Hows my seedling? (First plant)

bbyb420

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When would I start feeding my plant, and when the ph stuff do I use tap water?
Start feeding your plant 1/4 strength nutrients once you notice its leaves turning a lighter shade of green. Never use tap water for feeding your plants, if you have to let it sit out for a couple of days so that any harmful substances such as chlorine will evaporate.
 

Blazer foo

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Bad move... You should really go do some more research on organic nutrients and their requirements.... And I'm not saying that to be a douche, just want to be helpful... Because you are using a water soluble organic nutrient you need to adjust both prior and following your mix. Trust me, you will thank me in the long run. Besides, General Organics lineup claims to be pH balanced if using the entire lineup as directed in their feeding charts.
Ok, so Im gonna order a ph pen, ph up and ph down bottles, and some food. The new light is gonna have to wait till I get some more money. So you think reverse osmosis water with a regulated ph level? How would I balance the water with the ph up and down stuff what are the measurements like. Also for food im thinking biothrive since the guy in the forum said he uses and it's cheap. Unless theres a better one for cheaper? What are some other options for water beside revers osmosis or distilled?
 

wwrockyou

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How would i measure the ph in the water? And also how to get a consistent ph level? I've just been using bottled water. Im planning on buying some distilled water and using that. Would that be fine? What kind of water would you guys use?
dude you really need to do some reading on this subject, you will learn to ask educated questions.
 

sno capz

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When would I start feeding my plant, and when the ph stuff do I use tap water?
Everytime you feed or water you should check to be sure your water is pH balanced. If its below 5.5 or above 6.5 make the necessary adjustments with the pH up or pH down
 

sno capz

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When would I start feeding my plant, and when the ph stuff do I use tap water?
I'd wait at least two weeks to feed with nutrients... Unless your soil already has nutrients in it. Either that or some people like to wait til a few nodes develop. Just make sure you check to see if your soil has any pre-loaded nutrients first.
 

sno capz

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Ok, so Im gonna order a ph pen, ph up and ph down bottles, and some food. The new light is gonna have to wait till I get some more money. So you think reverse osmosis water with a regulated ph level? How would I balance the water with the ph up and down stuff what are the measurements like. Also for food im thinking biothrive since the guy in the forum said he uses and it's cheap. Unless theres a better one for cheaper? What are some other options for water beside revers osmosis or distilled?
General Organics is a good lineup... Yes the bottles are fairly inexpensive or you can purchase a General Organics GO box for around $50-$55. It has everything needed for at least 1 grow. The problem with nutrients is that usually other supplements are required to successfully use the product. I bought each bottle separately by the quart and it costs me about $20 per bottle and there are a total of 8 nutrients and supplements...

BioThrive Grow - veg nutrient
BioThrive Bloom - flower nutrient
CalMag - calcium magnesium supplement
BioRoot - root system stimulant
BioWeed - extracted sea kelp
BioBud - flower stimulant
BioMarine - cold processed squid
Diamond Black - humic acid

If going organic then I suggest a worm tea. It's a natural enzyme. The fungi and bacteria present in worm tea is good because it helps to break down the organic matter into more usable food for the plant.
 

sno capz

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Also... If using organic water soluble nutrients, pH must be check and adjusted both before and after mixing your nutrient solution with water.

If using a chemical nutrient line then you will only need to check and adjust the pH after mixing your solution with water.
 

sno capz

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When would I start feeding my plant, and when the ph stuff do I use tap water?
Wait at least two weeks or wait until a few nodes or branches of leaves are there. If your leaves begin to turn yellow before that... Then mix a 1/4 strength nutrient solution with water. Never use nutrients at full strength as it will cause toxicity in your plants. Definitely look into deficiencies and toxicity. It will save you headaches later on down the road. Learn how to identified problems and learn what steps should be taken to prevent any problems.
 

sno capz

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20150616_083100.jpg This is week 4 of my cherry og from emerald triangle... This is using all nutrients except for BioThrive Bloom and BioBud, obviously because I haven't switched over to my flower room yet...
 

