Haze Harvest - a few pounds of 1200w vertical weed

ricky6991 said:

How much veg time do those have right now? Is that usual size before you switch to 12/12 for the last 3 lbs harvest? Also so you normally have 6 plants per station?

do you think with same veg time that putting 4 plants per station would benefit more or with 1 1200w station cover 6 plants just the same?

sorry for multiple questions but just getting a feel for this as it seems llke a more beneficial setup.

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The Schnazzleberry's are about 4 weeks from seed, the others about 4 weeks from clone. I don't veg quickly because I have no need to. Usually I flower, take my clones during the first week of flower (I don't keep mothers, I clone from clones), take 1-2 weeks for clones to strike, then feed them a weak nutrient solution over the next 4-5 weeks until they are big enough for the next round of flowering (8-9 weeks). If my clones start getting too big, I either slow them down with plain water until they start to lose a bit of colour (they take right off again as soon as you feed them) or in some cases - like the Catpiss haze which takes a little longer - I'll clone from the vegging plant and start again, donating the bigger plant to a friend to grow outside.

Here's a little tip: you can take cuttings and put them in the fridge in a glass of water and leave them there for up to a month before actually cloning them. It works, and this is sometimes what I do with longer flower strains - store cuttings in the fridge and clone when I need to.

As for how many plants to run, I've found 6 works best for larger strains. It's important to fill in all the space around the bottom light and get your plants tall enough to take advantage of the top light, too.

hyroot said:

Water those bitches.... they look thirsty.

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LOL! They're not thirsty - just the opposite. I'd just repotted them and buried the roots quite deep, so they were actually dropping from a bit of water stress (very wet under that top layer of coco). Once the roots start to make their way through the pots, they'll perk right up over the next few days. The plant far right in the bottom photo was repotted near the surface, and as you can see is pretty normal.

The cabinet is 4' x 4' - so it's 2 feet from the middle of the floor fan to each wall. Vertical growing doesn't require much room at all - only a little height.

aknight3 said:

hey friend sorry i didnt read the whole thread but i wanted to ask, do u have pics of the entire setup and how much was your final yield with 1200 watts u said? 2 600s?

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There's a photo of my set-up right above you (6 posts up). There are more on Page 1.

Haven't got the final yield yet. I've trimmed, dried and weighed 2lb so far, but have some more dried bud in a bag I haven't weighed yet - I'll try to do that tonight. I also have one more plant (the one above) hanging out to dry. The harvest was a bit more staggered than I'd planned, as the final plant kept on flowering. It was grown from seed, so I wasn't sure what to expect. I don't think it will be a keeper.

Thanks for the reply! So about 4-5 week veg after its a nice rooted clone. I do same cloning process. Rigt before switching to flower i cut clones or sometimes a week before i cut clones so new batch is rooted(have good cloner/method)

so wow those plant got big for only having month veg time. Very nice. Im always used to hydro but my next one im seriously considering coco. My new 12 clones are rooted in a day or 2 an was going to do soil but might do coco and have 2 station with 1200w like yours and 6 plants a station.

do you top yours at all or just let them grow? Seperate veg under t5 light?

I only top the Catpiss haze to encourage multiple colas (otherwise it stretches too much). I clone and veg under a horizontal 250w MH, as it's easier to squeeze everything under an overhead lamp, and I'm not trying to maximise light during veg.

perfect... thanks alot.

Been a bit slack about posting up photos. Here are the dried, trimmed buds from the two Schazzleberry x Calizahr I cut down a couple of weeks ago. The yield was just over 8oz from these two plants, taking the total up to 1157 grams, or just over two-and-a-half pounds so far.

The larger of these two plants threw a few bananas late in flowering, but not as bad as the biggest of the three seeds plants, which is still hanging up. The smoke is nice and pleasant: a real creeper that starts off slow but then you feel it in the body and finally your mind. A very relaxing and calming smoke. There won't be any keepers from these, though. I'll be looking for something special in the Schnazz#2

Plant #1 pulled 150 grams (5oz), while plant #3 was a paltry 90 grams (3oz).

