How far from flip?

Steveo123

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This was lastnight. I hit them with the canna Terra flores and boost accelerator. All are stretching (except for the dam bubba kush) and most are showing hairs. Next feed I'm gonna give them another shot of PK. Temp is between 18 and 24 degrees celsius. Humidity is a bit high at 75. I'll Chuck a dehumidifier in soon. Everything seems to be happy so I'm happy to
All looking good it the tent buddy! You start to be getting to the ending is stretching and the budding sites should be forming nicely.. over the week it's going to be nice to see there put their full energy into flower! Happy times....
 

Harvest76

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Time doesnt matter as much as size and your goals. You can veg them forever, if you have the space and desire. I usually aim for around 6 weeks from seed pop, because experience tells me they will be about a foot or so tall after topping and training, and I aim for 2-3 foot plants. They look nice! And mist away during veg. No harm in daily foliar feeding, but do it an hour or so before the lights come on so they have time to feed and dry before the stoma close for the day shift. Dont mist during light hours, as the beads of water will magnify the light and may damage the leaves. I stop foliar feeding about a week or so after flip. Keep up the good work!
 

OldMedUser

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Humidity is a bit high at 75. I'll Chuck a dehumidifier in soon. Everything seems to be happy so I'm happy too
High humidity is fine in early flower so I wouldn't worry about getting it down. It's later when the buds are stacking up into colas that you need to get it down to prevent bud rot.

My humidity is barely 40% atm and will get lower as winter moves in. I just flipped my two kush on Friday and will be trying to raise the RH. Our tap water is from a dugout on my property and is 400+ppm so just clogs up humidifiers right way. Just in the process of ordering the parts I need to install a reverse osmosis system so will have lots of cheap, clean water to waste on keeping the RH up. Now to find one of those fogger units to stick in the corner and do that job.

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RobMac315

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High humidity is fine in early flower so I wouldn't worry about getting it down. It's later when the buds are stacking up into colas that you need to get it down to prevent bud rot.

My humidity is barely 40% atm and will get lower as winter moves in. I just flipped my two kush on Friday and will be trying to raise the RH. Our tap water is from a dugout on my property and is 400+ppm so just clogs up humidifiers right way. Just in the process of ordering the parts I need to install a reverse osmosis system so will have lots of cheap, clean water to waste on keeping the RH up. Now to find one of those fogger units to stick in the corner and do that job.

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How's it old fella. Man I'm really struggling with this humidity though. I checked lastnight and was 98!!! I put my exhaust on full-time and temps were hovering at 20degrees c. I think I really should just put the demidifier in on low and see how that goes.
 

OldMedUser

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How's it old fella. Man I'm really struggling with this humidity though. I checked lastnight and was 98!!! I put my exhaust on full-time and temps were hovering at 20degrees c. I think I really should just put the demidifier in on low and see how that goes.
Getting 98% after lights out I assume? That is a bit too much for sure so your intake air must be pretty high RH too or you're not running the exhaust fan and normal plant transpiration is raising the RH too much. I have a temp/RH controller on my exhaust so it runs when either gets higher than it's set at.

Too high or too low they're both a PITA! :D

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Harvest76

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High humidity is fine in early flower so I wouldn't worry about getting it down. It's later when the buds are stacking up into colas that you need to get it down to prevent bud rot.

My humidity is barely 40% atm and will get lower as winter moves in. I just flipped my two kush on Friday and will be trying to raise the RH. Our tap water is from a dugout on my property and is 400+ppm so just clogs up humidifiers right way. Just in the process of ordering the parts I need to install a reverse osmosis system so will have lots of cheap, clean water to waste on keeping the RH up. Now to find one of those fogger units to stick in the corner and do that job.

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We have shit municipal water from a well system. 400ppm on good days. I put in a RH system at the kitchen sink and it works great, though I'm constantly planning my waterings and collecting water since it doesnt work nonstop. I also picked up a fogger humidifier and it works great. I use the water from my basement dehumidifier in it without problems. Good luck to you, I'm sure you'll be happy with the upgrades.
 

Harvest76

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How's it old fella. Man I'm really struggling with this humidity though. I checked lastnight and was 98!!! I put my exhaust on full-time and temps were hovering at 20degrees c. I think I really should just put the demidifier in on low and see how that goes.
If you're in a tent, try running a dehumidifier outside the tent and bringing down the overall humidity being drawn in. It works for me! I can manipulate my RH between 40-70% between the dehumidifier outside the tent and a small humidifier in it when necessary.
 

