Heaths Flooded Tube Vertical

DubB83 said:
You can make a rubber band isolation system to reduce pump noise.
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i dont understand what you mean!

the pumps have suction cup type feet to stick to the bottom of the nutrient tank, the sheer power of the pumping force causes vibration noise through the floor boards that the tank is laid upon, and an extra factor on top of that, the 2000 litre per hour pumps cause the water in the pipes to flow faster and make a noise like a fucking massive water fountain in my little spare room that keeps me awake at night thinking that im at the fucking seaside paddling in the surf...haha

what is the rubber band isolation system?
 
Replacing the suction feet by suspending the pump between posts on rubber bands. Is there any way to add something to your waterfall that fallows the flow of the water from the end of the plumbing to the bucket so the water does not splash so much as flow.

Make any sense?
 
DubB83 said:
Replacing the suction feet by suspending the pump between posts on rubber bands. Is there any way to add something to your waterfall that fallows the flow of the water from the end of the plumbing to the bucket so the water does not splash so much as flow.

Make any sense?
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yes, it stops the buzzing from the pumps motor slightly, still too loud with rushing water that is amplified through the hollow space in the tubes.

easiest thing is to relocate the grow to somewhere more remote and private.
 
Greenyield: Sweet craftmanship dude! The cool tube I would skip until bud get so close that you risk fire or frying buds.

I'm super overly rediculously motivated for building a few of these set ups for commercial bud. So it would be brilliant if it was possible to pool your experiences with this system (I'll be posting mine when I'm up and running). Perhaps you could be persuaded into writing a grow journal for your own grow? Pretty please with sugar on top?

Can you tell me a little about the dimensions of your set up, i.e. length of the straight pipes, space from one net pot to the other, space between levels, liters running through the system per min or hour etc.

I'm quite paranoid about excessive power consumption (I've set my maximum risk level to be be approx. and will be running 4*600W on a switch i.e. no stealing electricity). That means 24/7 of 1200W. I've been thinking a lot about how to max out yield with this limit on electricity. For instance flowering 1 week old vegs for the first week of 12/12 in the aerocloner under 250W to minimize light waste in the big vert (while simultaneously growing previous crops in the verts). Running 12/6 dark/light cycle for the last two weeks or reducing to 50% light intensity the last week or two when there's no real growth, only maturing of buds etc.

Any info is appreciated. Cheers Vertfarmer
 
That setup is amazing my friend! I hope to have one similar some day, perhaps when I get into my own home, rather than an apartment!
 
Wow totally sold on the pro's of vertical grows, not that i think for one moment that i could replicate this awsome grow, but recon i can sure improve my personal stash!
can anyone tell me where to buy the light fixings for a vertically hanging bulb, as i cant find on my searches, ta all! bongsmiliebongsmilie
 
I would love to do a verticle grow, it is only a matter of time before i start mine...

I dont know if im going to do anything as complicated as this for my first vert grow, but i do want to try the drip system aswell
 
heath i had a question about the spacing of your holes in the pipe how many inches apart are they or greenyeild if you could help with this ty
 
neiltoosweet said:
can anyone tell me where to buy the light fixings for a vertically hanging bulb, as i cant find on my searches, ta all! bongsmiliebongsmilie
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you can buy a cool tube light shade which is just a circular piece of pyrex glass with a alloy shade insert, you just have to use a little force to remove the alloy shade and u put your bulb in the fitting.

you could buy an adjustawing shade and just use the part that the bulb fits into and suspend it in mid air using chains or metal wire.

you can also buy a coliseum light shade that is specifically made for vert growing, it is the same as a cool tube but has no shade inside the glass.
hydroponic shops/stores are the best place to ask if you have one near by.

to VERTFARMER, i cut my straight pipe to 16" to fit inside a 1.2m tent and spaced my plants just by cutting 3" holes in each of the 45 degree pipe connectors and one in the centre of the straight pipe to get 52 sites. i think i can use this thing a little smaller in diameter if i tie the plants back from the light as they grow upwards rather than towards the light.
 

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so i guess heath does use a 4000 LPH pump then ? i read 400 somewhere then 4000 else where. greenyield was using 2000lph in his which is a bit smaller than heaths. Heath Excellent Job Mate u r my idol. That shit u got happening is fully of this planet. Can u confirm one thing , what size pump do u use for feeding, i see 2 pumps in the res, i smaller rio type one and the bigger black one, i'm guessing is 4000 LPH. Excellent job mate. am looking forward to seeing more pics from your next grow.

