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PetFlora

PetFlora

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This just in from LED Magazine...

This week we have an update that covers a partnership between OLED manufacturer Novaled and Colnatec to use the latter's sensor technology to solve roll-to-roll manufacturing challenges that could lead to lower-cost panels. In the same article, we discuss a potential breakthrough at the University of Utah that could yield white light without mixing colors generated from multiple active layers -- again offering potential for lower manufacturing cost.
 
PetFlora

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Today I cut lights back from 18/6 to 16/8 + made fresh nutes ~ 610.

I will top off with this until I change nutes next week

No conclusive signs of sex

Plants are smelling now. All stems have resin

Trimmed fan leaves have a sweet smell
 
PetFlora

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Update

Since bumping ppms to ~ 600 plants have taken off.

Thinking further on why the sudden spurt, Phaeton from IC mentioned he keeps his humidity low and pH 5.5, which he says allows for better nutrient uptake. Wel, I did bring pH down from ~ 6.5 to 5.8 and lt it drift. So now, I will start at 5.5 and let it drift to ~ 5.8

I did some more undergrowth and lower fan leaf trimming before taking these pics.

Sophia (led tent) had the biggest growth spurt


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hyroot

hyroot

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Be careful with that foxfarm. It has quite a bit edta in it. A little too much will burn the shit out of your plants. I learned that one the hard way when I used to do hydro and first switched to soil. Its not organic like they claim.

everything looks good.
 
PetFlora

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Thanks Hyroot. It's a hold over from my soil days. It's just for pics. I am 100% Hydroponic-Research VEG+BLOOM, a one part dry powder formula. $20 a pound. 2 tsp/2.5G = 600ppm, so a little goes a long way.

My partner ordered 2 @ 48w 2 x 2 WW panels for me. Once they get here I will put them overhead and move the shop lights down for side lighting.

Will have 98watts homogeneously covering the entire 2 x 4 overhead http://www.kldlight.com/c371.html + 2 @ 18w tubes on opposite sides. I will stagger them for broader coverage.

It should be quite a finish
 
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Apparently Sophia did not like the idea that she was being over-shadowed by Melanie, who is in an entirely different tent. Either way, both are doing quite well.

Note the lack of shade leaves. Contrary to popular belief, I cut mine from 3 node down. My theory being more light to the undergrowth helps side branching to develop. Seems to be working, no?

HOT5

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711grower

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looks like your plants are enjoying the veg and bloom. i used it for several grows and was quite pleased with it. i strayed away from it for a bit to use some dyna grow on a round i have now. i am extremely impressed with the dyna as well. i am also trying the veg and bloom in coco with some clones i just started. good luck with your grow
 
PetFlora

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If you have noticed the main stalks are quite large and very sturdy. Ditto the lower branches.

I have been removing the smallest low branches (<4") as they will not be good enough for clones neither will they produce much bud. I have plenty of 8"+ branches to make clones

Seems like big things are beginning to happen

I did a bulb rearrangement in the HOT5 tent, including replacing one UVL Aquasun with a UVL red Life

Although the heights are similar to the LED tent, the HOT5 primary leafs are ~ 25% bigger
 
PetFlora

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Here's an interesting chart I came across regarding life of leds. Looks like 50,000 hours is just another marketing overstatement


LED Lumen Attenuation LED

Operating time (hours) Lumen decrease (%)
5,000 / 2.4%
10,000/ 5.2%
20,000/ 11.3%
50,000/ 24.5%
 
PetFlora

PetFlora

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Oh, it's on

Light still at 18/6, but not for long. Just waiting for first sign of sex

First 2 pics are from HOT5 tent. The close up is Melanie, who is going bat shit crazy with lower branches

LED pics. Sophia (G13xWW) needs more light, but is doing phenomenal considering the wattage. Plant to left of Sophia is doing quite well. The 2 on Sophia's right (not in frame) may be females too. Been stressing them by cutting off most of the leafs in hopes of forcing males.

Partner hurt his back 3 days ago, taking muscle relaxer + running a dental lab- so panels still on hold

Hope to get with him tomorrow

I adjust both rezes pH daily to ~ 5.6, but by next morning both rise to ~ 6.0

So far, not yet seeing any benefit to using the larger Air Pots, but now coming into the all important flowering cycle.

