Hey someone told me that I should mix my urine in with water for my plants
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KuLong
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Real thread or not, troll or not, I will at least give advice on the subject in hopes that one day someone will find it and learn.
FACT: Number one rule, never pee directly on or around your plants. Period! You risk burning and/or killing them. Any other advice is giving from people who have absolutely no experience in this.
FACT: Dilute your urine to at least a 1/10 urine to water ratio. Your pots will not smell like a urinal. In fact, they will smell less then most other fertilizers out there.
OPTION: Do not use the urine from the first "go" of the day. Do some research on diet for best results.
OPINION: I never understood why peolpe have a problem with their own urine as fertilizer and have absolutely no problem with bat,bird, cow, chicken, horse, dog, cat, ect... shit.
FACT: Number one rule, never pee directly on or around your plants. Period! You risk burning and/or killing them. Any other advice is giving from people who have absolutely no experience in this.
FACT: Dilute your urine to at least a 1/10 urine to water ratio. Your pots will not smell like a urinal. In fact, they will smell less then most other fertilizers out there.
OPTION: Do not use the urine from the first "go" of the day. Do some research on diet for best results.
OPINION: I never understood why peolpe have a problem with their own urine as fertilizer and have absolutely no problem with bat,bird, cow, chicken, horse, dog, cat, ect... shit.
Bill Wilson
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Indians used urine leached and reconstituted with wood ash and fish emulsion.
This is primitive forms of getting fixated nitrogen from your piss, phosphates from the ash and potassium and micro boosters from fish guts.
I know its weird but it would make me feel more connected to my babies.
Big ???s "Is my urine organic considering my diet
This is primitive forms of getting fixated nitrogen from your piss, phosphates from the ash and potassium and micro boosters from fish guts.
I know its weird but it would make me feel more connected to my babies.
Big ???s "Is my urine organic considering my diet
Nullis
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Dog and cat shit = definite no no. The poop that is used as fertilizer can't come from just anywhere.
Herbivores only so far as poop goes. Typically the stuff is composted or pasteurized before it is sold as fertilizer. Bat and seabird guano should be from fruit or insect eaters which are not scavengers and also properly aged, fossilized or semi-fossilized. Urea isn't allowed for commercial organic production.
Just to add to this, it must be understood that there are definitely differences in the digestion systems and end products (feces) that results after digestion by strict herbivores versus carnivores or omnivores.
In the case of herbivores about 75% or more of the nutrients in the foods they eat are expelled from their bodies as waste. The way I look at it they are just virtual hosts for the colonies of microbes in their digestive tracts that are aiding in that digestion, initiating a process which is going to lead to plant available nutrients.
Herbivores only so far as poop goes. Typically the stuff is composted or pasteurized before it is sold as fertilizer. Bat and seabird guano should be from fruit or insect eaters which are not scavengers and also properly aged, fossilized or semi-fossilized. Urea isn't allowed for commercial organic production.
Just to add to this, it must be understood that there are definitely differences in the digestion systems and end products (feces) that results after digestion by strict herbivores versus carnivores or omnivores.
In the case of herbivores about 75% or more of the nutrients in the foods they eat are expelled from their bodies as waste. The way I look at it they are just virtual hosts for the colonies of microbes in their digestive tracts that are aiding in that digestion, initiating a process which is going to lead to plant available nutrients.
KuLong
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Yes, agreed. I was referring to people not having a "morale" problem using dog and cat shit (seen people use it from here) as fertilizer. I have seen multiple threads that has titles similar to, "my dog took a dump near my plants...".
Trying to get to the heart of why people think its taboo using your own urine when it is a very good organic fertilizer.
Nullis
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Some people probably just find it offensive that anybodies urine was anywhere near what they are ultimately going to be smoking, or that it could somehow be part of it... IDK.
I can only give you a technical reason why urine/urea nitrogen isn't great in organics, especially indoors. It has to do with the effect it has on soil microbial populations, it reduces their numbers at least temporarily. If I remember correctly it has to do with it being all or mostly ammoniacal nitrogen and/or the pH drop that occurs because of it. Outdoors this might not be such a big deal, or even desirable; but much less so in containers if you want maximum potential from soil biota at all times.
Human bodies also excrete lots of the water soluble metabolites that result from ingesting drugs/medicines/toxins/pollutants through urine.
I can only give you a technical reason why urine/urea nitrogen isn't great in organics, especially indoors. It has to do with the effect it has on soil microbial populations, it reduces their numbers at least temporarily. If I remember correctly it has to do with it being all or mostly ammoniacal nitrogen and/or the pH drop that occurs because of it. Outdoors this might not be such a big deal, or even desirable; but much less so in containers if you want maximum potential from soil biota at all times.
