HOW TO KILL SPIDER MITES 100%: " Naturally - no chemicals"

Tattoodgirl

Member
Bayer's products all work well for their intensive purposes, no question about that. However, they test their chemicals on Dogs, and have reported liver and uterus failures etc within these animals as a result of the exposure to their products, including Forbid. Pretty fkd up isn't it. But it'll do a number on mites that's for sure.
Im not spraying that on my plants geez I would rather use the pepper spray if someone could let me know the details
 

xxENOCHxx

Member
Found this site and this thread recently going to try your solution :D, im 4 weeks into flower and have been fighting these little bastards for 5 weeks now, thought i had gotten rid of them using avid , 2 weeks later they showed up again so i switched to flora something and that really hit them hard ive been going through all my girls and searching constantly and after 2 weeks again of nothing they are back ! Both of the chemical agents i used to treat them i applied more then 1 time to kill the fresh hatchlings and hope to stop the process ive also soaked the entire room and still nothing has prevented them from coming back or just laying low for a few weeks and then recovering back to a full out war! gonna try the pepper thing today and I will update my results.
 

RIKNSTEIN

Well-Known Member
Cool Bwpz! Ire, Ja mon,

Yeah Brother. A great product that works can be had at nospidermites.com . However, that stuff should only be used in a last chance emegency - as it leaves a residue. I prefer no gunk on my junk... "if you feel me." :) "I Wan'na smoke da medicine, not gunk on my herb dude. I'm funny that way."

Mighty wash is not for me. One should do it themselves - rid mites. It build good character, knowledge, and fashions a tighter bond with the plant and its integral aspects.

Oh...BTW. No Caliclean does not harm plants at all!!!!!!!!!!!! Its like taking an organic bath for them - no nervous system you know. No pain, no schock, no effects what-so-ever, but the good plant karma that says in the back of one's head that if the plant could speak it might say: "Thank you, I've been cured by a loving farmer." :)

Thank you for your feedback!

My Best,

Peace,

calibuzz
No Neem oil does not leave a film..well for those that foliar spray with it, it does...but you're suppposed to "water" them with it. Neem oil works from the inside and I have no ill effects on my plants what so ever, and no difference in taste and I don't have burning skin and eyes from spraying pepper spray on my plants...but the pepper spray does work if you can stand the fumes.
Water your plants once a week for a month, and voila no bugs at all..

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RIKNSTEIN

Well-Known Member
It's a long read but check this out..

