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whytewidow said:
Yeah three boards included like that. You'll prob have to dim them some.
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How I would set up a 4x4 if I had to use boards. 6 boards and 2 drivers pushing right around 600 watts. 4x6 would use 9 boards. I think that extra kick would be good using the 2100 or the 2800 if I was in an open area.
I think those boards will work good in that veg area I'm using them for.
 
Heisenbeans said:
How I would set up a 4x4 if I had to use boards. 6 boards and 2 drivers pushing right around 600 watts. 4x6 would use 9 boards. I think that extra kick would be good using the 2100 or the 2800 if I was in an open area.
I think those boards will work good in that veg area I'm using them for.
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In a 4x4 I'd use 4 boards. Spaced out evenly. But you only got 3 didnt you? You could set em in a triangle but you're gonna soft spots in the long line of the triangle.

Edit: 3 boards in that space you built will rock no doubt about it.

6 boards I'd do 3 and 3. 3 per driver.
 
whytewidow said:
In a 4x4 I'd use 4 boards. Spaced out evenly. But you only got 3 didnt you? You could set em in a triangle but you're gonna soft spots in the long line of the triangle.

Edit: 3 boards in that space you built will rock no doubt about it.

6 boards I'd do 3 and 3. 3 per driver.
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I dont think 4 in a 4x4 is enough. I think you'll get them drop offs of par drastically. Them boards are only 12 x 7 inches so trying to put 4 over a 4x4 I think your gonna lose on the outsides. That is why I went with cobs over the boards but if I had to use the boards I would put 6 over a 4x4 or 9 over a 5x5 and drive them softer for a bigger footprint.
 
whytewidow said:
There was a guy on here or IG I cant remember but used 3 boards over a 2.5 x 6 I think. Running them at 2100mA and they absolutely crushed it. I mean the strain was a yielding strain but it still smashed. I was super impressed.
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Yeah that makes sense. 3 over a 2.5x6 but there still driven hard so you'll get taller colas under the boards. I'm all about even tops cause it makes it easier when adjust the light height. I hate colas that wanna grow extra taller under the bulbs so you have to keep raising the lights and the outsides suffer or bend them over.
 
whytewidow said:
In a 4x4 I'd use 4 boards. Spaced out evenly. But you only got 3 didnt you? You could set em in a triangle but you're gonna soft spots in the long line of the triangle.

Edit: 3 boards in that space you built will rock no doubt about it.

6 boards I'd do 3 and 3. 3 per driver.
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I got 6 boards with the slates. Gonna run them long ways across the short sides 8 inches apart down the length of the 2x8.
Yes 2 drivers per 3 boards at 2100. 50 volts per board at 2.1 amps will be right at 105 watts per board at max . I'll dim them down till I hit 20,000 lux across the top of the canopy
 
They are 7 inches wide so that's almost 50 inches of board width. Its 96 inches total so 7 inches from the wall on each end and 7 inches apart will be perfect coverage.
12 of them bithes over a 4x8 would be retarded.
4 drivers maxed out at 1200 watts would murder two 600w HPS or 4 315s.
 
Heisenbeans said:
Sunset sherbert is straight fire, really starting to love that plant. Starting to frost up and smells just like a frozen citrus kinda push up pop or some shit. Like a fruit salad kind of.
The banana cookies sunset cross is gonna be the sell out queen.
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Ohhh looks like I have a new want!
 
Heisenbeans said:
I dont think 4 in a 4x4 is enough. I think you'll get them drop offs of par drastically. Them boards are only 12 x 7 inches so trying to put 4 over a 4x4 I think your gonna lose on the outsides. That is why I went with cobs over the boards but if I had to use the boards I would put 6 over a 4x4 or 9 over a 5x5 and drive them softer for a bigger footprint.
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I have 2 boards in a 2x4 and it is way too much light for the cabinet, well not really too much but more than enough for sure. I think 4 in a 4x4 would kick ass.

Edit: I think you might be right about the drop off towards the edges, especially on the 7' side.
 
Yeah that's QB biggest down fall. Is their ends and corner drop off. I think those reflectors that are being passed around now help with it. But they are for more open air runs. Like in a room. To help angle it down instead of out. I believe samsungs diode cast makes them 120° which is what causes the drop off on the perimeter. But if you're running six boards. Idk y I thought you said you got 3. But anyway 2 groups of 3. With like 8-12 inch gap between them, will cover what your tryna cover easily. And your setup for flower going with cobs was the right choice. I like cobs. But for me in tents, I just dont like the footprint. Inside tents or reflective sides strips n boards rock. Free air/open space cobs are where it's at. Especially with some of the new reflectors that are coming out. They angle the light perfectly. I seen where migrow did a par test n whatnot on the new chilLed pucks. They arent as efficient as the website says. Go figure. But soon as I finish this veg build. I'm building a monster light. With those pucks and custom made star diode pcbs inbetween. For the 32x32 tent I use for veg now. No reason for me to veg in a 2x2x3 then to a 32x32 then flower. I can get them big enough for me in the 2x2x3. So I'm ordering 4 pucks lol for the 32x32 7.1sqft gonna run em all together softly at 525w may order em now.
 
thenotsoesoteric said:
I have 2 boards in a 2x4 and it is way too much light for the cabinet, well not really too much but more than enough for sure. I think 4 in a 4x4 would kick ass.

