have read of people feeding differently to prepare a mother for clones but I'm not sure what's involved?

MICHI-CAN · Dec 23, 2020

Jumpin Jimmy said:
But aren’t we all legends in our own minds? Lol

At my age?? Anything I can recall is a legend or close to it. Humor on my friend. All you git in the end.

DoubleAtotheRON · Dec 23, 2020

Star Dog said:
I think it has to be the mother, a cloner can't root clones great then then not all being equal?
Clones isn't something I've ever had problems with but I have read of people feeding differently to prepare a mother for clones but I'm not sure what's involved?

IDK man.... I've heard from others who own CloneKings that have had this same issue. I got healthy moms. Im still running one 36 spot that IS producing roots after like 22 days, but im just tired of fucking with aero's.. too messy, clean up is a bitch, and i just want to have a cloning system with no moving parts, and can get consistent results.

MICHI-CAN · Dec 23, 2020

Star Dog said:
I think it has to be the mother, a cloner can't root clones great then then not all being equal?
Clones isn't something I've ever had problems with but I have read of people feeding differently to prepare a mother for clones but I'm not sure what's involved?

Sorry my friend. Never had a healthy mother fail to give viable clones. Issues were me or my failure to properly prepare.

Star Dog · Dec 23, 2020

MICHI-CAN said:
Sorry my friend. Never had a healthy mother fail to give viable clones. Issues were me or my failure to properly prepare.

I've not read all of the replies yet I was referring to the op in regards the clone king prop?

Star Dog · Dec 23, 2020

DoubleAtotheRON said:
IDK man.... I've heard from others who own CloneKings that have had this same issue. I got healthy moms. Im still running one 36 spot that IS producing roots after like 22 days, but im just tired of fucking with aero's.. too messy, clean up is a bitch, and i just want to have a cloning system with no moving parts, and can get consistent results.

I agree with you fucking messy things, but logically if it's doing the same thing it should produce the same results, why would it not?

MICHI-CAN · Dec 23, 2020

Star Dog said:
I've not read all of the replies yet I was referring to the op in regards the clone king prop?

Bites me in the arse everytime too.LOL. I believe the OP is fully capable to begin with. Just reaching that WTF time in his development. Opening up to more than high tech. Might be best thing ever. May just be the step to another path for all.

But not the Mothers fault. She's flawless or wouldn't be the mother.

Messing around but a speck of a pathogen in a system is disaster until removed. Dirt and water are fresh everytime. Just a thought and my extolling humor fr payment.

mistergrafik · Dec 23, 2020

MY OWN DANK said:
The best luck I've had cloning was just snipping the cuts n throwing em in a glass of water n forgetting abt them...works every time

If speed isn't the goal, this holds true.

For speed - plain BCUZZ coco exploded roots for me. Cuttings dipped in hrmone and plugged into a pressed coco cube - 3-5 days later depending n hw wet u got ur coco bottom feed with only organic so roots take as they need instead of forcing nutrients down it's pipe. Nutrients in an aero cloner or bubble cloner or anything sounds like fog wa. Also maybe could be the genetics - can't rule out some plants hate cloning 4 u and u must find their 'sweet spot'

mistergrafik · Dec 23, 2020

mistergrafik said:
If speed isn't the goal, this holds true.

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For speed - plain BCUZZ coco exploded roots for me. Cuttings dipped in hrmone and plugged into a pressed coco cube - 3-5 days later depending n hw wet u got ur coco bottom feed with only organic so roots take as they need instead of forcing nutrients down it's pipe. Nutrients in an aero cloner or bubble cloner or anything sounds like fog wa. Also maybe could be the genetics - can't rule out some plants hate cloning 4 u and u must find their 'sweet spot'

I spelled it wrong. Fog wa; for anyone curious

Foie gras (English: /ˌfwɑːˈɡrɑː/ (

listen), French: [fwa ɡʁɑ]; French for '"fat liver"') is a specialty food product made of the liver of a duck or goose. According to French law,[1] foie gras is defined as the liver of a duck or goose fattened by gavage. In Spain[2] and other countries, it is occasionally produced using natural feeding.[3] Ducks are force-fed twice a day for 12.5 days and geese three times a day for around 17 days. Ducks are typically slaughtered at 100 days and geese at 112 days.[4]