Neem Oil
Neem oil does work, but the way it works is different from other insecticides. Neem is not an instant, knock down,kill everything pesticide. Neem oil affects insects in many different,ingenious and subtle ways.
How neem oil messes with the insects’ brains and bodies
Neem oil has many complex active ingredients. Rather than being simple poisons, those ingredients are similar to the hormones that insects produce. Insects take up the neem oil ingredients just like natural hormones.
Neem enters the system and blocks the real hormones from working properly. Insects “forget” to eat, to mate, or they stop laying eggs. Some forget that they can fly. If eggs are produced they don’t hatch, or the larvae don’t moult.
Obviously insects that are too confused to eat or breed will not survive. The population eventually plummets, and they disappear. The cycle is broken.
How precisely it works is difficult for scientists to find out. There are too many different active substances in neem oil, and every insect species reacts differently to neem insecticide. Neem oil does not hurt beneficial insects. Only chewing and sucking insects are affected. It is certainly fascinating.
Like real hormones, neem oil insecticide works at very low concentrations, in the parts per million range. A little neem oil goes a long way.
But this is not something that happens over night. People use neem oil as an insecticide, and expect everything to die instantly, because that’s what they are used to from chemical poisons. When that does not happen they conclude neem insecticide does not work.
How neem oil deters chewing and sucking insects
There is a nice story that demonstrates how grasshoppers react to neem oil insecticide. It goes something like this: Someone did an experiment. It involved two jars, two leaves, and two grasshoppers. One leaf was sprayed with a chemical insecticide, and one with neem oil. The two grasshoppers were put in the two jars, with one leaf each.
The first grasshopper ate the leaf and died almost instantly. The grasshopper with the neem oil covered leaf did not touch the leaf and lived. At least for a few days. Eventually it starved to death.
Neem stops insects from eating the plants.
Part of this action is due to to the hormone like action of neem oil that I explained above. Insects “forget” to eat after they’ve been in contact with even traces of neem oil.
But it is also the presence, the mere hint of a smell of neem oil, that seems to be enough to keep leaf eating insects away. Neem oil can be very powerful as an anti-feedant and insect repellent.
This anti-feedant property is one of the most often advertised and lauded properties of neem oil insecticide. However, the hormonal effects I described above are even stronger.
Neem oil as an insect deterrent works well against grasshoppers and leafhoppers, but all other insect pests are controlled mostly through the hormone action.
The subtlety of the hormonal effects,and the fact that they may take days or weeks to manifest, makes people overlook them. Ill informed gardeners seek instant gratification, i.e. lots ofdead insects immediately, rather than a balanced environment in the long run.
It’s a shame, because the hormonal effect is where the real power of neem oil lies. It’s the key to neem oil being an effective insecticide and good for the environment at the same time. It’s also important to understand this effect to use neem oil insecticide correctly.
Neem oil works from inside the plant
Many insecticides break down quickly.They wash away with rain, or when irrigating, or the sunlight destroys them. You either have to spray all the time, or you have to spray something that’s so stable that it stays around forever. That means the chemical builds up everywhere and eventually poisons everything, including you.
Neem oil breaks down very quickly, too. It is especially susceptible to UV light. But neem oil is also a system icinsecticide. That means you can pour it on the soil (not pure neem oil ofcourse, you use a dilution or extract) and the plants absorb it. They take it up into their tissue, and it works from the inside. A leaf hopper may take acouple of bites, but that’s it.
However, this does not work for all insect species. The neem ingredients accumulate in the tissues deeper inside the plant. The phloem, the outermost layer, contains hardly any. A tiny aphid feeds from the phloem, it can not penetrate deep enough to get a dose of neem.But any leaf hoppers, grass hoppers or similar chomping insects will be incapacitated quickly.
People eat neem leaves to cleanse the blood, stimulate the liver, and boost the immune system. So we certainly don’t need to worry about a bit of neem inside our lettuce leaves. To me this is a much more attractive option than having poisonous foulicides build up in my garden.
Neem oil suffocates insects
Many gardeners use white oil (plain mineral oil) or even olive oil to combat soft bodied insects like aphids,thrips or whitefly. The oil coats the bugs and they suffocate. Neem oil insecticide does that as well. But it’s more like a little bonus on top of everything else it does.
It can be a hazard, though. Of course there is no difference between suffocating good or bad bugs. Oil suffocates anything. So this aspect can harm beneficial insects!
Neem oil and beneficial insects
Neem is non toxic for beneficial insects. The main reason is that insects need to ingest the neem oil to be affected, and beneficial insects don’t eat your plants. But you can still kill beneficial insects if you smother them with neem oil, so please be careful.
Beneficial insects are most active during the day. The best time to spray neem insecticide is very early in the morning, so the spray can dry before the good insects become active. Also agood time is the late afternoon or evening. Once the spray has dried it does not harm your bees, ladybugs, lacewings, predatory mites and wasps etc.
 

Baxters

Well-Known Member
A Hotbox sulfur burner worked for me, just run it when lights are off for 12 hours each night until they are gone; as long as your temps are lower than 90°F and make sure it's regularly maintained, well worth the investment.

I actually leave mine on, even though they are gone, because it also prevents molds from forming.
 

ImDankest

Member
Got spidermites and going to try this method tomorrow, sounds promising. Shall i take my plant outside to spray it? saves me having to work in a small room. Or will this be worse as the plant may pick up other bugs and maybe more spidermites from being outside? Going to completely sterilize and spray my grow room with this stuff. Hopefuly this is the last i'll see of these bastards. And does anyone know where to buy habenero peppers in the UK? Do they sell them in Tesco and just ordinary supermarkets? Thanks
 

Tattoodgirl

Member
It's a long read but check this out..

