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propachonga · Aug 21, 2012

I have a problem please help my leaves are really dropping as if they are dying can I salvage them the bottom leaves they are turning yellow to I have a pictiure of one but they all turning the same at first they were quite bushy and plenty if leaves now its as if they are less leaves more spaced out. i have added some pictures. please help!!!

insan3 · Aug 21, 2012

I am not a soil person but looks underwater or overwater. hopefully some 1 with soil xp while shiny some info.

Foothills · Aug 21, 2012

Looks like you are either over or under watering your plants.The symptoms are the same.Think about what you have been doing and you should be able to figure it out. Good luck !!

umm=teehee · Aug 21, 2012

yes it's over or under water from what I can tell from my research.. but think fast she doesn't look like she has much left in her :-(

propachonga · Aug 21, 2012

i'm more confident thats its over watering as the last couple of waterings they seemed to drain alot quicker. i have taken them out of their pots checked the roots and they are still white. any ideas of how i could revive them as quickly as possible. when i saw the lower leaves turing yellow i thought this was nitrogen deficiency so i misted all leaves quite alot with 5ml per litre nitrozyne.

propachonga · Aug 21, 2012

i have also misted the leaves with fish mix earlier in the grow as i noticed small holes on the leaves which I obviuosly thought would be pests getting inside my tent god knows how though??
Is it not a good idea to foilar spray at the same time as watering??
I have always ph'd the runoff water and i was getting 7.0 there abouts...
the humidity is a right challenge to control and the temps can be as the weather as been really warm outside recently.

ru4r34l · Aug 21, 2012

insan3 said:
I am not a soil person but looks underwater or overwater. hopefully some 1 with soil xp while shiny some info.

Foothills said:
Looks like you are either over or under watering your plants.The symptoms are the same.Think about what you have been doing and you should be able to figure it out. Good luck !!

umm=teehee said:
yes it's over or under water from what I can tell from my research.. but think fast she doesn't look like she has much left in her

It cannot be both folks, telling the OP it can be either or is not really helping. :wall:

Here is some info, hopefully it helps:

Over watered plants will have leaves that are full of water and will be firm when touched and generally curl down from the stem.

Under watered plants will have leaves that are brittle, limp, and lifeless. The leaves will droop but will not appear rounded and full as the over watered plants.

By these descriptions your plants seem to be under watered, pictures and info are not mine.

regards,

Foothills · Aug 21, 2012

Mist the leaves with clean water and cut back on the watering.They should come back fine.

insan3 · Aug 21, 2012

If its over water then let the soil dry up a bit.

propachonga · Aug 21, 2012

thanx alot i see what you mean that it wouldnt be both, everyday a school dy hey

propachonga · Aug 21, 2012

Thanyou ever so much evry1 massively appreciate the replies as I am a total rookie lol. You will have to forgive me with regards to my explanations and pic uploads as I am also totally new to forums altogether and this is the 1st ive ever joined and posted on...

Foothills · Aug 21, 2012

ru4r34l said:
It cannot be both folks, telling the OP it can be either or is not really helping.

I don't think anyone implied it could be both.Sounds like he got it figured out by thinking back a little,just as I had hoped.
Thanks for posting the pics.It's pretty easy to see the difference side by side.

propachonga · Aug 21, 2012

The soil is really dry on top however when i have removed a plant from its pot its quite damp round the edge of the soil. The roots are in quite good condition still white so i dont think theres any sign of root rot. any ideas of what i could do next as im stuck. I guess its due to overwatering them due to the last few waterings have been draining quite quickly and i havent had to give them as much water in the last few waterings as in the first.

insan3 · Aug 21, 2012

What are u using for soil? It shoukd be drain about the same everytime as long as the consistance of the soil is maintain

Foothills · Aug 21, 2012

It sounds like your soil mix is not absorbing or holding the water.What type of soil mix are they planted in?

propachonga · Aug 21, 2012

plagoron lightmix

scroglodyte · Aug 21, 2012

tell us how you water................

propachonga · Aug 21, 2012

With 2ltr jug into soil and ive also foilar sprayed once with nitrozyme and once with fishmix. Ive just found out that a watering can with a sprinkler sprout would be more appropriate so will use that from now on to prevent disturbing roots etc, i didnt use any fertilizers until 3 week from seeed.
I just watered basically when the soil dry approx 1inch deep. 3 week from seed i watered with 2.5ml/ 2litre with biogrow only. 4 days later i watered with 2ml/ 2litre Bio Root Juice and at the same time misted all leaves plenty with 2ml/ 2litre bio fishmix. From then the leaves bega to turn yellow with brown spots near edges. By 8 days later I had completely yellow leaves on the bottom node of every plant with 1 or two leaves dead. 3 days later i sprayed leaves with nitrozyme 5ml/ 1litre quite a lot again. And now today (5 days later) they look like they are at deaths door :/
I amgetting closer and closer to the dea that ive just basically fed too close together without plain waterings in betweeen which is why they are now ery droopy?????

Foothills · Aug 21, 2012

My advice would be to get rid of the bio this and bio that,along with the root juice.Go to Walmart and pick up a box of Miracle-Gro All Purpose 24-8-16 for future use.In the mean time just stick with your plain watering's and keep an eye on them.When you do start fertilizing again,start it at half strength and watch your plants.Don't worry about using the fancy products,your plants don't need them and they can and will screw things up on ya. Best of Luck !! :-P

imchucky666 · Aug 21, 2012

Looks like you're overwatered, and sounds like you're overthinking.
I would follow foothills if it was me.

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