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JellyJaguar

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Not sure if anyone mentioned but don't use any slow release ferts like miracle grow. In fact just avoid miracle grow all together I really like fox farms personally. And yeah ph is crucial and you can get a kit for like $20 maybe less that comes with ph+/- and a little vial for testing it. I think a pen would be ideal but tbh the regular kit works for me.
 

sno capz

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Not sure if anyone mentioned but don't use any slow release ferts like miracle grow. In fact just avoid miracle grow all together I really like fox farms personally. And yeah ph is crucial and you can get a kit for like $20 maybe less that comes with ph+/- and a little vial for testing it. I think a pen would be ideal but tbh the regular kit works for me.
Pens are more accurate and you only have to calibrate and replace the batteries very few times. The test kits with the vial are just as good but you may find yourself constantly buying testing solution and even though the test solution isn't expensive it will still add up over time if testing and balancing is done as regularly as it should be. Not to mention the ease of use... I recommend a pen
 

sno capz

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Not sure if anyone mentioned but don't use any slow release ferts like miracle grow. In fact just avoid miracle grow all together I really like fox farms personally. And yeah ph is crucial and you can get a kit for like $20 maybe less that comes with ph+/- and a little vial for testing it. I think a pen would be ideal but tbh the regular kit works for me.
And as far as soil goes... I would never recommend a box store soil or even dirt from your property. Those soils are either ideal for that oak tree growing in your backyard or for tomatoes and actual flowers that you plant.... It will save time, effort, headaches and money if you use a soil that is made specifically for cannabis... Such as fox farm ocean forest... If starting a seedling in soil then I'd recommend a seed starter soil mix with very little or no nutrients that are pre-loaded
 

sno capz

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Looks really healthy :)
Thank you... Started out under a T5 HO for two weeks in just rockwool and hydroton.. Fed distilled water to germ and break ground. Then fed 5.8 RO water only for the first two weeks then switched to RO water at 5.6 with 1/4 strength feeding schedule according to General Hydroponics General Organics feeding chart. I'm at week 4 and currently at 3/4 strength nutrient solution and my girl sits in hydroton mixed with mother earth coco and is sun bathing under my SunSystem 250/400w self ballasted MH/HPS conversion hood with a 10,000k UltraSun Hyper Blue 400w metal halide bulb. Fans and ac for keeping temps at 80f

I just bought a 400w Eye Hortilux Super HPS bulb for flower. It's supposed to be better than a regular HPS bulb. We'll see... I have a regular 400w HPS setup as well so once I root a couple clones I might do a side by side comparison and note the differences in growth and overall yield.

I also have 7 Lemon Skunk x NYC diesel that just broke ground so I'm just waiting for them to grow bigger so I can get em in my coco mix
 

JellyJaguar

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Pens are more accurate and you only have to calibrate and replace the batteries very few times. The test kits with the vial are just as good but you may find yourself constantly buying testing solution and even though the test solution isn't expensive it will still add up over time if testing and balancing is done as regularly as it should be. Not to mention the ease of use... I recommend a pen
I agree I just got the impression he might be on a budget for me the solution has worked and I got a really large amount of it but yeah you got a point.
 

sno capz

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I bought the SunSystem self ballasted conversion MH/HPS hood that was used... Literally for 1 week. Person couldn't control temps so they traded it in towards a different setup. It sat in the hydro shops shelf for a week and I snagged that, plus the UltraSun 400w Blue Enhanced Metal Halide bulb and the 400w Eye Hortilux Super HPS bulb all for $230.00 no tax out the door! Let's do the math to see what kind of deal I walked away with...

SunSystem self ballasted conversion hood = $239.99
UltraSun 400w Blue Enhanced MH bulb = $37.95
Eye Hortilux 400w Super HPS bulb = $94.95

Shouldve cost me = $396.57
Amount I paid = $230.00
Amount I saved = $166.57

Yea I basically stole that shit! That's like buying the hood full price and getting two bulbs for free!
 

sno capz

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When being a grower the future of what's needed should be considered rather than the "right now".... Just keep in mind you get what you pay for especially when it comes to this hobby!
 

Blazer foo

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dude you really need to do some reading on this subject, you will learn to ask educated questions.
I'll definitely read up on the stuff but I am a beginner so as long as you guys are here I might as well ask away. I plan on reading up on everything but it wont hurt to ask questions.
 

JellyJaguar

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I'll definitely read up on the stuff but I am a beginner so as long as you guys are here I might as well ask away. I plan on reading up on everything but it wont hurt to ask questions.
Sure man I can help as much as I can but like yourself I'm at the start of my journey.
 

Blazer foo

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When being a grower the future of what's needed should be considered rather than the "right now".... Just keep in mind you get what you pay for especially when it comes to this hobby!
Ok so, what are the prioriites for the seedling stage. Ill get some grow lights and nutrients. But for now what should I really be getting my hands on?
 
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