Help needed with tea recipe!!!!!!

hyroot said:
Condsidering all your posts have been filled with misinformation I doubt anyone cares or believes what you think.

Here you go.

https://www.cdc.gov/niosh/docs/97-146/
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"H. capsulatum grows in soils throughout the world. In the United States, the fungus is endemic and the proportion of people infected by H. capsulatum is higher in central and eastern states, especially along the valleys of the Ohio, Mississippi, and St. Lawrence rivers, and the Rio Grande. The fungus seems to grow best in soils having a high nitrogen content, especially those enriched with bird manure or bat droppings." You dumb ass it is in the freaking soil not in bat guano learn to read and comprehend what you read. it is enriched by bird and bat guano but the guano doesn't cause it. I ask you again to point out anything that I have posted that is not true or shut the fuck up.
 
backtracker said:
"H. capsulatum grows in soils throughout the world. In the United States, the fungus is endemic and the proportion of people infected by H. capsulatum is higher in central and eastern states, especially along the valleys of the Ohio, Mississippi, and St. Lawrence rivers, and the Rio Grande. The fungus seems to grow best in soils having a high nitrogen content, especially those enriched with bird manure or bat droppings." You dumb ass it is in the freaking soil not in bat guano learn to read and comprehend what you read. it is enriched by bird and bat guano but the guano doesn't cause it. I ask you again to point out anything that I have posted that is not true or shut the fuck up.
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Genius you don't think those spores end up on the buds. You don't think those pathogens are in the buds. Just like chemical nutes they're present in the flowers when you smoke and absorb them into your body .

Why do you consistently give bad info and argue with everyone. You've been wrong everytime too.
 
Rasta Roy said:
I don't think the guano makes my smoke taste harsh...but there's plenty of literature out there about the pathogen hazards of gardening with manures. And when growing for medicinal purposes, especially for people with aids or other immune crippling diseases that make them more prone to bacterial infections. These are important things to consider. But like I said, that's not me. So for my personal garden I'll still use it. I've noticed no difference between my vegan grown plants and my manure grown ones when it comes to the harshness of the smoke.
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If your soil is full of good bacteria and is not over fertilized the good bacteria and other microbes will overwhelm the bad ones and if the plant is handled properly it has very little chance of being contaminated. I rinse my personal smoke and there is a lot of crap on outdoor pot.
 
backtracker said:
If your soil is full of good bacteria and is not over fertilized the good bacteria and other microbes will overwhelm the bad ones and if the plant is handled properly it has very little chance of being contaminated. I rinse my personal smoke and there is a lot of crap on outdoor pot.
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Yeah even indoor smoke gets a lot of dust and crap on it. Budwashing is something everybody will be doing once the regulators come into the industry.

An independent group examining medical marijuana in Colorado, California, and Oregon found lots of contaminates. The majority of it crap from people's unwashed hands.
 
backtracker said:
"H. capsulatum grows in soils throughout the world. In the United States, the fungus is endemic and the proportion of people infected by H. capsulatum is higher in central and eastern states, especially along the valleys of the Ohio, Mississippi, and St. Lawrence rivers, and the Rio Grande. The fungus seems to grow best in soils having a high nitrogen content, especially those enriched with bird manure or bat droppings." You dumb ass it is in the freaking soil not in bat guano learn to read and comprehend what you read. it is enriched by bird and bat guano but the guano doesn't cause it. I ask you again to point out anything that I have posted that is not true or shut the fuck up.
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https://www.getbatsout.com/bat-guano-dangerous/
 
backtracker said:
If your soil is full of good bacteria and is not over fertilized the good bacteria and other microbes will overwhelm the bad ones and if the plant is handled properly it has very little chance of being contaminated. I rinse my personal smoke and there is a lot of crap on outdoor pot.
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Bacteria, and Fungi that are good for plants, are not necessarily good for human beings. Soil contains all sorts of fungi/bacteria that could KILL an immune compromised person. (Eg: People with aids, people who have recently received organ transplants, or had certain surgeries.)

Some of the most common bacteria/fungi in animal feces & soil (even composted) are E coli, salmonella, anthrax, and many more. Those with healthy immune systems will generally be fine, even when exposed to these, but someone without a healthy immune system -- not so much. The bacterial spores do not absorb into the plant.. they simply spread their spores everywhere, and the spores cling on to every part of the plant. The stems, leaves, buds, everything. Most spores can even survive being burned. So; they can end up in people's lungs.

My father actually almost died to e-coli. It was a rare type that spread to his spinal cord. It took the CDC doctors over a year to cure him.He was healthy when he got it.. so just imagine a sick person getting infected. Not cool. Especially if we are growing medicine for people. It's completely unethical to overlook something like this, no matter the reasoning. Anyone involved with growing, and selling medicinal herbs must uphold the highest of ethics when It comes to their products.

PS. I'm not trying to argue with you; just converse.
 
nobodies said:
Bacteria, and Fungi that are good for plants, are not necessarily good for human beings. Soil contains all sorts of fungi/bacteria that could KILL an immune compromised person. (Eg: People with aids, people who have recently received organ transplants, or had certain surgeries.)

Some of the most common bacteria/fungi in animal feces & soil (even composted) are E coli, salmonella, anthrax, and many more. Those with healthy immune systems will generally be fine, even when exposed to these, but someone without a healthy immune system -- not so much. The bacterial spores do not absorb into the plant.. they simply spread their spores everywhere, and the spores cling on to every part of the plant. The stems, leaves, buds, everything. Most spores can even survive being burned. So; they can end up in people's lungs.