catch ya madazz:weed:
 
oh and heath another thing, i notice in some pics the bulbs are hps but look like they are the MH conversion bulbs, What type of bulb do u use and why did u choose that type. Many Thanks mate

catch ya soon

Madazz:weed:
 
thanks for that greenyield!
so can I just hang that tube with a fan blowing up at it as heath does with his bare bulb, or do I have to fit a fan to the pyrex,
sorry bout the noob questions, but I only ever run a 400wt scrogg, I got about 9oz every 8 weeks haha I thought I was doin the do!
till I saw what you boys achieve!
 
neiltoosweet said:
thanks for that greenyield!
so can I just hang that tube with a fan blowing up at it as heath does with his bare bulb, or do I have to fit a fan to the pyrex,
sorry bout the noob questions, but I only ever run a 400wt scrogg, I got about 9oz every 8 weeks haha I thought I was doin the do!
till I saw what you boys achieve!
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you can just hang the bare bulb in there, that is what i was going to do but i know my room and temp that i get upto in summer and winter plus the humidity problems i have at different times of the year. i opted for the cooltube just incase i needed to move heat away at some point.

im new to vertical growing myself, i know that i will achieve a better yield with practice, than i could otherwise with my other methods.
the only reason i went with the cooltube is because of 2 things:

1: i am using a smaller diameter setup so i need to protect my buds from heat.

2: i dont have any ducting connected up to the cool tube as i dont need it right now but when summer gets here again i probably will need to fan the heat away.

when you move air away from your plants you also move the humidity in the air too, i will more than likely have to use a humidity mister to put humidity where i need it at some point in the hot season. possibly even when winter hits its coldest, as the air is dry then.

by the way, 9 oz is nothing to be ashamed of with only 400w bulb. ive hit less with 600w due to poor room conditions when i started out.

i like the idea of vertical growing as you can at least triple your ft or meter square, it is just a matter of time before i dial it in and get what i want.
 
bongsmilie
greenyield said:
you can just hang the bare bulb in there, that is what i was going to do but i know my room and temp that i get upto in summer and winter plus the humidity problems i have at different times of the year. i opted for the cooltube just incase i needed to move heat away at some point.

im new to vertical growing myself, i know that i will achieve a better yield with practice, than i could otherwise with my other methods.
the only reason i went with the cooltube is because of 2 things:

1: i am using a smaller diameter setup so i need to protect my buds from heat.

2: i dont have any ducting connected up to the cool tube as i dont need it right now but when summer gets here again i probably will need to fan the heat away.

when you move air away from your plants you also move the humidity in the air too, i will more than likely have to use a humidity mister to put humidity where i need it at some point in the hot season. possibly even when winter hits its coldest, as the air is dry then.

by the way, 9 oz is nothing to be ashamed of with only 400w bulb. ive hit less with 600w due to poor room conditions when i started out.

i like the idea of vertical growing as you can at least triple your ft or meter square, it is just a matter of time before i dial it in and get what i want.
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Cool, thats sounds good, think I will start with just the cooltube without a fixed exhast,(I feel it will protect the light should a bud fall on it, + it gives the option of adding a fixed exhast if heat is an issue later,
I also like the idea of useing the light more efficiently, without all thet training that scrog demands!
yeah it will be fun dialling it all in, a new adventure n all that,
thanks again for the advice
 
Thanx Heath 4 all your awesome info. I am designing my first grow and have been inspired 2 go vertical by YOU! But modified to fit my small space with one side open for access. I am very interested in using a light that is relatively new to growing m-land Super Grow light rated at 300w it is said to replace a 1000w HPS/MH with a spectrum that is said to be good for both veg/bloom. Saving 80% on power usage and heat only slightly above LED's that makes 96% useful light compared to HPS at 16%. I will definitely be a guinea pig as I can't find feedback from anyone currently who is using them. I'm wondering if it would push the gram 2 watt up past 6gms per watt. I will definitely start a thread on this when I get going. My hats off to you for designing the perfectly engineered simple design. I have been working in Film Special FX for 15+ years and have seen my share of over designed projects. Thank U soo much for your posts, GREAT ATTITUDE, and patience, when answering ?'s, U have inspired alot of people. I'm sure I'll B bugging you with ?'s, but since I have read thru your thread a couple of times now I will try 2 keep them original.
Cheers :)
 
Hello Heath,

#1. I was wondering which 600w sunpulse MH you are using?

#2. Electronic or magnetic ballast, & Brand?

#3. Which Kelvin?

Cheers :)
 
heffe' said:
Hello Heath,

#1. I was wondering which 600w sunpulse MH you are using?

#2. Electronic or magnetic ballast, & Brand?

#3. Which Kelvin?

Cheers :)
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How were you cooling your room? I mean, like was there a window unit, a portable unit or what?
 
I was thingking of making samekind myself, except smaller. But im out of money, but i have got plenty of duct hose/Aluminium tube that is the right diameter. Can i use this or is the aluminum bad for the plants?
 
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