help me save my girls?

this is my first big grow.

2 aeroflo2 30 sites
60 bubba kush plants
6 weeks into 12 12
2 1000 w hps
2 cooltubes hooked up to valuline 6 in 435 cfm fan
Can filter 33 hooked up to canfan 240 cfm
8 tube cfl for sidelighting
Lucas formula not exact as his but still 1:2 ratio
RO water
Hydroton media
No coco liners
Prozyme

Ok so they got about two feet tall and budded then i got claw leaves only at the top so i switched from lumewings to cooltubes then added the cfilter for more exaust. The heat seems to stay down now but they were still getting worse so i raised the lights to about 18 20 inches away now it stopped. I have large castle lower buds n small like barely formed colas. My smaller plants didnt get it as bad. I trimmed some claw leaves cuz they like clawed around the buds so they didnt get light. Ive been misting in the dark w 5.8 ro water for a few days hoping itll help. Like i said claw was only around the top so im guessing heat. No signs of nuteburn although i reecently noticed my hm ppm meter was junk so i bought a truncher n ive been keepin them at the 16 ec mark like 1240 i think maybe 1300 on the .7 side. But its not genetics happened to two diff strains. Ph is always between 5.0 n 5.5 occasionaly 5.6. Not sure wat res temp is but i put ice bottles in once or twice a day it keeps it cold once in awhile it gets a bit warm but not to warm it got real bad wen i had heat issues tho . But ive pretty much cleared the heat up. So is this fixable? How? let them grow longer? Will it happen again? Was heat the issue or another reason? Room prolly stays around 80 to 85 at peek before lights out. Humidity stays down when i use ice bottles before it was real bad w.o cooltubes n exaust. Any help would be great.

claw leaves arent the end of the world. just back off on the nutes a bit. Trimming leaves that are "blocking budsites" is a good way to lower your yield. This I can assure you. : ) if you want more info go to the advanced section and look up cutting off fan leaves.

Well they arent fan leaves they are single blades about n inch long. Is there any way to revive my top cola im not pressed on the claw issue ive had it n still had great yeild jus never had scragly tops

Oh and i appreciate your opinion but i dont think the nutes did it. I have 10 inch plants w massive colas in the same system w no claws and 2 ft plants on the other side w claws. So jus guessing here but id assuume bigger plants need more nutes than smaller ones so the smaller ones woulda showed overnute atleast at the same time but they look perfect. Kinda why im pretty sure it was heat. But im just worried about reviving top cola. Like i said large lowere growth small tops. They are almost non-existant the pistil all died on the tops and they swelled up showing no new growth?

it not the nutes thats dong it.... it the temp of the room.... you need to drop it to 78 f . it will take that shit away . trust

Im not sure wat the temp is really i kno it was hot as hell before n my house stays at 70 and the rooms abit warmer then the house. But not much more i can do about heat. Cooltubes n exaust n seperate room exaust. Im thinkin now that summers here when i put my central air on itll b better pumpin 67° air in the room as opposed to 71° warm air so itll be alil cooler. Im thinkin i need a dehumidifier too. But im trying to buy a house so i can renovate and add an intake for the room intake on both cooltubes and outake for tubes and can filter then add a 50A circuit and do climate controller w co2 dehumidifier and all that prolly add another light and 30 site add more sidelights and prolly upgrade to a can 66. Im glad i didnt go sog this time i was gona cuz ppl say thts best for aeroflos butt figured id see for myself glad i didnt tho cuz my tops are seriosly f*cked. Im just hoping theyll plump back up over the next 2 to 5 weeks. Also curious do you start your flower week count at 12 12 or preflower signs. Cuz ill be 8 weeks 12 12 in two weeks but id be 6 weeks preflower. Thanks for replies

Clawing does NOT come from heat and it was suggested that it was nutes but you dont want to listen so you tell us. YOu ask for help then disagree and then another poster also says heat and you go with that. Heat will make the plants not grow and the leaves show curling only on the edges, heat damage is very different looking than nute damage and watering issue, these show as the claw but you dont want to hear that. If your that far flowering it shouldnt matter anyway. Pics would help but if your describing clawing correctly then its NOT heat. Also I am not sure what you are asking about 12/12 you can change the lights whenever you want but should wait for the pre flowers to show. YOu say your 8 weeks flowering and just showing pre flowers? YOu definitely need pics for help as your all over the place. 71 degrees is not hot its perfect. Good luck

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Im not sure wat the temp is really i kno it was hot as hell before n my house stays at 70 and the rooms abit warmer then the house. But not much more i can do about heat. Cooltubes n exaust n seperate room exaust. Im thinkin now that summers here when i put my central air on itll b better pumpin 67° air in the room as opposed to 71° warm air so itll be alil cooler. Im thinkin i need a dehumidifier too. But im trying to buy a house so i can renovate and add an intake for the room intake on both cooltubes and outake for tubes and can filter then add a 50A circuit and do climate controller w co2 dehumidifier and all that prolly add another light and 30 site add more sidelights and prolly upgrade to a can 66. Im glad i didnt go sog this time i was gona cuz ppl say thts best for aeroflos butt figured id see for myself glad i didnt tho cuz my tops are seriosly f*cked. Im just hoping theyll plump back up over the next 2 to 5 weeks. Also curious do you start your flower week count at 12 12 or preflower signs. Cuz ill be 8 weeks 12 12 in two weeks but id be 6 weeks preflower. Thanks for replies