MICHI-CAN · Dec 23, 2020

mistergrafik said:
I spelled it wrong. Fog wa; for anyone curious

Foie gras (English: /ˌfwɑːˈɡrɑː/ (listen), French: [fwa ɡʁɑ]; French for '"fat liver"') is a specialty food product made of the liver of a duck or goose. According to French law,[1] foie gras is defined as the liver of a duck or goose fattened by gavage. In Spain[2] and other countries, it is occasionally produced using natural feeding.[3] Ducks are force-fed twice a day for 12.5 days and geese three times a day for around 17 days. Ducks are typically slaughtered at 100 days and geese at 112 days.[4]

Off topic. But, disgustingly delicious delicacy!

DoubleAtotheRON · Dec 23, 2020

MICHI-CAN said:
Bites me in the arse everytime too.LOL. I believe the OP is fully capable to begin with. Just reaching that WTF time in his development. Opening up to more than high tech. Might be best thing ever. May just be the step to another path for all.

But not the Mothers fault. She's flawless or wouldn't be the mother.

Messing around but a speck of a pathogen in a system is disaster until removed. Dirt and water are fresh everytime. Just a thought and my extolling humor fr payment.

Thank you sir!. I do believe I am capable... otherwise, I wouldn't be on 4th gen clones from these strains. Im just on the struggle bus with the aero system. I'd much rather fill a tray with water when needed, and then toss the whole tray away (except the domes), and just reorder new Rapid Rooters when I need them. Simple.

DoubleAtotheRON · Dec 23, 2020

Star Dog said:
I agree with you fucking messy things, but logically if it's doing the same thing it should produce the same results, why would it not?

I DONT FUCKING KNOW.

mistergrafik · Dec 23, 2020

DoubleAtotheRON said:
I DONT FUCKING KNOW.

4th gen? Could be losing the spunk - Also depending on how u took previous cuts stressin the overall structure internal. The will not clone 4ever if not raised for it -

**edit but like mentioned I also think ur more than capable so I assume the mommas prime time

DoubleAtotheRON · Dec 23, 2020

mistergrafik said:
4th gen? Could be losing the spunk - Also depending on how u took previous cuts stressin the overall structure internal. The will not clone 4ever if not raised for it -

**edit but like mentioned I also think ur more than capable so I assume the mommas prime time

Could be .... gonna give it one more go, then if all fails.. make some new moms....... such a long process.

toastedleaf · Dec 23, 2020

DoubleAtotheRON said:
Thank you sir!. I do believe I am capable... otherwise, I wouldn't be on 4th gen clones from these strains. Im just on the struggle bus with the aero system. I'd much rather fill a tray with water when needed, and then toss the whole tray away (except the domes), and just reorder new Rapid Rooters when I need them. Simple.

i agree Rapid Rooters make cloning nice and simple!

MICHI-CAN · Dec 23, 2020

mistergrafik said:
4th gen? Could be losing the spunk - Also depending on how u took previous cuts stressin the overall structure internal. The will not clone 4ever if not raised for it -

**edit but like mentioned I also think ur more than capable so I assume the mommas prime time

Over 3 years on a single root mother producing 36 every 3rd week. Maybe a dozen defects. SOG for a very long time.

mistergrafik · Dec 23, 2020

DoubleAtotheRON said:
Could be .... gonna give it one more go, then if all fails.. make some new moms....... such a long process.

MILF hunting time :bigjoint:

Look at it positively instead of a consuming task. I love detail

MICHI-CAN said:
Over 3 years on a single root mother producing 36 every 3rd week. Maybe a dozen defects. SOG for a very long time.

With that, what are you considering a Gen? Every 3 weeks would be new Generation?

MICHI-CAN · Dec 23, 2020

MICHI-CAN said:
Over 3 years on a single root mother producing 36 every 3rd week. Maybe a dozen defects. SOG for a very long time.

I was only selling plants. "wink, wink." Bigger balls required when "Flirtin' with disaster".

DoubleAtotheRON · Dec 23, 2020

The left tray is 4th gen clones. The rest are clones as well, 2nd gen.

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