Neem Oil
Neem oil does work, but the way it works is different from other insecticides. Neem is not an instant, knock down,kill everything pesticide. Neem oil affects insects in many different,ingenious and subtle ways.
How neem oil messes with the insects’ brains and bodies
Neem oil has many complex active ingredients. Rather than being simple poisons, those ingredients are similar to the hormones that insects produce. Insects take up the neem oil ingredients just like natural hormones.
Neem enters the system and blocks the real hormones from working properly. Insects “forget” to eat, to mate, or they stop laying eggs. Some forget that they can fly. If eggs are produced they don’t hatch, or the larvae don’t moult.
Obviously insects that are too confused to eat or breed will not survive. The population eventually plummets, and they disappear. The cycle is broken.
How precisely it works is difficult for scientists to find out. There are too many different active substances in neem oil, and every insect species reacts differently to neem insecticide. Neem oil does not hurt beneficial insects. Only chewing and sucking insects are affected. It is certainly fascinating.
Like real hormones, neem oil insecticide works at very low concentrations, in the parts per million range. A little neem oil goes a long way.
But this is not something that happens over night. People use neem oil as an insecticide, and expect everything to die instantly, because that’s what they are used to from chemical poisons. When that does not happen they conclude neem insecticide does not work.
How neem oil deters chewing and sucking insects
There is a nice story that demonstrates how grasshoppers react to neem oil insecticide. It goes something like this: Someone did an experiment. It involved two jars, two leaves, and two grasshoppers. One leaf was sprayed with a chemical insecticide, and one with neem oil. The two grasshoppers were put in the two jars, with one leaf each.
The first grasshopper ate the leaf and died almost instantly. The grasshopper with the neem oil covered leaf did not touch the leaf and lived. At least for a few days. Eventually it starved to death.
Neem stops insects from eating the plants.
Part of this action is due to to the hormone like action of neem oil that I explained above. Insects “forget” to eat after they’ve been in contact with even traces of neem oil.
But it is also the presence, the mere hint of a smell of neem oil, that seems to be enough to keep leaf eating insects away. Neem oil can be very powerful as an anti-feedant and insect repellent.
This anti-feedant property is one of the most often advertised and lauded properties of neem oil insecticide. However, the hormonal effects I described above are even stronger.
Neem oil as an insect deterrent works well against grasshoppers and leafhoppers, but all other insect pests are controlled mostly through the hormone action.
The subtlety of the hormonal effects,and the fact that they may take days or weeks to manifest, makes people overlook them. Ill informed gardeners seek instant gratification, i.e. lots ofdead insects immediately, rather than a balanced environment in the long run.
It’s a shame, because the hormonal effect is where the real power of neem oil lies. It’s the key to neem oil being an effective insecticide and good for the environment at the same time. It’s also important to understand this effect to use neem oil insecticide correctly.
Neem oil works from inside the plant
Many insecticides break down quickly.They wash away with rain, or when irrigating, or the sunlight destroys them. You either have to spray all the time, or you have to spray something that’s so stable that it stays around forever. That means the chemical builds up everywhere and eventually poisons everything, including you.
Neem oil breaks down very quickly, too. It is especially susceptible to UV light. But neem oil is also a system icinsecticide. That means you can pour it on the soil (not pure neem oil ofcourse, you use a dilution or extract) and the plants absorb it. They take it up into their tissue, and it works from the inside. A leaf hopper may take acouple of bites, but that’s it.
However, this does not work for all insect species. The neem ingredients accumulate in the tissues deeper inside the plant. The phloem, the outermost layer, contains hardly any. A tiny aphid feeds from the phloem, it can not penetrate deep enough to get a dose of neem.But any leaf hoppers, grass hoppers or similar chomping insects will be incapacitated quickly.
People eat neem leaves to cleanse the blood, stimulate the liver, and boost the immune system. So we certainly don’t need to worry about a bit of neem inside our lettuce leaves. To me this is a much more attractive option than having poisonous foulicides build up in my garden.
Neem oil suffocates insects
Many gardeners use white oil (plain mineral oil) or even olive oil to combat soft bodied insects like aphids,thrips or whitefly. The oil coats the bugs and they suffocate. Neem oil insecticide does that as well. But it’s more like a little bonus on top of everything else it does.
It can be a hazard, though. Of course there is no difference between suffocating good or bad bugs. Oil suffocates anything. So this aspect can harm beneficial insects!
Neem oil and beneficial insects
Neem is non toxic for beneficial insects. The main reason is that insects need to ingest the neem oil to be affected, and beneficial insects don’t eat your plants. But you can still kill beneficial insects if you smother them with neem oil, so please be careful.
Beneficial insects are most active during the day. The best time to spray neem insecticide is very early in the morning, so the spray can dry before the good insects become active. Also agood time is the late afternoon or evening. Once the spray has dried it does not harm your bees, ladybugs, lacewings, predatory mites and wasps etc.
can i add the neem to a dwc bucket? How about neem in and pepper spray to start control of the population on the outside?
 

