Help!! Germination to Sprout
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stickyicky77
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I am waiting 2-3 weeks. I checked the temp inside of the dome and it is about 85 F with 100% humidity. The ones that have cracked i have planted into 1" rock wool cubes soaked in distilled water with the pH adjusted to 5.5 and i have some in rapid rooters. One of the ICE seeds finally cracked and has a small root. I planted it into a 1" rock wool cube this morning. I have them in my tray with the heating mat under it and the dome on. I have some CFL's a few inches from the top of the dome now. How long should it take before i see sprouts?? I did plant the Lowryder#2 in rapid rooters and they have not sprouted. This is my germation method WWW.GREENHOUSESEEDS.NL - Green House Seed Co. Amsterdam Since 1985.
stickyicky77
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I have been leaving them in the distilled water until they crack. I left the White Ice in the distilled water from M-F and they did not crack. I just put them in the wash cloth and one of them cracked and showed root this morning. I have it in 1" rock wool under some CFL's right now.
pwt0001
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My lowryder seeds are also taking a long time to sprout. I am using an aerogarden and 4 out of 6 have germinated but its been 8 days since i planted them and they still havent broke the surface. Please help. https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/44827-my-lowryder-grow-journal.html
magic
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sticky, try pulling them out of the glass of water sooner. That seems to be the major difference in your method versus the one I tried. Everything I've come across either said DO NOT PUT THEM IN A GLASS OF WATER or DO NOT LET THEM SIT IN A GLASS OF WATER FOR OVER 24HRS. I'll let the experts explain the anatomy of it, but the moral of story is they don't like being oversaturated. I tried an experiment with mine where 4 of the 8 sat in dark cup of reverse osmosis water for 6 hours before being put in the moistened cloth and the other four sat in the cup for 12 hours. All 8 "hatched" within 48 hours and I saw no siginificant differrence in timing of the seed cracking, nor have I measured a significant difference in growth rate since transplanting them. If I can get motivated maybe I'll put it all in a journal. I hope this was of help to you!
Yea I'd be suspicious about that. Think about it- every part of the plant's life cycle should make sense in natural terms. When we germinate, we're trying to simulate Spring coming and the seed being in a moist/warm environment, which is why the moist paper towel/cloth method works. Letting them totally soak in water isn't really how it happens in nature, and therefore I doubt it's the best method. I'd keep that part to 12 hours or less, if at all. I think it'd be best to simply use the paper towel method and expect to wait a little longer.
stickyicky77
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This is the method i am using WWW.GREENHOUSESEEDS.NL - Green House Seed Co. Amsterdam Since 1985. I wiil try soaking them less. How long after the seed cracks and shows a root should i see a sprout??
Once it has a root, it's fine to put it into soil. If you put it in soil immediately, then it'll probably take longer to push itself up and out, so be patient. If you wait until the tap root is long (1/2" I guess?) then that'll work fine as well. It doesn't matter. I would say 1/4" long tap root is a good benchmark.
By your wording, it seems that you think the sprout will happen before you put it in soil. That is NOT correct. The root will show on one side, then you bury it in the soil with the tap root facing down, and then the sprout will pop out and push itself out of the soil, towards light. That make sense?
By your wording, it seems that you think the sprout will happen before you put it in soil. That is NOT correct. The root will show on one side, then you bury it in the soil with the tap root facing down, and then the sprout will pop out and push itself out of the soil, towards light. That make sense?
stickyicky77
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No, i understand that they have to planted first. I mean how long after they are planted into 1" rock wool cubes or rapid rooter sponges and they have been placed in my tray with the dome on and seedling heating mat under it and put under some CFL's?? How long after that should it take for them to sprout?? They will crack and show root and i plant them in 1" rock wool cubes and place them in my tray and they will never sprout or develop any further. WWW.GREENHOUSESEEDS.NL - Green House Seed Co. Amsterdam Since 1985
stickyicky77
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What would cause them to stop growing??