Human bodies also excrete lots of the water soluble metabolites that result from ingesting drugs/medicines/toxins/pollutants through urine.
Ryder on the Storm
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After you pee on your plants dont forget to get some LED lights. There the greatest.
Mel O'Cheddar
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Amateur hour.
chief blunts
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i was not gonna post here till now...
if you want these threads to stop appearing on the board, stop responding to them.
fact. trolls will leave when they are no longer stimulated, no one walks over the bridge, troll can no longer collect muniez, moves on to next bridge.
fact. op is probably smoking a bowl with his buds laughing at this thread right now, if not is probably high talking shit on youtube.
if you want these threads to stop appearing on the board, stop responding to them.
fact. trolls will leave when they are no longer stimulated, no one walks over the bridge, troll can no longer collect muniez, moves on to next bridge.
fact. op is probably smoking a bowl with his buds laughing at this thread right now, if not is probably high talking shit on youtube.
WestAussie
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I thought Urea wasn't allowed because it was industrially produced as a by-broduct of the petrochemical industry? Maybe I'm just making that up...
As for ruminants, yeah, they're like a host for gorgeous microbes that can work wonders in any compost. But that's not to say that E. coli, pseudomonas spp. and other nasties aren't rife in it too....
In China they've been using human waste as a fertilizer for centuries, so remember that next time you buy those shitty bleached garlic bulbs at the supermarket marked "Product of China".....
There are some experimental plantings of crops in Australia where they're using processed human waste. Apparently it's tip-top fertilizer, but they'll never license it for use on food-crops (understandible...).
WestAussie
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And Urea is easlily the most common source of nitrogenous fertiliser on the planet. With more than 40% of a bag of Urea being N it is easily the richest source of N for fertilisers. There are bacteria in soil that break down Urea into ammonia (using an enzyme called urease I think..) and others that break down the ammonia into nitrites, and then others still that convert the nitrite into nitrates which are then even more available to the plant. The issue with synthetic urea, as compared to that which comes out of your willy, is the presence of biuret which can affect plant growth.
So I say, troll thread or not, pissing in your res or into a bucket, adding water to it, and then pouring it on your plants, isn't a bad think at all.
I've been pissing on on tomatoes and lemon trees for years, and I get gorgeous crops.
Gin and tonic anyone?
So I say, troll thread or not, pissing in your res or into a bucket, adding water to it, and then pouring it on your plants, isn't a bad think at all.
I've been pissing on on tomatoes and lemon trees for years, and I get gorgeous crops.
Gin and tonic anyone?
Green Inferno
Active Member
Gin and Grapefruit. Simply Grapefruit brand grapefruit juice and good gin makes wonderful mixed drinks.And Urea is easlily the most common source of nitrogenous fertiliser on the planet. With more than 40% of a bag of Urea being N it is easily the richest source of N for fertilisers. There are bacteria in soil that break down Urea into ammonia (using an enzyme called urease I think..) and others that break down the ammonia into nitrites, and then others still that convert the nitrite into nitrates which are then even more available to the plant. The issue with synthetic urea, as compared to that which comes out of your willy, is the presence of biuret which can affect plant growth.
So I say, troll thread or not, pissing in your res or into a bucket, adding water to it, and then pouring it on your plants, isn't a bad think at all.
I've been pissing on on tomatoes and lemon trees for years, and I get gorgeous crops.
Gin and tonic anyone?
I'll pass on the peepee-tonics....
HighLowGrow
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Next time I take my trailer out camping, I will not dump my waste before I leave. (What a waste that would be.) When I get home and park over my outdoor garden, I'm going to pull the black lever and let it ffffllllloooowwwwwww. To dilute the CHUNKS, I will then open the gray lever. There will be lots of tp but that's ok, it SHOULD make a great mulch. The smell SHOULD go away within a few days.
Last year I had a neighbor that planted a veggie garden over her leach field. At harvest time, she bundled up some squash, tomatos, and cucumbers and brought them over. The next day my chickens were very happy.
-HLG
Last year I had a neighbor that planted a veggie garden over her leach field. At harvest time, she bundled up some squash, tomatos, and cucumbers and brought them over. The next day my chickens were very happy.
-HLG
jonblaze420
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Does human feces make good compost for weed soil? Is my next question.
anonymuss
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Ionized human waste is acceptable as it is deodorized and high in carbohydrates.
anonymuss
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HighLowGrow
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So if I understand this correctly, it is not a good idea to eat my own shit if I'm on the Atkins diet. Two girls one cup definately are not on the Atkins diet.