How can we achieve a living wage?

ColoradoHighGrower

ColoradoHighGrower

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From what I've heard, we could just take the annual tax break the wealthiest single household in the US now recieves with chump's new tax bill, and make college free for every single American wanting to better their lives. Yes, thats right. One tax payer's exemptions can now pay for the whole lot, every year... that'd be a good start anyway... Oh, and get rid of all politicians that are in bed with the pharma and insurance industries.... That would be one of the biggest game changers for both individuals and small business owners.
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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ColoradoHighGrower said:
From what I've heard, we could just take the annual tax break the wealthiest single household in the US now recieves with chump's new tax bill, and make college free for every single American wanting to better their lives. Yes, thats right. One tax payer's exemptions can now pay for the whole lot, every year... that'd be a good start anyway... Oh, and get rid of all politicians that are in bed with the pharma and insurance industries.... That would be one of the biggest game changers for both individuals and small business owners.
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So, in this "free college" where would you get the money to pay the instructors and for the infrastructure ?

Also, if a person didn't want to pay for something for another person, are you okay with taking a gun to them and making them pay for things you like, but they don't care for ? Just curious.
 
abalonehx

abalonehx

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All while preaching that Socialism is Evil. They rob your future while distracting you with a fake religion and divide them with tribal racism.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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Rob Roy said:
So, in this "free college" where would you get the money to pay the instructors and for the infrastructure ?

Also, if a person didn't want to pay for something for another person, are you okay with taking a gun to them and making them pay for things you like, but they don't care for ? Just curious.
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Hey everyone, the barter system guy has prescient economic insights to share
 
Fogdog

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UncleBuck said:
Hey everyone, the barter system guy has prescient economic insights to share
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Isn't that the same guy whose DIY solar power system can't run a refrigerator so he keeps his beer cool at a neighbor's? He's more of mooch than a barter system guy in reality. All of those "I should only pay for what I use" types are really just cheap or dirt poor and don't want to be honest about it.
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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UncleBuck said:
Hey everyone, the barter system guy has prescient economic insights to share
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So, that almost sounds like in an attempt to "rebut" my ideas, (which you fail miserably at) you need to run away from an actual rebuttal and instead focus on some fallacious aspect of my person.

Still winning.

 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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ColoradoHighGrower said:
From what I've heard, we could just take the annual tax break the wealthiest single household in the US now recieves with chump's new tax bill, and make college free for every single American wanting to better their lives. Yes, thats right. One tax payer's exemptions can now pay for the whole lot, every year... that'd be a good start anyway... Oh, and get rid of all politicians that are in bed with the pharma and insurance industries.... That would be one of the biggest game changers for both individuals and small business owners.
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We could pay for free college tuition with plenty left over to for several other programs with tax cut money.

annualized cost of the Republican tax cut: $230 Billion (link)
Cost of Bernie's free college tuition plan: $75 Billion
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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Fogdog said:
Isn't that the same guy whose DIY solar power system can't run a refrigerator so he keeps his beer cool at a neighbor's? He's more of mooch than a barter system guy in reality. All of those "I should only pay for what I use" types are really just cheap or dirt poor and don't want to be honest about it.
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Fogdog said:
We could pay for free college tuition with plenty left over to for several other programs with tax cut money.

annualized cost of the Republican tax cut: $230 Billion (link)
Cost of Bernie's free college tuition plan: $75 Billion
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When you declare all the things "we" could do when absconding with other peoples money, it makes you sound kind of rapey and thievish.

Forgive me, I'm trying to catch on to your logic, does this mean you'll be buying me a new refrigerator now? Thanks!
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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Rob Roy said:
When you declare all the things "we" could do when absconding with other peoples money, it makes you sound kind of rapey and thievish.

Forgive me, I'm trying to catch on to your logic, does this mean you'll be buying me a new refrigerator now? Thanks!
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You have to consent to taxes bartertard
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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Rob Roy said:
When you declare all the things "we" could do when absconding with other peoples money, it makes you sound kind of rapey and thievish.

Forgive me, I'm trying to catch on to your logic, does this mean you'll be buying me a new refrigerator now? Thanks!
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not interested in arguing with you about your religious beliefs.
 
Budley Doright

Budley Doright

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Lucky Luke said:
Are you talking universal wage or liveable wage?
If your talking a universal wage then by choosing to not work you are helping someone who needs the extra money find work.
If your talking a liveable wage then I don't see how you are paying anything to them? That's their employer and if they couldn't earn more than they are paid then the job wouldn't exist.
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Yes your right as I guess I’m off topic. I was referring to a guaranteed wage .... totally different thing. But that is, if I’m not confused (probably am lol), the same as a universal wage in that your tax dollars fund it. So by not working I’m taking your hard paid tax dollars to live a life of relative comfort (all individual perspective). But in the other hand maybe the person not working has a valid reason for not. Like I said, I’m have not decided if it’s a good or bad thing. Lots of discussion here right now.

https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2018/08/09/doug-ford-basic-income-question-bomb-landmine-threat_a_23499469/
 
Budley Doright

Budley Doright

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Rob Roy said:
When you declare all the things "we" could do when absconding with other peoples money, it makes you sound kind of rapey and thievish.

Forgive me, I'm trying to catch on to your logic, does this mean you'll be buying me a new refrigerator now? Thanks!
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So just to clarify. You think taxes should be abolished and you classify them as theft? I just want to be clear. Can you clarify how things would work re infrastructure, etc. in this utopia please.
 
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schuylaar

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Budley Doright said:
Biggest dream of all is to own a house but what happened down south was a crime and the biggest thieves were the Trumps and such, that made trillions off the backs of mostly hard working people. They were over extended then their house values crashed and mortgages came due. Mortgages that were given to people that should never have qualified, bundled and sold by the elites. Millions made by the rich and millions lost by the middle class, shit is happening here now to a lesser extent.
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teachers in McMansions..'it's okay you can refi in a year or two'.
 
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