Hormones vs Co2 - Hormones Cheaper Potentially Yeild the Same!

IDEA!

RAW WHITE MUSHROOM (based on 39grms)
Potassium 223mg
Calcium 2.1 mg
Iron 0.3 mg
Magnesium 6.3mg

I am going to use about 20kg ( local mushroom farm ) and create a compost of mushrooms and seafood (ie:fish,shell fish, etc) with have alot of cytokinins! Creating a tea by flushing pile........
Could be a great organic female hormone tea.... for outdoors.....?????

sounds interesting.

Make organic tea....... from manure and your compost in 2-3 days
Get a clean container ( a bucket, a pail or large jug ), add a gallon of unchlorinated water, pour in what ever manure you intend to use. Bubble it with a cheap aquarium air pump / air stone for two days. Turn off pump, let settle for one hour & it's ready to pour into your feeding container.
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Now, some people put their manure in a sock of some sort, like an old sock, panty hose or a old pillow case. That is OK, but I like the extra manure to water interaction you get from direct contact. More surface area exposed - more nutrients transferred.
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Get two similar size containers ( a bucket, a pail or large jug ), add a gallon of unchlorinated water, pour in what ever manure you intend to use. Pour it from one container to the other a couple of times - twice daily for three days. Let settle for one hour, pour into your feeding container.

Bat Guano (Either - Higher N or P) 2 to 4 tablespoons per gallon of water.

Bunny Poop - one cup per gallon of water.

Cow Manure - three cups per gallon of water.

Chicken Manure - one cup per gallon of water.

Worm Castings - 4 tablespoons per gallon of water (people argue about this one the most0. They say more, more is better. I disagree - the NPK value of Worm Castings is only .1 % N (soluble) & .9 % (slow release) with a NPK value of only 1-0-0 Worm Castings will not be adding any real amounts of NPK. What they will add - trace minerals & benefical microogranisms (good bacteria & fungi) so, 4 tablespoons gets the job done.

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Add each of these at the rate of one cup, per gallon of unchlorinated water - unless noted otherwise.

Source N P K

Rabbit manure 2.4-1.4-.6
Cow manure (dairy) .6-.2-.5 Both cow manures (3) cups per gallon.
Steer manure (beef) .7-.3-.4
Chicken manure 1.1-.8-.5
Horse manure .7-.3-.6
Duck manure .6-1.4-.5
Sheep manure .7-.3-.9
Worm castings 1.0-.0-.0 (4) tablespoons per gallon
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See not hard, just basic math....
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Ok & one more just for fun : Elephant Poop is 1-.9-.6 on average (plus it is almost odor free).
Hotlink about Zoo Doo...

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpag...56C0A964958260
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how bout human shit? I got a lot of that. (just playing). Nice chart though.

shepj said:

how bout human shit? I got a lot of that. (just playing). Nice chart though.

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Im not sure....but No joke 1/3 of the world do........ most 3rd word countries use human fecial to fert there eatting harvest just not witin 90 days from harest for eatting veggy. Known GOOD fert for centuries, so I guess you could find out, but it would vary depending on your consumption, where as most animal shit is predictable..... they only eat a couple of things.....

human feces is more or less, dangerous. We have a lot of bacteria in our food, body, hence, our shit. So it isn't nearly as sanitary as say, cow manure.

shepj said:

human feces is more or less, dangerous. We have a lot of bacteria in our food, body, hence, our shit. So it isn't nearly as sanitary as say, cow manure.

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i agree....But -Bacteria is good in alot of forms...some not, but the TOXINS in our excretion from our habitis is my concern....

right on. Kinda like you can dilute urine into water for plants.

shepj said:

right on. Kinda like you can dilute urine into water for plants.

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Ther are two good things in piss... Urea and Nitrogen, but at the levels verse the toxins its just not worth the time! You are more likely to be slowly poisioning your plant...

Heard a cup to a gallon works wonders man

shepj said:

Heard a cup to a gallon works wonders man

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I think you will find that is reports from first or second time growers.... You will probably find that the fact they didnt over fert there plants they grew well...thought piss helped..... natural fact soil contains nitrogen already.
IMO dont believe half the shit posted in these forums they are highly missleading...... If you want nitrogen worm casting tea is the best organic form.

worm casting tea.. do you think I could sell that to freshman and tell them it will get them high? lol... thx

shepj said:

worm casting tea.. do you think I could sell that to freshman and tell them it will get them high? lol... thx

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its diluted worm shit......lol you could try!

Will do.

Would you like to help me real quick? I need a really basic idea for replacing some soil for an outdoor grow. I have a local home depot (which at the moment actually has a lot of gardening soil), can you recommend me one?

shepj said:

Will do.

Would you like to help me real quick? I need a really basic idea for replacing some soil for an outdoor grow. I have a local home depot (which at the moment actually has a lot of gardening soil), can you recommend me one?

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For me - (im australia so brands are not going to help)
for outdoors i USE -
the best seeding soil i can find,
coco fiber, (1:5soil)
a few water crystals,
Cow shit/ compost - diluted and strained 3or 4 times (1;10soil) ( over the soil)
peat moss (1:10soil)
perlite (1:5soil)
potash - 1/2 hand full
worm castings 1:10soil
drench in SEASOL & water in before plant
always a bit of pebble at very bottom of pot or hole for drainage....

THIS IS A DRY WEATHER MIX......

Sounds good, I figured I'd ask you, some of the twats on here can't tell me their head from their ass, and I can tell you don't fit into that lot. I was going to go slightly more simple than that, but the general idea is the same.

shepj said:

Sounds good, I figured I'd ask you, some of the twats on here can't tell me their head from their ass, and I can tell you don't fit into that lot. I was going to go slightly more simple than that, but the general idea is the same.

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Simple:
Good soil ( it wont matter that much )
worm castings 1:10soil
coco fiber 1:5 soil
And get a mulch for a insulating layer ( or on top)- like sugar cane, straw, pebbles, anything really, use your grass clippings.....

I was gonna dig a real big fucking hole..

Fill the bottom with perlite maybe? Then mix the wormies with some soil (maybe I can find organic) I don't remember the ratio I need but I'll find it lol. And I've no idea what in the hell coco fibre is.

shepj said:

I was gonna dig a real big fucking hole..

Fill the bottom with perlite maybe? Then mix the wormies with some soil (maybe I can find organic) I don't remember the ratio I need but I'll find it lol. And I've no idea what in the hell coco fibre is.

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Perlite is a water sponge.... you dont want that on bottom.....
Mix it in with soil at 1:5soil, that is a perfect grow medium as far as density.

If your soil is clay then you need some gardening lime - which is at local nursery, this will break down the clay, with a couple of hand fulls per 1sq meter, this will help on root production.if not your sweet..
pebbles or rock layer on bottom will allow for drainage.... maybey juat mixin a few good bags of soil with what you dig out..... will help with densitiy also...


And get a compost bin going...... just cut the bottom off a plastic bin place it on the lawn and start filling with food scraps - not meat. And the worms will come...just lift side grab shovel and grab a spade full of muk from bottom and dillute......
coco fiber - is coconut fiber smashed cocnut skins- highly used in hydro ..pretty new to agriculture.... has netural PH and NPK values.

1:5 I will jot this down . Yeah the soil here, in most parts is shit.. very very thick clay.

so lime breaks that up? Huh no shit.. I always used to chop up mushrooms (not psychedelic ones) and put it in the soil and it always came out black.. was orgasmic.