My father actually almost died to e-coli. It was a rare type that spread to his spinal cord. It took the CDC doctors over a year to cure him.He was healthy when he got it.. so just imagine a sick person getting infected. Not cool. Especially if we are growing medicine for people. It's completely unethical to overlook something like this, no matter the reasoning. Anyone involved with growing, and selling medicinal herbs must uphold the highest of ethics when It comes to their products.

PS. I'm not trying to argue with you; just converse.
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100% agree. A lot of growers are gonna be in for a cold awakening once a regulatory firm steps in and starts making us grow our medicine like it's actually medicine.
 
Rasta Roy said:
100% agree. A lot of growers are gonna be in for a cold awakening once a regulatory firm steps in and starts making us grow our medicine like it's actually medicine.
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I think that's a good thing though. I already like that dispensaries check for mold, fungi when herbs are sent in to labs. When you grow medicinal herbs that corporations buy to make their products, your product has to have a very low percentage of even common bacteria, fungi. Even spores are counted. I'm sure it will soon be this way with marijuana.
 
nobodies said:
I think that's a good thing though. I already like that dispensaries check for mold, fungi when herbs are sent in to labs. When you grow medicinal herbs that corporations buy to make their products, your product has to have a very low percentage of even common bacteria, fungi. Even spores are counted. I'm sure it will soon be this way with marijuana.
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The dispensaries here are not that strict yet. They'll do a spot check, but a good majority don't require a lab test.

I lab test my stuff for the sake of my patients and to ensure quality control. And because when the regulators do come in, I can say that I've been complying since before I had to. Anyone that isn't will find themselves out of the growing business before too long.
 
hyroot said:
Genius you don't think those spores end up on the buds. You don't think those pathogens are in the buds. Just like chemical nutes they're present in the flowers when you smoke and absorb them into your body .

Why do you consistently give bad info and argue with everyone. You've been wrong everytime too.
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The problem with you is that you are to stupid to know when you are wrong. I don't grow in soil from the Midwest I don't live in the Midwest I don't grow in soil period so there is no way the bacteria can get in my grow from the bat guano because it doesn't have it, do you comprehend that?
 
nobodies said:
Bacteria, and Fungi that are good for plants, are not necessarily good for human beings. Soil contains all sorts of fungi/bacteria that could KILL an immune compromised person. (Eg: People with aids, people who have recently received organ transplants, or had certain surgeries.)

Some of the most common bacteria/fungi in animal feces & soil (even composted) are E coli, salmonella, anthrax, and many more. Those with healthy immune systems will generally be fine, even when exposed to these, but someone without a healthy immune system -- not so much. The bacterial spores do not absorb into the plant.. they simply spread their spores everywhere, and the spores cling on to every part of the plant. The stems, leaves, buds, everything. Most spores can even survive being burned. So; they can end up in people's lungs.

My father actually almost died to e-coli. It was a rare type that spread to his spinal cord. It took the CDC doctors over a year to cure him.He was healthy when he got it.. so just imagine a sick person getting infected. Not cool. Especially if we are growing medicine for people. It's completely unethical to overlook something like this, no matter the reasoning. Anyone involved with growing, and selling medicinal herbs must uphold the highest of ethics when It comes to their products.

PS. I'm not trying to argue with you; just converse.
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You call someone a lair and then can't back it up that's my problem with you because you keep saying I post misinformation but can't show where. You really need to read a book called Teaming With Microbes.
 
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Wiggly Worm castings has a recipe right on the back. If I remember correctly it's 1 part castings 3 parts water. let it aerate 12-24 hours. Discard after 24 hours. You can get a long lasting air stone and pump for extremely cheap at walmart in the aquarium section.

I do this but only add about roughly half the amount of worm castings. I use RO water. Add calmag, bat guano super tea mix(.5 .5 .01), Nectar for the gods Mega morpheus which is also a guano tea (0-2-0), Nectar For The Gods Aphrodites Extraction (0-1-0) which is sugars, jellyfish mycos(2-2-6), Azos(more mycos), a pinch of humic acid. Of coarse you don't need all this extra shit. For all I know it might not even be doing a whole lot extra. I change things from time to time. The best tea is whatever works best for you. Copy the recipe that sounds the best to you and experiment from there. Have fun and good luck.

Also one thing about adding nutrients to your tea mix is too high of an NPK can kill your beneficial microbes. Most of the additives out there are snake oils. Some of the stuff I use I'm sure is but would rather it didn't go to waste. To be honest I havent even really noticed much of a difference since using teas. I use a super soil mix. Just RO water was actually working great. I just like experimenting. Do what works best for you.
 
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backtracker said:
The problem with you is that you are to stupid to know when you are wrong. I don't grow in soil from the Midwest I don't live in the Midwest I don't grow in soil period so there is no way the bacteria can get in my grow from the bat guano because it doesn't have it, do you comprehend that?
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LOL....do you really think guano is sterile? Bacteria is everywhere...literally.
 
waterproof808 said:
LOL....do you really think guano is sterile? Bacteria is everywhere...literally.[/QUOTE
learn to fucking read before responding. the conversation was about a bacteria found in soil in the Midwest what I said was bat shit doesn't have it it is in the soil and I didn't say bat shit is sterile so take your lol and shove it.
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