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Lol what the hell are you asking if you have to wait 12 weeks? 12 hours dark 12 hours light can be changed into after maturity to do it correctly and get better yields but some people 12/12 right from seed. It looks like you think 12 has something to do with weeks and think you should grow in the 60 degree range. I am calling BS on this post now as on one hand you say you have colas and they are fucked just because your leaves are clawing? I was duped, I dont think you even have any plants show us some pics not googled

Wtf. You guys are completely confused. I asked if you count flowering weeks from the day u go into 12/12 or from the day you get your first preflower. I am 6 weeks into 12 12 but it took two weeks to show preflowers. So if im counting weeks from 12 12 im 6 weeks if im counting from preflowers im 4 weeks. What doesnt anyone get there? All i asked is when do you start flower week count. I kno what 12 12 is i forceflower straight from clones. Now as far as the temp range i said and " my HOUSE pumps 71°" not my room i specifically said that as well as the room is abit warmer as to how much warmer i duno. I have no clue where you got these assumptions. I said itll be cooler when i have my central air on PUMPING 67° AIR so im sure itll drop it a few degrees.

also im not saying the clawed leaves arent a nute problem. Im just saying its hard to beleive when only my big plants got the claw. Ive had it plenty of times before just never had any cola issues before. Thats all im just unsure why they would only effect the top 6 or 7 inches from the top of only my big plants and the small ten inch plants on the side dont have the claw. They look perfect. Im jus saying if its nutes wouldnt they all show espicially the small ones? And its odd that it all stopped when i fixed the heat and RAISED my nute levels. I was at about 1000 now 1300ish. I def have signs of heat stress a few of the top leaves edges just the jagged part point up n look fried. So nute is hard to believe not impossible. There was def heat issues maybe stunted colas w deformed top leaves from heat andthe claws just alil overnute maybe a combo of both. All im asking is how to revive my colas

Oh. As far as the BS and googled pictures mr hardass, why the f*ck would i be looking for help for plants that dont exist? Who the hell does that. Thats like emailing microsoft asking them why my computers crashing when i dont have a computer. Thats just ignorant. Im only asking how to revive from heat stress. I kno claw leaves arent causing bad colas. Its heat. my.colas have been fine w claws never had heat stress before.

Ok for the record i jus bought a hygrothermometer and plant level temp is 85° and ceiling is 87° humidity is 45%.

Lol. All these growers and not one answer?

Ill ask again....

How do you cure a heat stressed plant?
When do you start your flower week count, do you start counting weeks as soon as you flip to 12 12 or do you start when you see your preflowers?

Example: im 6 weeks from the day i switched to 12 12.
However im only four weeks from when my flowers showed.

Ive done it counting from 12 12 and havent tried longer cuz i didnt wana overdue them. Just not sure if thats too early and i can have the two extra weeks.

Wow this forum is shitty. Buncha bums cant answer two simple questions. And super2200 you can suck my dick.

dripdrew said:

Wow this forum is shitty. Buncha bums cant answer two simple questions. And super2200 you can suck my dick.

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This forum isn't "shitty". You just came off like a dick that doesn't like the answers he's/she's given. So now most likely nobody will help you. I'm new to growing and have had many questions. Allm of which have been answered by experienced growers on this forum by either replies to posts or PMs.

Bottom line here is don't be a dick, dick.

well wasnt being a dick til i was accused of google-ing pics and all this other stuff you fucking faggot so go fuck yourself.

hard to get any real answers here. some times you will, but usually just guesses. im not going to guess. im gonna tell you to do a google search as well as any growing sites. you WILL find the answer someone has had this same prob before guaranteed. ive posted once or twice here and never got any real answers so i stopped. i let other people ask the questions for me... oh and by the way the search on this site sucks... GL.

dripdrew said:

well wasnt being a dick til i was accused of google-ing pics and all this other stuff you fucking faggot so go fuck yourself.

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guess I struck a nerve, haha.

dripdrew said:

Lol. All these growers and not one answer?

Ill ask again....

How do you cure a heat stressed plant?
When do you start your flower week count, do you start counting weeks as soon as you flip to 12 12 or do you start when you see your preflowers?

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You dont cure. They recover, if its even possible. Its like a person who has gotten brain damage, you cant cure that shit. the person recovers to the best of his/her ability. As far as being an additive of some sorts...i dont know. I'm still on the lower-mid rungs of experience.
Get your shit in the range it needs to be in. Mine is 77-81 @ day, 65-70 @ night. Each strain is different dude so do you research and make sure you can control the climate to where it needs to be. Thats all i got for ya.

Well thanks i aporeciate the answers i always ask and never any responses. What about flower week count? Count em from preflower or 12 12?


And i meant he said he wanted pics n said i was phony and google pics or somethn not google answers...

And no you didnt hit a nerve your just a douche n thats your problem not mine lol...

My temps have been 78 to 88 w humidity between 30 and 40%.
Not sure how else to keep temps down im running cooltubes/435cfm and 235 cfm canfan/filter exaust. I try using my central air but its not really hot enough outside to stay on yet... next grow it will n should run smooth