how frosty can a male get?

bf80255

bf80255

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willienelson1stgrow said:
Whorled male, how do I breed this thing
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got any females in flower? let a female flower for 3-4 weeks then dust her with his pollen ( which will be fallin all over by then) and then destroy him, revegg or keep flowering to collect pollent o save, your choice and in 3-5 weeks your girl will produce seeds.
 
willienelson1stgrow

willienelson1stgrow

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So flower the female 3-4 weeks then chuck pollen? This male is fowering so fast can I save pollen for later? The females are flowering at a much slower rate than the male
 
willienelson1stgrow

willienelson1stgrow

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Can I send pollen In the mail? I want to make sure Satived gets some of this pollen. I think I read he has whorled females. Should in theory better the chances of isolating the whorled phyllotaxy in cannabis. I think it would make an excellent mother plant
 
bryleetch

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willienelson1stgrow said:
Can I send pollen In the mail? I want to make sure Satived gets some of this pollen. I think I read he has whorled females. Should in theory better the chances of isolating the whorled phyllotaxy in cannabis. I think it would make an excellent mother plant
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You can probably just jar it up (after drying it, don't jar wet pollen) put it in a box and mail it that way.

Cool idea crossing those two, that'd really be something to stabilize that trait in a strain.
 
Sativied

Sativied

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willienelson1stgrow said:
Can I send pollen In the mail? I want to make sure Satived gets some of this pollen. I think I read he has whorled females. Should in theory better the chances of isolating the whorled phyllotaxy in cannabis. I think it would make an excellent mother plant
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Hey man, I appreciate the thought already. There's a breeder called DMT (active at another large forum) who created a strain called Bruised Nuts, which produces a lot of quad and tri-cots, i.e. plants that start out with 3 or 4 seed leaves like yours, which have whorled phyllotaxy by default. One of the goals while breeding that strain was to get quads/tris that stay whorled after several nodes and branches instead of reverting back to normal. The WP mutation in my crosses works a little differently, mine all start out as regular dicots and start whorling (and have 3-4 leaves per set) around the 4-5th node or later. Once they start they tend to continue to create whorled nodes on branches (and hence clones) too. I already have crosses/generations with most plants turning out whorled (both male and female) but the bud it produces isn't anything special enough. I agree it would probably be a good mix and I do hope to cross mine with tri or quadcots some day.

As for your question, a feasible way to breed with it on a small scale is backcrossing. Pollinate a female (any strain will do really) with the male, grow out the seeds and select a few good females (preferable whorled if any) and pollinate those with the same male again (so clone it, reveg clone if you have too), and repeat that another 2 or 3 times and you'll have seeds (including females) that have over 90% of the quad males' genes.

That all said, tri and quadcots aren't necessarily inheritable mutations. It could be just a fluke that occurred when the seed was created. If after a couple of generations you do or don't get quads from the start again you'll know for sure.


Anyway, wanted to post a frosty male and noticed your post... this is (Late Night ((chocolate fondue x unknown) x cannalope haze) x P-F2 hazy line male (chunk x cannalope haze). It's basically a pollen chuck of two very sativa dom plants from two of my crosses.

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Joedank

Joedank

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colchicine treated?? or just awsome breeding??
Sativied said:
Hey man, I appreciate the thought already. There's a breeder called DMT (active at another large forum) who created a strain called Bruised Nuts, which produces a lot of quad and tri-cots, i.e. plants that start out with 3 or 4 seed leaves like yours, which have whorled phyllotaxy by default. One of the goals while breeding that strain was to get quads/tris that stay whorled after several nodes and branches instead of reverting back to normal. The WP mutation in my crosses works a little differently, mine all start out as regular dicots and start whorling (and have 3-4 leaves per set) around the 4-5th node or later. Once they start they tend to continue to create whorled nodes on branches (and hence clones) too. I already have crosses/generations with most plants turning out whorled (both male and female) but the bud it produces isn't anything special enough. I agree it would probably be a good mix and I do hope to cross mine with tri or quadcots some day.

As for your question, a feasible way to breed with it on a small scale is backcrossing. Pollinate a female (any strain will do really) with the male, grow out the seeds and select a few good females (preferable whorled if any) and pollinate those with the same male again (so clone it, reveg clone if you have too), and repeat that another 2 or 3 times and you'll have seeds (including females) that have over 90% of the quad males' genes.

That all said, tri and quadcots aren't necessarily inheritable mutations. It could be just a fluke that occurred when the seed was created. If after a couple of generations you do or don't get quads from the start again you'll know for sure.


Anyway, wanted to post a frosty male and noticed your post... this is (Late Night ((chocolate fondue x unknown) x cannalope haze) x P-F2 hazy line male (chunk x cannalope haze). It's basically a pollen chuck of two very sativa dom plants from two of my crosses.

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was this sprayed with
Sativied said:
Hey man, I appreciate the thought already. There's a breeder called DMT (active at another large forum) who created a strain called Bruised Nuts, which produces a lot of quad and tri-cots, i.e. plants that start out with 3 or 4 seed leaves like yours, which have whorled phyllotaxy by default. One of the goals while breeding that strain was to get quads/tris that stay whorled after several nodes and branches instead of reverting back to normal. The WP mutation in my crosses works a little differently, mine all start out as regular dicots and start whorling (and have 3-4 leaves per set) around the 4-5th node or later. Once they start they tend to continue to create whorled nodes on branches (and hence clones) too. I already have crosses/generations with most plants turning out whorled (both male and female) but the bud it produces isn't anything special enough. I agree it would probably be a good mix and I do hope to cross mine with tri or quadcots some day.

As for your question, a feasible way to breed with it on a small scale is backcrossing. Pollinate a female (any strain will do really) with the male, grow out the seeds and select a few good females (preferable whorled if any) and pollinate those with the same male again (so clone it, reveg clone if you have too), and repeat that another 2 or 3 times and you'll have seeds (including females) that have over 90% of the quad males' genes.

That all said, tri and quadcots aren't necessarily inheritable mutations. It could be just a fluke that occurred when the seed was created. If after a couple of generations you do or don't get quads from the start again you'll know for sure.


Anyway, wanted to post a frosty male and noticed your post... this is (Late Night ((chocolate fondue x unknown) x cannalope haze) x P-F2 hazy line male (chunk x cannalope haze). It's basically a pollen chuck of two very sativa dom plants from two of my crosses.

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greenghost420

greenghost420

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sorry for taking forever, im gonna veg these out in bigger pots for few weeks, then flower. im impressed by the sour grape ladies so id like to see what these males will do in 3 gal pots ;) bout to flower out the greatful grape guys when they hit a foot...
 
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