Here comes Global Cooling!!

ccodiane

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Well I live in western canada and over the last 10 years we barely have snow. 10 years ago it would be -30C right now with 6 Ft of snow now its + 4 C with about six inches of snow. Its very rare we even have a white xmass anymore.
You'd think you'd be happy about that?
 

creeder

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Well its ok but if you have 4 snowmobiles and like to ski its suck. And its allways nice when we used to get huge snow storms that would shut down the province for a few days. That = party time.
 

ccodiane

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Well its ok but if you have 4 snowmobiles and like to ski its suck. And its allways nice when we used to get huge snow storms that would shut down the province for a few days. That = party time.
Well that does sound like fun!
 

fdd2blk

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Well its ok but if you have 4 snowmobiles and like to ski its suck. And its allways nice when we used to get huge snow storms that would shut down the province for a few days. That = party time.

in 20 years you'll only talk about these years as "remember when.......". :mrgreen:
as you ski down the mountain. :blsmoke:
 

justin2937

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Yeah lets take the advice of an astrophysiscist on the climate because we are to dumb to know what astrophysicist study, and its sounds important, its long word and is scientist so we can say he is scientist so he must be an expert.......If if you want info on the climate and the history of earths climate ask a climatologists since they are experts in the field...........if you wanted an experts advice on biology would you ask a biologist or a lawyer..............would you trust a lawyer to do surgery on you, or would you want a trained professional such as medical surgeon?
When you're talking about trends you better make sure as fuck you ask a statistician. All of those graphs of warming trends are bullshit when looked at objectively.
 

natrone23

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Astrophysicist is a long important sounding word? You need to go back to school.
Now what would I learn about if I went to school to be a Astrophysicist?.....................Would it have anything to do about Earths climate? Would I be considered and Expert on Climatology if I go to school to be an Astrophysicist?
 

justin2937

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Now what would I learn about if I went to school to be a Astrophysicist?.....................Would it have anything to do about Earths climate? Would I be considered and Expert on Climatology if I go to school to be an Astrophysicist?
From: Astrophysics - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Astrophysics is the branch of astronomy that deals with the physics of the universe, including the physical properties (luminosity, density, temperature, and chemical composition) of celestial objects such as stars, galaxies, and the interstellar medium, as well as their interactions. The study of OpenDNS is theoretical astrophysics at the largest scales where Albert Einstein's general theory of relativity plays a major role.



They study stars, ie the Sun, ie the virtually the soul source of energy in the solar system, and only main contributer to the heating and cooling of earth. They all say that it's the sun's natural cycle. But then again, what WOULD they know, they're not climatologists.
 

ccodiane

New Member
Now what would I learn about if I went to school to be a Astrophysicist?.....................Would it have anything to do about Earths climate? Would I be considered and Expert on Climatology if I go to school to be an Astrophysicist?
You seem to be an expert on all subject already. I don't think you need to learn any more. You're all full up.
 

ccodiane

New Member
Thanks for the compliment, but I will continue to learn, I think it is a virtue
Quite true. Here's something for you then. Opinions are, well opinions, and facts are, you got it, facts. This could help you take it to the next level, distinguishing the two.
 

tahoe58

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many many moons ago....a colleague said to me.....you know what an expert is....."x" for the unknown, and "spurt" for a drip underpressure.....everyones an expert in their own mind.....learning and an open mind are good. walk on folks!
 

ccodiane

New Member
What opinions have I stated on this thread?
I was referring to your Israel bias, and the positions you've taken because of it. Very similar to what your doing here. You're bias is against anyone who doesn't believe what you believe, regardless of their credentials. Yeah, fuck an astrophysicist. What could they possibly know/contribute? Real "open".
 

medicineman

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Maybe all you global warming naysayers should listen to the people that live in the north country that tell you they haven't seen warm winters like these last 20 years since they were born. They may have some insight we don't have. Like they are afraid to drive on lakes that they used to because of thin ice, the snow is too light to offer skiing at some of the places they skied for years, etc.
 