Edit: I think you might be right about the drop off towards the edges, especially on the 7' side.
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Yeah the entire purpose of the led market is efficiency, running more light points at a lower amp is driving them softer giving you more par per watt. Cost a little more up front but I think the end result over the footprint is better as opposed to less light sources driven at higher wattages.
 
whytewidow said:
Yeah that's QB biggest down fall. Is their ends and corner drop off. I think those reflectors that are being passed around now help with it. But they are for more open air runs. Like in a room. To help angle it down instead of out. I believe samsungs diode cast makes them 120° which is what causes the drop off on the perimeter. But if you're running six boards. Idk y I thought you said you got 3. But anyway 2 groups of 3. With like 8-12 inch gap between them, will cover what your tryna cover easily. And your setup for flower going with cobs was the right choice. I like cobs. But for me in tents, I just dont like the footprint. Inside tents or reflective sides strips n boards rock. Free air/open space cobs are where it's at. Especially with some of the new reflectors that are coming out. They angle the light perfectly. I seen where migrow did a par test n whatnot on the new chilLed pucks. They arent as efficient as the website says. Go figure. But soon as I finish this veg build. I'm building a monster light. With those pucks and custom made star diode pcbs inbetween. For the 32x32 tent I use for veg now. No reason for me to veg in a 2x2x3 then to a 32x32 then flower. I can get them big enough for me in the 2x2x3. So I'm ordering 4 pucks lol for the 32x32 7.1sqft gonna run em all together softly at 525w may order em now.
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If I had to do it all over I would have spent the extra coin and got more higher amp drivers. Dimmed them down and increase brightness as the canopy gets taller. I dont have any issue with what I have but I always have wanted to run 8 foot plants in 26 gallon totes on 5 foot centers under 2800 mA drivers.
 
Heisenbeans said:
If I had to do it all over I would have spent the extra coin and got more higher amp drivers. Dimmed them down and increase brightness as the canopy gets taller. I dont have any issue with what I have but I always have wanted to run 8 foot plants in 26 gallon totes on 5 foot centers under 2800 mA drivers.
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I have 8 or so cobs. I have older 36v cree 5000m cxa3050s they will handle 1800mA and will blind you. I've pushed 41.25v at 2350mA through them on active cooled cpu heatsinks. Just barely got warm. But man they are bright. Especially being white Kelvin every time I worked in the veg tent with them on. When i closed up and turned lights off in the room and leave to go outside I couldn't see shit for like 10-15 mins. They really mean they will cause eye problems. Bc they will. I got a pair of methods 7s its unreal how much nicer it is with them and still being able see. But I pulled them out for this new QB I'm testing. 97+cri 108e 4.5A at 24v. Its 4k. Decent vegging. But they say 2x2 one board free air no sink at all. Its alot thicker than hlgs but i just sint seeing a 2x2 flowering from it. And its loaded with resistors. And they make the same exact board with tons of reds. I mean tons.

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Damn, all this led talk has me interested. Still running hps 4×600w and some cheapass clown light LEDs(they're really only for supplemental, they were for the veg tent, but I stole for extra flower lights). I've been kinda trying to decide whether to go LED or CMH. But with the strips, I could probably forgo the heatpump and just do in and out air with co2. Sounds much cheaper and more efficient.

My flower room is 9×6. Can I light that up with the samsung strips and whatever drivers? Would I need anything more than that? What would you recommend? Keeping in mind I'm a med guy (legal) and quality/potency can't suffer.
 
There are plenty of international stealth shipping techniques that work consistently. GPS always get through and their stealth is hide in plain sight style. Herbies and Attitude have good methods, they need to cos they guarantee delivery so costs them money if they get stopped. Sannies has a good way too, GLG as well. There are loads of ways.

Edit> But DVD case as someone suggested earlier is a red flag, nobody buys DVDs anymore.
 
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whytewidow said:
I've done some dumb shit in my life. And playing with a mj rookie card outside. When I was 6 is the top of the list. My mom still has the card. But its trashed. Its actually only a 1/3rd of a card now. Worthless. I had no idea he was going to be the greatest bball in the world. I wonder what they are worth now in mint cond.
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I passed up 2 10 box cases of 86 fleer basketball in 87 because the guy couldn't sell BB cards everyone just did baseball there were on average 2 Jordan RCs a box my biggest sportscard miss ever
 
Heisenbeans said:
If I had to do it all over I would have spent the extra coin and got more higher amp drivers. Dimmed them down and increase brightness as the canopy gets taller. I dont have any issue with what I have but I always have wanted to run 8 foot plants in 26 gallon totes on 5 foot centers under 2800 mA drivers.
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Check out the conversation I sent see what u think I have used it to relocate many things for many years And never I mean never has it failed
 
Heisenbeans said:
I like it. Only thing I ask is no one ever post the addresses used for shipping here on the thread.
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Yeah man gotta keep on top of that, I see idiots posting full detailed descriptions of how their shit arrived.

nc208 said:
We do in Canada.....
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I stand corrected. Nobody (except Canadians) buys DVD's anymore. Nah, seriously, I know for a fact that DVD and CD cases are considered suspect by the Aussie customs.
 
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