magic
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the oversaturating can cause them to stop growing because of the stress and planting them too deep in any medium can cause them to stop growing... they only have so much energy stored in the seed to start growth, and if they don't get some light and nutrients they won't have the strength the break through all the way. After I had at least a 1/2" of root through the shell I buried 7 of the 8 little girls 1/2 to 3/4" deep and had them all sprout within 3 days. The 8th one was buried a full inch deep and I had to dig out some of the soil around her to get her back to life. I wasn't sure she'd pull through but she's growing as well as the others now
LysergicBuds420
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ok ive been germinating 3 seeds of some unknown purple bud for about 8 days now... and they have been cracked since about day 3 or maybe even the night of day 2, anyways, the root tip is just barely out and i was wondering if i should plant it now or wait til they shed there seed casing.. i germinated 3 other seeds of the same strain and they were much farther along at this point last time. it seems like when i plant with the seed casing still attached i have no success.. i was just needing some feedback on this.. can you drown your seeds using the plate/ paper towel method? or do i just need to remain patient, please send along any germination knowledge you know because for some reason this is my only stage i have problems with. thanks
magic
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Sticky, I checked out the website you supplied on your germination method. Everything seems up to speed except I think you missed the part I underlined- which is what we talked about before. Oversaturating seems to be what happened to your little girls. I personally like to soak them for 12 hours max but some friends of mine have had great results without soaking them in a cup of water at all. I think you'll have much better luck next time around. Keep on growin'.
"For best results, fill a glass with clean water at a temperature between 18 and 25 degrees (room temperature). Drop the seeds into the water. The seeds should be left to soak in a dark place at a temperature between 20 and 25 degrees C / 67 - 78 degrees F. A drawer in your kitchen, away from heat sources like an oven, is usually suitable. Check the seeds after 5-10 minutes and tap down the ones that are floating. If they continue to float just let them. After 12 hours move the seeds onto a plate, between two wet layers of cotton or toilet paper."
"For best results, fill a glass with clean water at a temperature between 18 and 25 degrees (room temperature). Drop the seeds into the water. The seeds should be left to soak in a dark place at a temperature between 20 and 25 degrees C / 67 - 78 degrees F. A drawer in your kitchen, away from heat sources like an oven, is usually suitable. Check the seeds after 5-10 minutes and tap down the ones that are floating. If they continue to float just let them. After 12 hours move the seeds onto a plate, between two wet layers of cotton or toilet paper."
stickyicky77
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I just got some of this stuff in today that i am going to try. Seed Germination Tips and Techniques - Seed Germination Products.
stickyicky77
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Yeah, i was thinking the same thing.I will only soak them for 12 hrs. I have some fresh seeds soaking right now. I got some of this suff in today that i am going to try with some of seeds. Seed Germination Tips and Techniques - Seed Germination Products.
magic
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be patient LBuds, I like to wait until there is at least 1/4" if not a 1/2" of root before planting. Technically, they will make it a good amount of time in the paper towel and if left long enough may even begin to sprout there (although it will die off quickly after). The casing shouldn't pose any threat. It's meant to hold a minimal amount of nutrients for initial development and should'nt impede on growth. If your roots are just barely visible I would recommend another 2-3 days in this "pre-vegetative" stage. However, I'm suprised that if they started to crack 5 days ago that the root isn't already a 1/4." Do you have the little girls covered in darkness, or is there some light getting through? What's the temp and relative humidity in the grow room?
LysergicBuds420
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no light whatsoever.. i have them between paper towels on a plate with a bowl over the top. i then set the plate on a towel which sets over a heater. im unsure on the temp but i know the humidity is right due to the bowl blocking the evaporation but i think they might have possibly gotten too hot because they seem inactive at the present length the root is at now. how hot is too hot for germination?
progrockboy
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quick question. Seeds have been in a glass of water in the dark for 12 hours, then taken out and put in wet tissue and covered with a plate for about another 12 hours. Checked on them this morning and most of them have a root started. Just wondering how long the root needs to be before potting?? potting in soil by the way.