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A Happy Man

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Can you tell me what is going on with my two plants

They are 4 days old, bagseed, and the temps are around 79-83 degrees F, humidity is 40-50%, MG organic potting soil mixed with part vermiculite, part perlite, and part bone meal

and i have 5 23w 6500K CFL's and 2 23w 2500K CFL's

Sorry for the crappy cell pics, but can anyone tell whats wrong?

thanks

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cadeneli

cadeneli

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Should have them in a starter soil. Mg alreay has ferts that are activated by moisture and you said you have bone meal in with it. That's a pretty hot mix to have babies in.
 
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A Happy Man

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can you give me an example of starter soil..and do you think they still have a chance at living if i transplant them into starter soil? because they are looking pretty bad.
 
aeviaanah

aeviaanah

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just leave them alone and hopefully they will pull through. transplanting makes no sense. cadeneli is right, your soil seems quiet hot.
 
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McFonz

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whats up with people abusing bone meal?
that shit should be used at 1-2 tablespoon per gallon, for adult plants.

seeds should be started in inert or very lightly fertilized medium.
Just straight vermiculite works nice.

the seedling is toasted, get a new one going.
 
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A Happy Man

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McFonz said:
whats up with people abusing bone meal?
that shit should be used at 1-2 tablespoon per gallon, for adult plants.

seeds should be started in inert or very lightly fertilized medium.
Just straight vermiculite works nice.

the seedling is toasted, get a new one going.
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i only mixed in a little bone meal, and i wasnt aware that you needed different soil for babies, i thought that its best to keep the soil the same so it reduces stress, but i guess i was wrong, and this is my first grow ever. so sorry for offending you man
 
aeviaanah

aeviaanah

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A Happy Man said:
ok thats what ill do, and what do you mean by its hot?
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too much nutrients, adult plants can handle lots more nutrients. If you used this soil mix to transplant you would be fine but since you are starting seeds, you need a much less nutrient enriched medium.

i would let em be...they may end up growing, pics are hard to tell what they actually look like.
 
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A Happy Man

Member
ok well thanks for the quick help, and i guess ill start germinating some more seeds cuz i dnt think there gonna make it :(
 
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A Happy Man

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ok ill try it, thing is the vermiculite i have is the really fine shit, i didnt no it was like that when i bought it, do you think that will be fine? cuz i heard the really fine vermiculite wasnt that great
 
aeviaanah

aeviaanah

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A Happy Man said:
ok ill try it, thing is the vermiculite i have is the really fine shit, i didnt no it was like that when i bought it, do you think that will be fine? cuz i heard the really fine vermiculite wasnt that great
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well i have never used vermiculite alone for seedlings. i was hopin mcfonz could tell ya more. seedlings should do fine in plain soil.
 
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McFonz

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if it drains - its good as gravy. the fine one should hold more water.

don't worry about offending me, its not that easy :P
I was answering another topic just a few minutes ago with another newbie grower using too much bone meal.
 
RyanTheRhino

RyanTheRhino

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Happy_Frog_Potting_Soil.jpgLook for the bags that say potting soil

The most common ingredients used in potting soil are peat moss, composted bark and/or other plant materials, sand, and perlite (for drainage). Some potting soil mixtures contain particles of vermicompost, while other contain vermiculite for water retention. Most commercially available brands of potting soil have their pH fine-tuned with ground limestone, and some contain small amounts of fertilizer and slow-release nutrients.[2] Despite its name, little or no soil is used in potting soil because it is considered too heavy for growing houseplants
 
aeviaanah

aeviaanah

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i start my seedlings in fox farm ocean forest...which can be a bit on the hot side- not recommended for seedlings. this helps me ween out the crybabys.
 
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McFonz

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Ryan, from what I've seen that happy frog thing should be avoided by other peoples experience.

aeviaanah, I always look for a low feeder to save on fertilizers so killing it so young would be a waste.
I rather check their heat resistance first :)
 
aeviaanah

aeviaanah

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McFonz said:
Ryan, from what I've seen that happy frog thing should be avoided by other peoples experience.

aeviaanah, I always look for a low feeder to save on fertilizers so killing it so young would be a waste.
I rather check their heat resistance first :)
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right on. you havin heat problems?
 
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A Happy Man

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if i mix some perlite with the vermiculite do you think they will be ok? cuz the vermiculite i have is very fine and when i get it wet it clumps so if i mix it with the perlite i have it would make it breath better...what do yo guys think?
 
RyanTheRhino

RyanTheRhino

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That was just the first picture that popped up on Google. lol I just posted it cuz it had POTTING SOIL written on it. Really though i though it was a fox farm product and people on this site go buck wild for any thing related to fox farm. anyways i dont grow soil i use ebb & flow
 
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prot0n

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I've found MG soil to be EXTREMELY alkaline, with a pH of 8. Also has way too much N for a seedling. I've grown seedlings with excellent results using either perlite, vermiculite, rockwool, or peat moss
 
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