help.. 3 times and yall say everythings fine.

kharozan

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Ok so everyone told me everything would be find i did what you said i woke up and bam im completly fucked, they dont even count as plants now.2011-04-02_11-08-34_778.jpg2011-04-02_11-08-21_474.jpg2011-04-02_11-08-28_545.jpg
 

MidnightJoker

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I'm not sure what you did. Could you list some of the steps you took in getting started? Do you have a moisture meter?
 

kharozan

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I got the soil, + pertile baked them just in case, let them cool sanitized my growing area, installed 2 pretty decent lights in the growing community one mainly red and one blue for a nice mix. Setup the way to move the plants according to their height to the lights, Read about 47 million pages about growing. Got my nutes and all that and havent used them at all exept maybe week and a half a go i made a 1/10th strength because my soil lacked nitrogen and it flourished after that. Two weeks in and the started to get thicker stems, catching up I guess, and i watered them ever 4-7 days or as the soil became way to dry. Had a 1/5 ft fan blowing on medium for their life. I have no clue what could of happened, and it wasnt nute burn because i flushed it afterwords.
 

FriendlyGuy

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I got the soil, + pertile baked them just in case, let them cool sanitized my growing area, installed 2 pretty decent lights in the growing community one mainly red and one blue for a nice mix. Setup the way to move the plants according to their height to the lights, Read about 47 million pages about growing. Got my nutes and all that and havent used them at all exept maybe week and a half a go i made a 1/10th strength because my soil lacked nitrogen and it flourished after that. Two weeks in and the started to get thicker stems, catching up I guess, and i watered them ever 4-7 days or as the soil became way to dry. Had a 1/5 ft fan blowing on medium for their life. I have no clue what could of happened, and it wasnt nute burn because i flushed it afterwords.
Heres a good example of what the average person should do and compare it to what you did.

Get seed.. put in jar with reverse osmosis water, put in a drawer or some dark closed area, check back on it in like 2-3 days until the root is a bit long..
get a rock wool cube soak it on the 2nd day the root pops up in a seperate bowl of reverse osmosis water for 24 hours (so it will be 3rd day since root showed)

put in a glass dish and fill with water, place rockwool on top so a little less than the bottom half has water on the cube (cube pulls water up so it will ALWAYS stay moist)
Grab the jar and tip over the cube and dish so the seed with root falls on top of rock wool cube, used a sanitized item to push the root into the hole and have it so only the seed shell sticks up, press the hole a little close together so it promotes contact with the root so they have water.

Get a blue/white light (low wattage will work just FINE) attach the light to a timer, adjust the timer so it ends at 12pm and starts at 6am.

Just wait and watch the sprout pop up, right when you see leaves get a cup and put soil on the bottom and fill the cup a bit so rockwool will be in middle, since its a square and cups a circle put soil on the side to fill in the empty space, and put soil on top to cover the whole cube so the root in the hole isnt expose to light.

keep that under the light (very close because its low wattage remember, 23 watt is great to work with) than after a week check the bottom of cup for roots, if you see it crowding transfer it into a pot of any size you want.) (btw transferring from the rockwool to soil wont stress the plant since the root will still be growing and wouldnt have even grown OUT of the rock wool cube yet)

from there im sure you know exactly what to do lol :] :P :P
 

kindbud27

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even flushing after using nutes on a toddler will have some effect on it. the red spectrum light probably didnt help it much. sorry man!
either way whatever happened it still sux:-(
 

kharozan

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Yeah i mean the plants right there are at 2 1/2 weeks so they were fairly stable untill yesterday and roots were awesome, yeah nutes didnt do anything i dont think, i nuted them super softly and they looked better that was like almost 2 weeks ago
 

FriendlyGuy

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thats mine in 2-2.5 weeks.. minus the bottom one ha THAT one is actually OLDER than mine by 3 days but my friend sent to me to take care of :P
 

FriendlyGuy

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yours for the age.. relates to the one on the bottom.. but idk if i were in ur position i really woulda appreciated someone showing me a typical 2-2.5 week old plant
 

FriendlyGuy

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OH I got it!!! its the water ur using man!!! it prob Locked up ur plants bro.

What water are you using? because for I use the reverse Osmosis water
 

Ledhed

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My guess is by baking the soil(wtf?) you killed anything beneficial to your plant, thereby starving it. Get some more seeds, some fresh, decent soil, and do it the simple, almost foolproof way. Drop seed in soil, cover seed with a bit more soil say1/2 inch or so, water. Your seed should pop and begin growing within a week or so, then give it plenty of light, but not hot light. You said red and blue lights are what you had, hopefully you didn't meant that literally, like red and blue party bulbs. Get some decent CFL bulbs to start, maybe the 42 watt ones. NO NUTES for at least the first three, even four weeks, or until the plant is a good 10-12 inches tall. Personally I don't rely on nutrients much, I only really use them if the plants seem to be lacking something, which with good soil, good lighting, and proper watering, they shouldn't be, at least for a while. Plenty of other things you can do to improve upon your last try, but these are the basics, try again.
 

kharozan

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omg send me a cutting ill love you forever lol, yeah the one on the bottom is quite close to mine. Maybe slightly taller because mines white widow.
 

kharozan

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not at all baking kill infestation nothing negative to the nutrition, plus i nuted it if you read above at a weak solution, my online friend does that with all of his soil and his plants are huge so its not that.
 

NLNo5

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You baked your soil, not a bad idea if you don't know it's history. But then you got to get the life back into it. You might have changed the chemistry of the soil by baking it.

I'd collect some drip water and take the pH of the water and see if that tells you anything.

Also you might be able to revive them by top dressing with some worm castings and giving them a little bit of water.

A light algae tea works good to bring them back also.

It's pretty hard to fuck it up man. It's got to be something really obvious your doing wrong. Then didn't grow much in two weeks as a matter of a fact looks like they barely got any nutrition from the soil.

If you bake your soil you need to re inoculate it with some raw worm castings or compost or endomycorrhizae. Then you need to let it incubate for a few weeks to get it back alive. Next time you bake put it at about 200F for two hours then re inoculate and incubate.

Fuck it's easier to just get some roots organic or biobiz or even foxfarm.

Try some castings or tea and see if they bounce back. Or fuckit just start over and save yourself some time.

Don't feel bad man, chances are you won't fuck up like this again.
 

FriendlyGuy

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Yeah but as soon as I saw you said baking I thought "omfg! thats so smart! hes killing the eggs and preventing the fucking fly problem I currently have, (once again due to last second shit, store was closed and I used my soil i use outdoor for my vegetables on my plants ha)
but also I thought of the very precious mico bacteria.. i figured if it can kill an egg.. which im sure they feed on micro bacteria.. than it might kill the bacteria too.. BUT i saw u mentioned 1/10th of nutes.. so i figured ud be fine (and im right since your friend uses that method and has no problem)

Your plants dont look burnt.. BUT it DOES look very green and hydrated as fuck so the only things i can think of is the type of water.. maybe over watering as well, also the nute lock up.

It makes sense right man?
 

kharozan

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Lol hopefully your right, i only have 2 seeds left 0.o so im gona try and make it work, yeah the soils ph is on point and the nutrition was bumped up by a little compoast about 3 weeks before they were put in it
 
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