Scroga

Well-Known Member
Yes I also would like to know if it can be used systemically in dwc... And if so at what ratio? Isn't cold pressed meant to be better? Thanks for contributing to the war effort!!!
 

Sunbiz1

Well-Known Member
I'd substitute organic dish soap for the neem if possible. I have used both and the soap works instantly, while neem can take weeks.
 

mehrific

Well-Known Member
Einstein Oil. Ive had a war some time ago. I was about to give up on my old mother. Once i saw the tops wrapped in web i knew it was too late. Infestation has gotten out of hand. Then came along a hydro store rep and said he has never failed with Einstein Oil. Told me to follow the mixture on bottle and add several drops of organic dish soap. Followed his advise and 1 week later they were all gone. That mother stayed alive another year or so. No chemicals, no fuss. Sure, I massacred plenty with the old thumb and pointer finger but they had no chance once Einstein came in the picture. Worked for me, Im sure it will work for you. Those little bastards.
 

mehrific

Well-Known Member
Cool. How did Dyna gro's neem oil work out for you? Was it just as effective? If it is, Ill go for that next time around. Money seems to be tight nowadays. Still have a long way till my little bottle is done but just in case I would like to know my options.
 

Tattoodgirl

Member
I'd substitute organic dish soap for the neem if possible. I have used both and the soap works instantly, while neem can take weeks.
Cant add dish soap to dwc i like bubble baths but i don't think my girls would :-) never heard of Einstein oil. Will have to look it up
 

hexthat

Well-Known Member
Cool. How did Dyna gro's neem oil work out for you? Was it just as effective? If it is, Ill go for that next time around. Money seems to be tight nowadays. Still have a long way till my little bottle is done but just in case I would like to know my options.
hmm i think its about the same but i havent got einstein in a while so i couldnt bet money on that
 
I'm 10 DAYS away from harvest and noticed SPIDER MITE webs on the tops of two of my plants. I have a total of 72... It seems pretty bad tho. I can see them crawling all over the tops with need of a microscope. What would you recommend I do?? Please help?!
 

Frosty125

Member
Wat the hell do u think u should do make some caliclean and get to work cuz u dont have much time.

use the spray and kill as much as u can i would push back harvesting for a few extra days if you need to so u can spray more.

Only thing i would suggest is after the last time u spray with caliclean before harvesting, i would spray a few times with just plain water to wash them off and then trim and hang them.

Good luck, you're gonna need it
 

awesomegrow420

Active Member
ive been using Einstein oil on my outdoor plants but that shit is not working at all and my plants are getting ugly. trying this hot pepper extract today. hope it works out for the better.
 

awesomegrow420

Active Member
so fucking awesome man... i did this shit to my plants and now my 2 lowryders that were like 2 weeks away from getting harvested are completely fucked up. they are all brown and look dried out... really bad idea dude thanks for your bullshit post.. my one regular sour diesel plant that's still in veg stage is okay but i doubt it did anything to change it.. oh well what can i do? this is what you have to do to learn and do better. peace!
 
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