RobMac315

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If you're in a tent, try running a dehumidifier outside the tent and bringing down the overall humidity being drawn in. It works for me! I can manipulate my RH between 40-70% between the dehumidifier outside the tent and a small humidifier in it when necessary.
No can do. I'm out in a damp old rickity shed
 

F80M4

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You should've pruned before you flipped, I wouldn't add any PK boosters right now. Count the days the moment you start seeing bud. From that day 2 weeks exactly start using your pk. Don't over prune fan leaves. Just enough for light to reach down. Any lower branches not at main canopy line cut them off. Prune again at week 2. Just to clear for light. I think someone above mentioned bugs. If you have bugs right now get some horticulture oil blast them 2 times a day everyday for 7 days. Also if you spraying the plants spray the pot the ground the walls the entrance everything. Obviously not the light. Hope all works well for you!
 

OldMedUser

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You should've pruned before you flipped, I wouldn't add any PK boosters right now. Count the days the moment you start seeing bud. From that day 2 weeks exactly start using your pk. Don't over prune fan leaves. Just enough for light to reach down. Any lower branches not at main canopy line cut them off. Prune again at week 2. Just to clear for light. I think someone above mentioned bugs. If you have bugs right now get some horticulture oil blast them 2 times a day everyday for 7 days. Also if you spraying the plants spray the pot the ground the walls the entrance everything. Obviously not the light. Hope all works well for you!
I started adding some bud booster a week before flipping years ago and at the start tried side-by-side comparisons that showed me it worked better that way. Extra P is more important then K in early flower thru the stretch but after that a higher K to P ratio is best. Most P/K stuff is too high in P to use after the stretch is over and the most common reason for that 'chem' taste overfed pot can have.

Trimming out the lower stuff is a good idea tho. Most of the time I've just left it and end up with too much little popcorn to fuss with but not this time. I don't defoliate at all either. One big fan leaf can make more food for the plant than the tiny bud leaves on a dozen lower buds. Any lower buds will grow fine with shade over them but they will need light to ripen up. To that end I crop in stages by taking the big colas off and removing any upper fan leaves then letting the lower, smaller colas green up good and the trichomes get at least 50% milky before taking them off.

I just flipped my two Monkey Banana Kush plants last Friday. Yesterday I found a thrip on one of the tiny lower leaves so lollipopped both of them and took a lot of the little sucker shoots off the remaining branches. Will make it a lot easier to hunt for any remaining thrips with all that little crap gone too.

The plant on the left has been fed nothing but Greenleaf nutrients. MegaCrop 1-part for the base nutes, Big Up - 0-52-34 for it's P/K boost and have Rock Steady - 0-0-62 for a K boost later.

The one on the right is eating AN nutes. 3-part for base nutes and Big Bud - 0-15-35 with 10%S 20 aminos and citric/ascorbic acids. Had a little Bud Factor X left over so am giving it a bit of that too.

Both as close to being identical clones from the same mother as I could select from 7 and get some things in common like the medium. Both in the same mix of ProMix HP with some added biochar, lobster/crab shell and the DynoMyco for beneficial fungi and bacteria. Each will get the Carbo to support the myco and also Epsom Salts plus a vit/supplement mix of my own with Zn, Se, Fe, Vit.B1, Ascorbic acid, (Vit.C) and some citric acid. Equal amounts of all that stuff to keep the experiment on the level. So far the AN plant has done a bit better and got a bit bigger but the proof is in the final product and yield.

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RobMac315

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This is from the 30th of September. I've added a dehumidifier to the room to help bring humidity down and have also got my exhaust on for 15minutes every half hour. Temp ranges from 22-25 degrees and humidity at about 60. Wish I could bring it down another 5points. I'm still feeding every 3 days boost accelerator and canna flores. I might give another shot of PK a bit further down the track. This is the 5th week since flip so I reckon I'm at about day 20 from when stretch stopped.
 

Harvest76

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This is from the 30th of September. I've added a dehumidifier to the room to help bring humidity down and have also got my exhaust on for 15minutes every half hour. Temp ranges from 22-25 degrees and humidity at about 60. Wish I could bring it down another 5points. I'm still feeding every 3 days boost accelerator and canna flores. I might give another shot of PK a bit further down the track. This is the 5th week since flip so I reckon I'm at about day 20 from when stretch stopped.
Why dont you keep exhaust on full time?
 

Harvest76

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My setup is out in a cold shed and if I keep the exhaust running full time it brings my temp down too far.
Hmm. You might try adding a temp programmable heater (I use one that is digital and you can pick from 5° increments). That way, you can set a bottom limit to keep the temp up. The added heat will also lower your RH.
 

RobMac315

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Hmm. You might try adding a temp programmable heater (I use one that is digital and you can pick from 5° increments). That way, you can set a bottom limit to keep the temp up. The added heat will also lower your RH.
Yup I'm thinking that way for future grows. It's getting into summer here so I'm looking forward to having temp to spare and nice dry air.
 
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