Nice grow ....Looks like u need trim more to me looks super leafy and not frosty enough to stay not trying to hate just throwing that out there I could just be super picky tho

Here you go. Now you can put a photo up of yours and we can compare

Prawn Connery said:

Here you go. Now you can put a photo up of yours and we can compare

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Sorry man I kinda sounded like a dick before . I still would trim a tad more . but to each his own you still have some very dank looking bud and if it taste as good as it looks then I guess a few lil leaves dont matter . my grow still has at least 3.5 weeks of flowering left but I will post some pics once I harvest Its my first grow of my own I have helped alot of ppl in the past growing tho In other words Im still a noob and I can only hope my harvest trimmed to max will look as good as yours ... you got me really interested in vertical growing now seems u can maximize space and yield the way u grow .. I hope to get 1lbs dry off my 4 ladies but most ppl commenting on my thread say I will get more anyways you can check out my plants if u like week 5 flowering almost over the 2 biggest seem to be a lil N deficient not to bad tho so Im just gonna let them do there thing .. feel free to come leave rude comments on my thread like I did on yours .. sorry man i was still a lil drunk when I was posting yesterday

No worries. My general rule is, if the fan leaves are covered in trichomes, there's no need to trim to the bone.

I had a quick look in on your thread, too. I know you got your seeds mixed up, but my guess is you've got an SSH going by the structure and leaf shape.

Thanks man what plant of mine was u thinking SSH cause I kinda thought my biggest plant was SSH but didnt want to get to excited cause I love SSH taste ... I was also thinking one of my smaller two is OG its sure has that smell that makes my mouth water real dense buds.. now the bad news is my 2nd biggest plant which I thought would yeild the most out of the 4 got all gay on me and pop'd out a banana I spent 3.5 hours checking every bud site on every plant for more herms only found 1 tho... I blame the person that told me "lolli pop during first week of flower a little stress first few weeks of flower is ok"... I know my room has no leaks of light ... Im just gonna let it go tho and watch it since it only has few weeks left I think Ill check trichomes end of next week see how there looking under 100x ... 2 more nights and I will be on week 6 I got some more pics last night I will put them up soon

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Hello Prawn Connery. I have a question. With using a single 600 watt hps at what height do you vegg to? I know it is a bit of a tough question because it depends on what strain and the stretch. I was looking for a bit of a general rule of thumb being used. The strain I will like to use this on which I am growing already are OGR White Fire and G 13 Blue Og. The Wifi has some crazy stretch but I have not flowered the Blue OG yet.

Nice yea she is my biggest and the one I thought looked like SSH also maybe im not as dumb as I look

Prawn Connery said:

Here you go. Now you can put a photo up of yours and we can compare

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i dont wana sound like a dick either but hes right that bud would go from nice to super nice if those stragglers were gone.

after all the most flavour is to be found nearest the bone!

nice grow maaaaaaan!

EDIT: and you dont loose them leaf crystals, they go on ya toast!!

pewbsaladsandwich said:

Nice yea she is my biggest and the one I thought looked like SSH also maybe im not as dumb as I look

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we will never know lol only joking squire!!!!

I don't want to sound like a dick, either, but when I've got a couple of pounds or more to trim, I couldn't give a fuck about cutting every last little leaf with a pair of scissors . . . It's just not my idea of fun. You can pull them off later if they bother you.

drekoushranada said:

Hello Prawn Connery. I have a question. With using a single 600 watt hps at what height do you vegg to? I know it is a bit of a tough question because it depends on what strain and the stretch. I was looking for a bit of a general rule of thumb being used. The strain I will like to use this on which I am growing already are OGR White Fire and G 13 Blue Og. The Wifi has some crazy stretch but I have not flowered the Blue OG yet.

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Impossible to say, mate. The real question is how tall do they finish? You want them to finish up about 2.5-3' tall with a single 600. That means flowering an indica at about a foot tall and flowering a stretchy haze almost as soon as the clones have rooted. If growing from seed, then 2-3 weeks after they have sprouted is a good indication.

Like anything, vertical growing is trial-and-error in the beginning, as you have to get a few grows under your belt to see what your strain does. Then you can work out how many plants work best in your set-up and how long to veg them for. I flower most of mine at around 1.5' or so.

You can't say you haven't been warned.. Don't fuck with the crustacean.

lol

that's a beautiful nug =).

Personally, I trim more than that. The reason has absolutely nothing to do with quality and imo, tightly manicuring buds probably does more harm than good. The reason I do it anyways is that I am somewhat dependent on other mmj patients donating to pay the cost of my grow (free weed is nice). Also the market here is extremely competitive. Primarily catering to a bunch of pretentious little posers who are mostly concerned about being able to impress their friends with how good their buds look.

If it was not for the need to provide better (arguable) appearances as opposed to quality, I would never waste my time with something like that. Unfortunately, arguing with people is counter productive to the goal of using their money to pay for my grow.


Oh, question about your bucket system. Is that an flood and drain system modified to dtw, or did you build the system yourself?
thnx

Looks great bud. I have a question about bud density. I just harvested my first big run of blue dream vert. An my colas aren't nearly as dense when I run a horizontal garden although it looks like alot more on the yield ill probably get the same numbers. I did add in two more additives but I don't think those would cause my buds to thin out?