LED: roots poking out the holes in the APs

HOT5 the plant on the left one has a web of roots escaping the bottom

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PetFlora

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COBs + round parabolic reflectors could be the ticket

Ideal Industries and LEDiL collaborate to adapt chip-on-board array holders for LED luminaires

Date Announced: 20 Sep 2013

New adapters mate IDEAL Chip-Lok&#8482; array holders with LEDiL reflectors

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SYCAMORE, IL, USA and SALO, FINLAND -- IDEAL INDUSTRIES, INC. and LEDiL Oy announced an engineering collaboration that enables LEDil Mirella&#8482;, Angela&#8482;, and Lena&#8482; reflectors to mate with IDEAL Chip-Lok&#8482; array holders. As a result, lighting OEMs worldwide can now incorporate COB (Chip On Board) array technology from Bridgelux, Citizen, Cree, Nichia, Philips Lumileds and Sharp into their LED luminaires for higher quality, more cost-efficient production.

Hopefully this directs you to the page
http://ledsmagazine.com/products/39278?cmpid=EnlLEDsSeptember252013
 
PetFlora

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For all good reasons, time is marching on as to when I will get 2 @ 2 x 2 panels to install in the led tent

Being the 'Decider' (a lame W reference), I moved Sophia from the led tent to the left side of the HOT5 tent, next to Melanie, so Sophia could get more light.

If I had more G13 x WW seeds I would have left her, but I want her to be all she can be (and sill performing mind control over the other G13 to grow some balls to assure progeny

It is quite amazing how close in height and overall size she is compared to Melanie, especially when you factor in the led tent is common leds whereas the HOT5 has a hot mix of specialty aquarium bulbs

Keep in mind they have different crosses. So far, Sophia is leaning more to sat (and probably would outgrow the 5ft led tent height) with Melanie more Indica. That said, Melanie's mother started out Indica dom, but by flowering, transitioned to sat, similar to the clones I finished in July

When I lifted the WH x WW, roots were exiting the bottom, so I cut them flush. She now resides in the led tent where Sophia held court

The led tent is not going to be as exciting, at least until I get the panels installed

Sophia on left, Melanie in the middle, another WH x WW on far right

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PetFlora

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BUSINESS partner (a he). No, he actually got a script for muscle relaxers. Hoping to meet up today, bringing him Magnesium Chloride for he and his wife to rub in + some herb

Well, Sophia likes her new light and surroundings. The HOT5 upstairs is a frame in a dark room, so lots more air and height for when Sophia and Melanie grow, which both did over night. Had to ratchet up a couple inches this morning :mrgreen:

Chronikool said:
Im assuming 'muscle relaxer' is code for 'the plant'....plenty of back rubs from you wont go astray either my friend... :)
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PICOGRAV

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Pet, how did you work out to feed the plants in intervals. I assume when they are not feeding you still have water dripping and I also suppose you have two separate reservoirs, one for water and one with the nutes?
 
PetFlora

PetFlora

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One rez.

Plants benefit from a dry cycle, the critical factor is how much dry v how much wet.

Lava rock does a nice job of holding some moisture between feed cycles. I put down a layer of lava rock then cap with river rock, which keeps the roots cool.

Feed cycle depends on stage of growth. I feed shorter bursts more often in early veg, then increase as the plants grow. Since they got 3 set of primary leafs, been feeding them 27 second bursts with 36 minute pause. When lights are off I only feed every ~ 1.5 hours

PICOGRAV said:
Pet, how did you work out to feed the plants in intervals. I assume when they are not feeding you still have water dripping and I also suppose you have two separate reservoirs, one for water and one with the nutes?
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PetFlora

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Today's pics are for snap shot purposes, as well as update.

Not that I am overly concerned that pH swings from ~ 5.5 - 6.0 in 24 hours, but have not experienced such swings prior to incorporating the magnets round the 1/2" feeder tubing

Nutes are from the same jar as last grow, everything is virtually the same

So, I decided to test 'repel' v 'attract'. LED tent now in repel, HOT5 now in repel

HOT5

Melanie's primary leafs bigger than my hand with fingers spread
Sophia's primary leafs are slightly smaller. She is loving the added lumens

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