natrone23

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I was referring to your Israel bias, and the positions you've taken because of it. Very similar to what your doing here. You're bias is against anyone who doesn't believe what you believe, regardless of their credentials. Yeah, fuck an astrophysicist. What could they possibly know/contribute? Real "open".
Bias I could say the same thing about you....that your bias is against anyone who doesn't believe what you believe, you see what I'm saying? Just because are interpratations are different doesn't mean you are are biased or I'm biased, we just have a disagreament. If want to disagree with me about are policy towards Israel state your opinions on that thread. My point about the Astophysicist is that is an appeal to authority..........but the problem is that they are authorities in the field of Astrophysics, but not in the field of climatology or paleoclimatology. Athough their is no way to prove to you that I am "open" and you might not believe me, I have changed my mind before, I have no problem with changing my mind in the future in lieu evidence and facts.
 

ccodiane

New Member
Maybe all you global warming naysayers should listen to the people that live in the north country that tell you they haven't seen warm winters like these last 20 years since they were born. They may have some insight we don't have. Like they are afraid to drive on lakes that they used to because of thin ice, the snow is too light to offer skiing at some of the places they skied for years, etc.
One lifetime, hundreds of lifetimes, means nothing in the larger scheme of things. Is this beyond your intellect and understanding? Is a billion just a million with a "b"? Does the largeness of numbers not impress you? Unreal.
 

justin2937

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Maybe all you global warming naysayers should listen to the people that live in the north country that tell you they haven't seen warm winters like these last 20 years since they were born. They may have some insight we don't have. Like they are afraid to drive on lakes that they used to because of thin ice, the snow is too light to offer skiing at some of the places they skied for years, etc.
Like I said, read any statistician's take. It all part of the Law of Large Numbers. I have realized liberals really do have a problem with probability, and understanding this. It's warming now, but it's cooled in the past, and it will cool again later, and it all evens out. May not happen in my lifetime, but it will happen. Despite what you think, the earth and the sun and everything in between is dynamic, not static.
 

ccodiane

New Member
Bias I could say the same thing about you....that your bias is against anyone who doesn't believe what you believe, you see what I'm saying? Just because are interpratations are different doesn't mean you are are biased or I'm biased, we just have a disagreament. If want to disagree with me about are policy towards Israel state your opinions on that thread. My point about the Astophysicist is that is an appeal to authority..........but the problem is that they are authorities in the field of Astrophysics, but not in the field of climatology or paleoclimatology. Athough their is no way to prove to you that I am "open" and you might not believe me, I have changed my mind before, I have no problem with changing my mind in the future in lieu evidence and facts.
As with all scientific endeavors, the burden of proof is on the ones who propose a theory. It is not my responsibility to disprove Man Made Global Warming, it is my responsibility, as a rational human being, to ask questions, receive answers, and formulate my position based on the quality of the answer. All the evidence I've seen is circumstantial at best, and downright deceitful at worst. Modern weather monitoring equipment has been around for barely a hundred years, yet the information collected in these hundred years is used to support your theory. Its not reliable. The green house gas argument is flawed to the core. The most abundant green house gas, by far, is water vapor. No model, computer or otherwise, accounts for this. Global precipitation levels are vitally important to the earths cooling/warming trends. We have absolutely no idea what daily precipitation levels are around the globe. Without knowing this factor, any green house gas argument is flawed. Ice ages have been known to occur on a relatively regular basis, yet this fact seems unimportant to proponents of this "theory". The fact that the earths temps rise and fall on a regular basis, with or without human intervention. The pollution aspect of global warming has been the most insidious aspect of your argument. (You and Algore). Without even going into the negligible amounts of CO2 we, as a species, have contributed to the atmosphere since the start of the industrial revolution, the fact that growing industrialized nations, such as China and others, have not been asked to curtail their activities while the worlds elite point the finger at the USA as the major cause of Man Made Global Warming, is despicable. If the burning of fossil fuels is so terrible, why not call on all the worlds nations to suspend indefinitely these activities. Instead, the answer is for the US to pay for its transgressions against the environment. How convenient. Its a sham and you seem to be buying, based on faith of your religion, Environmentalism.
 

natrone23

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I have not said anything about global warming on this thread or my personal opinion about the environment.............but you accuse me of having faith in my religion of environmentilsm? strange
 
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